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What the hell is up with the Archlord bashing!

tjparkinstjparkins Member Posts: 6
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It makes me really angry and sad to see people making negative remarks about this game. If you dont like the game, what are you doing on the forums in the first place. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, but dont force yours on someone else and make them believe that it is fact.



The bad publicity is really hurting the game by discouraging potential players, and that in turn hurts the existing players, because the community is smaller and the developer doesnt make enough money to maintain the game.



Another thing, dont compare it with other games like L2 or WoW, simply because its NOT L2 or WoW, its Archlord. Just because YOU dont like it doesnt mean its not good. I for one dont like WoW, but i dont go posting about how much it sucks on every forum i can find. I'm not saying that WoW is a bad game, on the contrary, its just not my cup of tea. What kind of place would the world be if everyone had the same tastes.



My advice to anyone who wants to try Archlord (or any other game for that matter), go for it. Don't listen to the negative comments and bad reviews. Try it and make up your own mind, unless you like having other people think for you...
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  • Mick33Mick33 Member Posts: 6

    Well said 'tjparkins'! Could'nt agree with you more.

    I personally think Archlord is the best F2P game out there, i dont understand all the negativity thrown at it.

    I urge people to give it a go!!......It's actually very good!

  • vingvegavingvega Member Posts: 577
    I installed it yesterday and was actually impressed.  Besides not having a big character customization, the game is ok in my book.  I played a hunter last night for a couple hours and was having a blast.  Yeah it's not perfect or top of the line, but it is an enjoyable game.
  • TyrranosaurTyrranosaur Member UncommonPosts: 284
    I definitely have gotten my money's worth out of Archlord. The graphics are nice, the point-to-move component is not nearly as confusing as it seems (just hold down the W key and steer with the mouse. Easy), and the game just socks you with a ton of quests. The mobs end to linger around a lot.....but that might just be the early area I'm in, I don't now.....but it's pretty fun. If you think of this game as an evolution from the Diablo/Sacred model (with limited specific character types) then it's really pretty cool. If you're busy pining for WoW.....well then grab a credit card and go play!

    Current MMOs: Rift, GW2, Defiance
    Blog: http://realmsofchirak.blogspot.com (old school tabletop gaming and more)

  • geemanjrgeemanjr Member Posts: 94
    yeah im hoping to get this game really soon with all the good things ive heard but what are the system reqs.

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  • dreamer05dreamer05 Member UncommonPosts: 679
    People post their opinions, good or bad, so that people can see these and gather their own opinion before spending any money on a game. I look to this web site before I buy any MMO and its saved me a lot of money I'm sure.  I personally didn't like Archlord, I found it repetetive, bland, and just like every other Korean MMO. Controls were terrible and you have very little customization when you create your character and afterwards.  That is my opinion.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    I think what the op meant are people who continue to force their negative opinions on other. People like Zigmund and Vanguarde have stopped playing the game months ago (if they even played it at all), yet they still slam the game here whenever they get the chance for months now.
  • VivavonVivavon Member Posts: 7

    Arhh!!

    Thank you!!

    You simply can NOT compare FREE games to COSTLY games!!

    There is a REASON that they're free!!

    The games that cost money need TONS more technology for graphics and such!!

    Thanks!

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  • joeybootsjoeyboots Member UncommonPosts: 628

