As I follow the EO forums, it seems there is silent war going on between CCP and their playerbase. I quit a month ago, but I'm still following the forums. Some threads are unbelievable, no response from CCP for months, specially about bugged regions ( new ones ). And as I see, lots of players are angry and getting frustrated more and more.
Who do you think win this fight ?
In the red corner, CCP "The God"
And the blue corner, Player "The Prayer"
or should I say;
In the red corner, CCP "The Prayer"
And the blue corner, Player "The God"
Heh after re-reading this bit [which i missed] i shall reply to your question properly.
Recently a dev aknoledged the problem and aparently on SiSi there is an ore fix not sure about the rogue drone bit tho.
I quit a few days ago. First, about a month ago, 78 million isk disappeared out of my account and was labeled a "broker fee". With my skills, my biggest broker fee is only 0.6%, that means I would've had to do a transaction of close to 10 billion isk to have to pay 78 million, I have never come close to that kind of wealth. I petitioned, the response was basically "our game couldn't have made a mistake". The GM refused to research it any further and he hoped I could "recover" from my loss.
After the revelations patch, a very expensive tech2 ship with lots of expensive fittings disappeared out of my hanger, a fully fitted rapier, and was replaced by an ibis (worthless noob ship). I petitioned again, after two full weeks with no response from CCP, I cancelled both my accounts. It takes weeks to earn enough isk to buy a T2 ship, waiting over 2 weeks for a response is unforgivable. I've had petitions take a long time before, 9 out of 10 times the answer from CCP boils down to "our mistake, your problem, like it or lump it." I refuse to be ripped off by CCP anymore.
My losses, coupled with the developer cheating scandal ( a dev who plays the game was conjuring up T2 ship blueprints worth billions of isk for his buddies in BOB), and the fact that many of the developers play the game (giving them reason to cheat) has me frustrated to the point that I've abandoned both my characters, and I've been playing for 15 months.
The main reason is that the developers are the Gods and the players are peons to be used and abused. I've got plenty of people who want to abuse me, I'm not gonna pay to be abused. If you haven't played Eve, don't. The GMs could care less about you or your account. As long as the subscriptions continue to increase, and the devs have an self-serving reason to see you fail, all of your efforts will be for nothing.
In Reply to Fencer55, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I had similiar experiences and quit the game after approx 6 months of playing.... I'd strongly suggest passing this game to anyone looking for a worthwhile gaming experience.... CCP is winning at the moment, they are being pretty effective I think in covering up the **** they have pulled and will pull Band of Dev's (BOB) Still exists....... The only way the players win is to actually stop playing CCP's game, and have CCP go out of business......
QFT ! ! ! ! !
Let the game be taken over by another bigger company that knows how to enforce its own rules equally on all!!!!
I win, ccp will not see my $$$$ any more!
ccp the "we cheat for our buddies and are proud of it" company...
Oh id say that the palyerbase has wone this one as it seems everyone on the official forum bourds are tired of this topic or simply dont care because the most this had ever affected was a small preportion of the eve playerbase.
Yeah because developer corruption in the 6th largest Alliance in the game only affect a small portion of the playerbase...
/sarcasmoff
and because it was only one dev/staff who EVER cheated. none of the other would ever dream of doing anything like t20, or of doing worse.
they're vikings after all. it wasn't just one ccp employee
it wasn't just one incident
each time ccp employees were caught cheating it resulted in a coverup spree, this last time, it leaked to other forums...now the sheet hit the fan and ccp is scampering to cover it up as best they can.
it shows that ccp can not be trusted.
It's all of them. If they are a dev and play, they cheat. Eve is their personal playground.
I quit a few days ago. First, about a month ago, 78 million isk disappeared out of my account and was labeled a "broker fee". With my skills, my biggest broker fee is only 0.6%, that means I would've had to do a transaction of close to 10 billion isk to have to pay 78 million, I have never come close to that kind of wealth. I petitioned, the response was basically "our game couldn't have made a mistake". The GM refused to research it any further and he hoped I could "recover" from my loss.
