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eccoton
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I have played all the big guns in the MMORPG world. Read the game list on this site and probably 90% of them I have tried. Here are a few big ones I have put a lot of time in. WoW, EQ2, Ryzom, Guild Wars, CoH/CoV, FFXI, Pre-NGE SWG (my favorite mmo to date) I enjoyed them all and some more then others.
Currently I am playing EQ2 and returned to WoW I also have been in LOTRO bets and did a pre-order. After a year away from WoW I returned with Burning Crusade. I am having an ok time. I guess I am having an ok time in EQ2 and LOTRO as well. However I am a bit bored. I play and it is better then sitting around watching tv when I am not involved in RL stuff but I realized I am bored a lot in MMORPG lately. The games have not changed and in many cases have gotten better but I am still bored a lot. Don't tell me to play single player rpgs like Oblivion cause I do but like many once you get into the mmo world single player games feel flat.
I belong to great guilds and have great in game friends but I am still bored. I get the games expansions and try the latest game out but I am still bored. I think you get my point I am bored. The GRIND, damn that is boring. Anyone else in the same boat?
I have thought about what I find interesting in the games I have liked. First "Sandbox" pre-nge SWG was a great sandbox game. Second exploring. EQ2, WoW, SWG offered great exploring, Third Housing and collectable SWG had great housing. EQ2 has pretty good housing. WoW has none but they have fun pet collectables. Fourth interesting Quest lore LOTRO shines here one mmorpg I actually read all the quests and lore. Fourth great graphics The main games I mentioned all have strong points in this area. Fifth great combat this varies from game to game. I actually like the combat system of DDO.
I As I read the forums on this site I see many others feel the same way. Many longtime MMORPG players still love the genre but are bored. think you see where this is heading. Why can't a developer take the best of these things and blend them into a fun none grinding sandbox game? Sorry but VAnguard is not this dream game. I had hoped it would be but it is simply not. I see some cool games on the horizon but none that take the best others have to offer and blend them together. Most of us longtime MMORPG players are still searching for the "Sanbox" we experienced in pre-nge SWG with more. I watch closely to the games emerging from the horizon and do not see any that offer the much loved "Sandbox" I am sure I will be playing a few of the new games coming out this year but alas I am prepared to be a bit bored. Anyone see anything on the horizon I may have missed or are we heading into an era of mmos (seeking the numbers of WoW instead of innovative game play) that maybe fun for awhile but ultimately will leave us a bit bored? I hope there are a few developers out there that see the light. I guarantee the one that does will crush the numbers WoW has. I do not think I am the only one waiting but believe me I am not holding my breath.
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I'm not holding my breath either.
I liken the situation to the whole gas powered cars fiasco.
With cars, oil tycoons make tons of money as long as we burn up the gas. It's gotten so bad that technology that moves past that gets bought out and shelved. Take for instance the electric cars that were totally run on electricity. They were all recalled and smashed up in a junk yard. There's a really good documentary about it. I can't remeber the name of it off hand.
Anyway, with video games grinding is our gas, greedy companies are our oil tycoons.
Companies and developers continue to exploit the genre by developing MMOs desinged with slow progression in mind, exp debt and set backs, timesinks, and money sinks. This is all designed for one thing... to keep you playing and subscribing for as long as they can keep you.
The genre has stopped being about fun, imagination, socialization, and comeradarie.
The genre is starting to be about greed, competition, and elitist mentalities.
I think this is a prime example of how capitalism is crushing the life and spirit out of all genres of art and entertainment.
It's happened with music, movies, books, and TV. Now it's happening to video games.
The biggest problem is that things don't go away. They don't get better.
The good stuff starts coming less often. Off the wall original next best things come fewer and farther between each other, while carbon copies of the thing that sold best last year, month or week, get reborn over and over again with slight variations.
The biggest kick in the nuts is that we let it happen. As long as we support this kind of crap by paying money for unfinished, uninspired, unoriginal, watered-down crap... the industry will keep flushing it out.
We aren't powerless. Power is the ability to act. It can only be taken. The only way to take that power is to vote with your wallet.
Ditto. The problem is that the mmorpg genre is driven by the "I've got better sh*t than you" mentality sort of like modern society. Its all about the stuff. PnP gaming was so much fun (at least for me & my friends) because it was about the characters and the stories they created. No program will ever have the flexibility and creativity of the human imagination.
I will never be bored enough to even try a game enforcing raiding, never again!
I think sitting, doing nothing, with a blank look in the eyes, is much better than raiding, despite that I am "hyper-active" to some extand (not that much, I can play computer games for days, but I must do something hehe)! 
Atm, I am busy hoarding shos in CoV (long live the RSF), and the inventions are going to keep me busy for a while hopefully!
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Thanks.
I do too, and I'm really open to suggestion.
I played PnP games as a kid AND as an adult, and it really sucks to see this happening to MMORPGs. I want nothing more than to see the genre flourish instead of stagnate like it is doing currently.
But what else can we do, but get people to band together to not give in and buy a half-assed rehash of some other game?
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
We are bored because MMO developers won't take the risk to make a truly inovative game. You can't really blame them tho, risking on game business isn't a clever thing to do really.
I guess we'll have to just wait, because after all, even without the risks, some games still inovate in some way or other. It just takes a while, I guess.
Ultima Online 98~04
Dark Age of Camelot 03~07
Final Fantasy XI 04~06
Guild Wars 05~08
World of Warcraft 04~05
Unsuccessful Tries: DFO/EQ2/DRaja/Rag/Req/RYL/9D/Cabal/KO/PSU/RF/GE/TO/TR/DDO/EVE/LoTRO/L2/RZ/SWG/VG
When I get tired of MMO's I simply ... GASP!!!!!
I go and work on my golf game. Ride on my mountain bike is wonderful. Go to a sports bar and shoot the breeze with some ol' buddies of mine. Play some billiards. Plan and go on a hiking vacation, taking my digital camera. Go and visit with my folks, they've been married since 1948...quite an achievement in today's world!
As you can see, when and if I get "bored" I do have some other things I can do, but, and I mean watch out...LOL...I have to go outside of my house and actually .. uhm... t u r n / o f f / m y / c o m p u t e r !!!!!!!!
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
John Lennon
I quit WoW in July, I have not played an MMO since then, well I played the trial of EVE and WW2OL, but couldnt get into the, WW2OL was great but was missing some intensity, and EVE was good, btu the skill system wasnt for me.
I will get back into the genre in June, with PotBS, no epic uber items that we have to grind, good looking pvp conquest system, no orcs and wizards either!
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Did take me a while to get back into the genre though, think you might just need a break, otherwise thats my try out recommendation.
Anyway, for any of those in this situation, take this advice: change things around for a while. The MMO of your choice will most likely be around when you're ready to go back.
I am professional artist , working in a multiuser internet buisness. And every day i feel this on my skin.
The society has shot itself in the leg.
We let masses decide. And while it sounds good and democratic - eventually it turns everything into warm puddle of mud
Every thing i create is emidiately put on internet. And in 1 or 2 hours the pupularity is mesured and it is promptly removed if not popular enough. What i say to my bosses ... "GIVE IT A CHANCE"
The good things take time to settle down with the crowd, but after people figure it out, they love it.
Same thing in games. Look at SWG , when it came out people hated it. It was completely diferent. So SOE promptly removed it , although it was one of most original unique MMOs. And they replaced it with quick preety WoW like fix ...
It reminds me of Douglas Adams description of movie of the future.
"20 minutes long explosion, followed by 150 random car crashes, and 15 minutes of uncensored sex"
If its up to users to decide , the films will actually be like that
"Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas
So true!I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
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