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again, It's all a matter of taste. Yes, it is true that Archlord pretty much bombed in the states, but it is quite succesful in Korea and China. You see, there are similarities between western and korean-styled mmos like quests, leveling, a persistent world, etc. But, the design philosphy behind the two types is very different. For example, Most US players basically like to be guided through their content, and despise grind in favor of roleplaying/questing. Most Americans also like their pvp and pve seperated thank you very much. In Korea/China most players enjoy working hard/grinding for hours on end for their spoils, instead of it being handed to them cause they killed 10 womprats for Old Man Ju-Ju or whatever. Korean players also enjoy ruthless no-holds-barred pvp, where you're always in danger because you can be attacked at any time, if not in a town. It's a difference of culture, and that ultimately dictates what is considered fun. I mean who knows, You don't think its fun to set your feet on fire, but somebody else might. The thing is, is that Korean-styled MMOs like this one are intended originally for a Korean audience, and when shipped overseas, are usually ill-recieved because of the majority of American players finding the elements that thrilled and kept Korean players glued to their computers, tedious and punishing. It's culture shock, simple as that.  I am an American-born citizen who actually enjoys this style of game. I used to play Silkroad and also played Lineage 2 back in the day. You have to work for every little thing in these games, western games are much more lenient and and risk-free by comparison. It's all a matter of taste.

    P.s. Gameloading is my hero. With Logic we shall prevail angainst the army of trolls!

  • ManJunkManJunk Member Posts: 273
    Originally posted by joeyboots


    I've said it before, and I'll say it again, It's all a matter of taste. Yes, it is true that Archlord pretty much bombed in the states, but it is quite succesful in Korea and China. You see, there are similarities between western and korean-styled mmos like quests, leveling, a persistent world, etc. But, the design philosphy behind the two types is very different. For example, Most US players basically like to be guided through their content, and despise grind in favor of roleplaying/questing. Most Americans also like their pvp and pve seperated thank you very much. In Korea/China most players enjoy working hard/grinding for hours on end for their spoils, instead of it being handed to them cause they killed 10 womprats for Old Man Ju-Ju or whatever. Korean players also enjoy ruthless no-holds-barred pvp, where you're always in danger because you can be attacked at any time, if not in a town. It's a difference of culture, and that ultimately dictates what is considered fun. I mean who knows, You don't think its fun to set your feet on fire, but somebody else might. The thing is, is that Korean-styled MMOs like this one are intended originally for a Korean audience, and when shipped overseas, are usually ill-recieved because of the majority of American players finding the elements that thrilled and kept Korean players glued to their computers, tedious and punishing. It's culture shock, simple as that.  I am an American-born citizen who actually enjoys this style of game. I used to play Silkroad and also played Lineage 2 back in the day. You have to work for every little thing in these games, western games are much more lenient and and risk-free by comparison. It's all a matter of taste.
    P.s. Gameloading is my hero. With Logic we shall prevail angainst the army of trolls!
    I tried the game myself but didn't like it because of the clunky/buggy UI, character movement, lack of customization, and repetitive gameplay.  I'll grind my butt off if I feel like it's worth my time but this game sadfully had no lasting appeal for me.  There are some other issues that are just overlooked.... like translation.
  • MidavegMidaveg Member Posts: 296

    Originally posted by Vivavon
    Arhh!!
    Thank you!!
    You simply can NOT compare FREE games to COSTLY games!!
    There is a REASON that they're free!!
    The games that cost money need TONS more technology for graphics and such!!
    Thanks!

    You pay $30 for archlord and you said the game is free? I like how Archlord goes but its not worth even by paying the access key just to play the game. :)

    All canceled. Waiting on Warhammer Online : Age of Reckoning.

  • chiffingtonchiffington Member Posts: 29

    Well, really, the decision of whether a game is good or bad is based on opinion.  Good and bad are always a matter of perspective.

    I tried Archlord with a mind to liking it because of what I'd read.  What happened when I loaded it up was I was presented with an extremely clunky and un-customisable game that had absolutely no appeal after the installation program, which had very nice music.

    I was playing the game with a very very good system (all perfectly smooth at maximum settings) but I really thought the game was terrible after a very short time.  I therefore think the game is bad, very bad.  You're entitled to say you think it is good, but at the end of the day I will say what I please.