After the revelations patch, a very expensive tech2 ship with lots of expensive fittings disappeared out of my hanger, a fully fitted rapier, and was replaced by an ibis (worthless noob ship). I petitioned again, after two full weeks with no response from CCP, I cancelled both my accounts. It takes weeks to earn enough isk to buy a T2 ship, waiting over 2 weeks for a response is unforgivable. I've had petitions take a long time before, 9 out of 10 times the answer from CCP boils down to "our mistake, your problem, like it or lump it." I refuse to be ripped off by CCP anymore.
My losses, coupled with the developer cheating scandal ( a dev who plays the game was conjuring up T2 ship blueprints worth billions of isk for his buddies in BOB), and the fact that many of the developers play the game (giving them reason to cheat) has me frustrated to the point that I've abandoned both my characters, and I've been playing for 15 months.
The main reason is that the developers are the Gods and the players are peons to be used and abused. I've got plenty of people who want to abuse me, I'm not gonna pay to be abused. If you haven't played Eve, don't. The GMs could care less about you or your account. As long as the subscriptions continue to increase, and the devs have an self-serving reason to see you fail, all of your efforts will be for nothing.
As I follow the EO forums, it seems there is silent war going on between CCP and their playerbase. I quit a month ago, but I'm still following the forums. Some threads are unbelievable, no response from CCP for months, specially about bugged regions ( new ones ). And as I see, lots of players are angry and getting frustrated more and more.
Who do you think win this fight ?
In the red corner, CCP "The God"
And the blue corner, Player "The Prayer"
or should I say;
In the red corner, CCP "The Prayer"
And the blue corner, Player "The God"
IMHO none and both wins. Because its the only game out there where the devs and the players plays on the same team.
I have played many games, but EVE is still the game out there where the devs knows how to listen. The whiners they are thankfully not listening to much to. Yes, there have been a little more whining lately. But mostly from dissatisfied former WoW players who think this game is too harsh. What most of those people dont understand is that "harshness" is tied to the life cycle of the ingame World. No losses means no more production etc. You do after all need only a very limited number of battleships after all if you are not going to loose it.
Anyway, the statistics for the playerbase is stable. The whinings about the incident in february is thankfully gone. And we have nice wars going on again in EVE!
So, theres no war between CCP and the playerbase as a whole! Debates ofcource! And sometimes loud debates and arguments. But those are performed with reasons. As the devs answers with their arguments. Result in the end? Better game for all parts! We the player base gets a better (perfect?) game, while the devs and CCP are earning money. And all are happy!
So, theres no war between CCP and the playerbase as a whole! Debates ofcource! And sometimes loud debates and arguments. But those are performed with reasons. As the devs answers with their arguments. Result in the end? Better game for all parts! We the player base gets a better (perfect?) game, while the devs and CCP are earning money. And all are happy!
Hello CCP damage control....you're late.
That particular part of your post is a complete joke. I've seen threads go on for months and attain THOUSANDS of posts and hundreds of pages of arguments go on without a single reasonable response from CCP.
And the most pathetic part is the phrase "working as intended" that was created to make light of terrible and blantantly obvious bugs/exploits that were merely disregarded and uses that phrase as an actual standard official response. Don't beleive me? Go read the forums some more and see for yourself.
So, theres no war between CCP and the playerbase as a whole! Debates ofcource! And sometimes loud debates and arguments. But those are performed with reasons. As the devs answers with their arguments. Result in the end? Better game for all parts! We the player base gets a better (perfect?) game, while the devs and CCP are earning money. And all are happy!
Hello CCP damage control....you're late.
That particular part of your post is a complete joke. I've seen threads go on for months and attain THOUSANDS of posts and hundreds of pages of arguments go on without a single reasonable response from CCP.
And the most pathetic part is the phrase "working as intended" that was created to make light of terrible and blantantly obvious bugs/exploits that were merely disregarded and uses that phrase as an actual standard official response. Don't beleive me? Go read the forums some more and see for yourself.
If you have seen this, please post quotes and links so we all get informed and can decide. It would be a drag to read thousand of posts for something that hasn't really affected me. But if you are kind enough to point out those posts I should read, it would be very appreciated.