     

     

  • flakesflakes Member Posts: 575
    Well to put it simple FOR ME archlord was the worst mmorpg i have played and i have played a LOT of mmorpgs.But it is a fact that some people like it and i can not judge if someone who asks about the game will like it or not.When people like me say thye don't like the game i think that's fine....when people keep incisting others not to play then i think you are approaching it the wrong way.People have their own taste and can make up their own mind.
  • iddmitriiddmitri Member UncommonPosts: 671

    I don't like it and I don't bash anyone. Graphics sucks and the game reminds me of some anime. :)

  • joeybootsjoeyboots Member UncommonPosts: 628
    Originally posted by flakes

    Well to put it simple FOR ME archlord was the worst mmorpg i have played and i have played a LOT of mmorpgs.But it is a fact that some people like it and i can not judge if someone who asks about the game will like it or not.When people like me say thye don't like the game i think that's fine....when people keep incisting others not to play then i think you are approaching it the wrong way.People have their own taste and can make up their own mind.
    I applaud you for this post my friend. Even though it's not to your personal taste, you are willing to admit that others might enjoy it. You are just stating your opinion and in turn not flaming others for theirs. I also agree that telling others not to play because you didn't enjoy it is wrong, and also an attempt to force a viewpoint. And yes, it really does come down to a matter of taste. Bravo fellow poster, bravo.
  • joeybootsjoeyboots Member UncommonPosts: 628
    Originally posted by chiffington
    I therefore think the game is bad, very bad.  You're entitled to say you think it is good, but at the end of the day I will say what I please.
     
     
    Umm........DUH.
  • muzzah2004muzzah2004 Member Posts: 64
    I was glad I got in beta, to find out this game was nothing I thought it would be.  Said there was PVP and quests ect.  Didnt say all the quests were poorly translated and you use the same attacks all thru your leveling.  Then came the high level gankers, I'd rather play a browser game than pay to play a grind game
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by muzzah2004

    I was glad I got in beta, to find out this game was nothing I thought it would be.  Said there was PVP and quests ect.  Didnt say all the quests were poorly translated and you use the same attacks all thru your leveling.  Then came the high level gankers, I'd rather play a browser game than pay to play a grind game
    There is PVP, the quest translation has been fixed, and you don't use the same skills over and over again at all. in fact, you don't even use the same set of skills through out the entire game. there aren't a lot of high level gankers anymore, because this is retail, not beta.



    Thank you for proving my point  that most people bashing the game didn't even play it for a good amount of game.



    p.s., every mmorpg is a grind, get used to it.
  • yanexyanex Member Posts: 24

    so i hear alot of that is is a bad game but much people say that is a good game.

    i just orderd it at bol.com so i have to wait a wile. but i think its a realy good game, whit a realy origional kind of story.

    lol being king for 1 mounth sounds verry cool. and there are some super cool armos.

    Human: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-CGAjLNBsE

    Orc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYYqKCnlPuA

    Moon Elf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAjjZJT7BDs



    don't look at mine bad english

     

     

    i don't know what mmorpg is fun....

  • RudedawgCDNRudedawgCDN Member UncommonPosts: 507
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    I think what the op meant are people who continue to force their negative opinions on other. People like Zigmund and Vanguarde have stopped playing the game months ago (if they even played it at all), yet they still slam the game here whenever they get the chance for months now.



    OMG AL Roxxurs!!!

     

  • sirgrindalotsirgrindalot Member Posts: 10

    Ohnoes, it's teh Grindlord.

    My personal opinion is that it smells funny, but i don't blame people for playing it.

    I mean, wth, why should i care what YOU *points finger out of screen* are playing?

     

    Sidequestion: Has anyone gotten the title Archlord allready? o0

     

  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564

    I always wonder why people assume negative opinions should be given any more weight, taken any more seriously or feel any more "forced", than a positive one.

    An opinion is an opinion is an opinion. In that light, a poorly-stated and unsupported view is just as weightless if it's positive or negative. "This game rules!" has no more or less validity to me than "This game sucks!" They're both unsupported statements. Why does it rule? Why does it suck?

    Why does there always seem to be more negative on forums than positive? Well, because the people who would post positive are probably too busy playing and enjoying themselves. People who are unhappy will always be more vocal because, well, they certainly aren't going to be playing the game. There's a quote that doesn't relate to this, but is applicable: "Thrice I did good, and that I heard never. Once I did bad, and that I heard ever". People are always more vocal about the negative - it doesn't make them any more relevant, or "dangerous". Just a bit louder.

    On their own, Still, no opinion, negative or positive, should be silenced. They should be *challenged*, sure, but not dismissed.

     

    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."     - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564

    Originally posted by kestas18
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    I don't usually respond like this, but this is an extreme case. Could you please go back, apply capitalization and punctuation to that post so it's actually readable?

    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."     - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • kestas18kestas18 Member Posts: 2
    haha make sense sry about that.Il try to explain it so that ppl cold read it hehe. first  i don't like the way ppl talks about games so what if they don't like it they don't have right to say games sucks i personaly look at ppl opinion first and then at youtube for movies and if posible try the game make my own opinion go to foruma and say what i think about it good and bad parts so that ppl wold know what they buy.second p2p or b2p is same as riping ppl off try to imagine that u buy a game and after few weaks u don't even wana look at it what wold u do i can tell u what u go to talk crap in forum or u try to sell the key for lower price to someone else and if u fail selling in it means u spend money for nothing shop system is enoght to make money and help server to hold on plus if it wold be f2p with shops the population wold be huge and amount of money they make wold be doble curent one i hope its readable right now if not sry right now i had some sirios exams and i need to calm my nerves sry again
  • NabatamNabatam Member Posts: 43
    Originally posted by yanex


    so i hear alot of that is is a bad game but much people say that is a good game.


    i just orderd it at bol.com so i have to wait a wile. but i think its a realy good game, whit a realy origional kind of story.
     
     
    If you just ordered it and have not played it.... how can you say it is a good game?
  • avinaravinar Member Posts: 30

    Tjparkins, 'everyone has the right to their own opinion, but don't force yours on someone else and make them believe that it is a fact'

    Euhm ...? people have the same right to give negative remarks about archlord as you have the right to give positive ones.

    Why do you assume that every negative remark is an obligation to other people, to make it sound like a fact?

    But according to my logics, you're doing just the same thing. Then you would be forcing someone else, making them believe that your positive comment is a fact, no?

    Archlord is perfectly comparable with Lineage 2, not with World of Warcraft (since that is not a korean grinder). What features does Archlord have diffirent than Lineage 2? It's a grindfest, there is no real goal to it, it's lame, the pvp is just a bash fest, economy is absolutely screwed to its core (you're ignorant if you deny this, check the auction), there is NO point in joining a party, except for auto looting (imagin, no use for partying in an MMORPG, what a move), it's buggy, graphics looks nice from far away, but when you look at them closely, it's all flat textured, blurry to cover up the flaws, extremely generic, do you want me to continue? You know, Archlord is a subordinate version of Lineage 2, exact same concept, but a lot less developped.

    That is my opinion, did i force someone to agree with me?

    Bad comments don't scare of people, at least not for archlord. people HAVE to know that Archlord is just another korean grinder, people who dislike grinders will follow those bad remarks yes, for the better. I wouldn't want to throw away 50 euros on something i'll wind up disliking anyway. So making this kind of discouragement is justified enough if you ask me.

    On the other hand, people who like grinders will ignore this and just say otherwise, and i'm not stopping them. Good for them that they like grinders, i have not the least objection about them playing archlord. But that is the general idea, only people who actually like grinders will end up playing Archlord, the archlord community exists out of people who like grinders. (this is not a flame comment on people who like grinders).

     Yanex, the story is again, the casual korean way of things ... Man vs Monsters, monster side has this incredibly powerfull boss figure, couple of heroes from the good side group up to kill it. How is that original in any way? this is just a cliché really.

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