On alliance level the 6 bpos t20 used had nearly no consequences at all. A billion isk is NOTHING for a big alliance. If you are leaving a game because one guy abused his power (which happens anywhere and everywhere all the time) then I guess the game wasnt for you anyway.
--- Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Oh id say that the palyerbase has wone this one as it seems everyone on the official forum bourds are tired of this topic or simply dont care because the most this had ever affected was a small preportion of the eve playerbase.
Sorry LordSlater, you're wrong as always, but I won't argue about how many players are affected. We all know about it.
and just because we "know" about it, doesnt mean we were affected by it at all. i know i sure wasnt, i dont even give a crap about it at all.
Oh id say that the palyerbase has wone this one as it seems everyone on the official forum bourds are tired of this topic or simply dont care because the most this had ever affected was a small preportion of the eve playerbase.
Sorry LordSlater, you're wrong as always, but I won't argue about how many players are affected. We all know about it.
and just because we "know" about it, doesnt mean we were affected by it at all. i know i sure wasnt, i dont even give a crap about it at all.
Oh id say that the palyerbase has wone this one as it seems everyone on the official forum bourds are tired of this topic or simply dont care because the most this had ever affected was a small preportion of the eve playerbase.
Sorry LordSlater, you're wrong as always, but I won't argue about how many players are affected. We all know about it.
and just because we "know" about it, doesnt mean we were affected by it at all. i know i sure wasnt, i dont even give a crap about it at all.
So the game managers did cheat?
The Devs did cheat. Sources inform it was one of the devs. Some people are mad because he wasn't fired. Some others don't even care, mainly because they weren't affected. Thanks to that event, now there is a MAJOR war. All the PvPers are fired up doing their thing and having fun.
On alliance level the 6 bpos t20 used had nearly no consequences at all. A billion isk is NOTHING for a big alliance. If you are leaving a game because one guy abused his power (which happens anywhere and everywhere all the time) then I guess the game wasnt for you anyway.
The creation of the items (BPOs) and their gift to an alliance in the game is only a small part of why many players are angry. CCP found out about these BPOs and went against company policy and did not fire the Dev. The BPOs were left in the game until the players found out about it and became angry. When the players found out, CCP tried to subtley kill the discussions multiple times to no avail. Then, they said that they had to "investigate" something that they already knew happened. When the players did not allow that to be the end of the issue, CCP finally admitted what happened.
CCP wrote a few Dev Blogs about it and created a Director of Internal Affairs. However, they refuse to answer the vast majority of the questions or concerns raised by the players in response to those Blogs. Recenty the community manager responded to one of the threads and said if the players don't like it, they can find another game.
Recenty the community manager responded to one of the threads and said if the players don't like it, they can find another game.
The lead Dev responds in much the same way to player/customer concerns as well.
Such a shame tbh, as this is without doubt, the best, most in depth game i've ever played.
Maybe thats why the game has the depth ? Maybe it is because the devs do not listen to the whiners and carebears.
In any case I guess CCP could have handled it all a bit cleverer. Do not forget: Overall the feedback we get in this game from the devs is a multitude more than in any other game (I am sure someone will correct me). You shouldn't forget that CCP is just trying to minimize the effect of losing face. I guess T20 is an important dev so CCP is trying to get through the "crisis" without having to replace "quality" personal (expensive).
--- Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Maybe thats why the game has the depth ? Maybe it is because the devs do not listen to the whiners and carebears.
In any case I guess CCP could have handled it all a bit cleverer. Do not forget: Overall the feedback we get in this game from the devs is a multitude more than in any other game (I am sure someone will correct me). You shouldn't forget that CCP is just trying to minimize the effect of losing face. I guess T20 is an important dev so CCP is trying to get through the "crisis" without having to replace "quality" personal (expensive).
Oh I agree with that, a hell of a lot of the whining that goes on is justifiably ignored, especially the extremely repetetive ones...
"Wipe the server" , "Half training time for noobs", "Multiple servers" etc...
They do communicate a lot more with the playerbase than most others yes, and I agree as well that they are trying desperately to save face.. (fanfest is going to be interesting, if they even allow the topic to arrise that is) but the constant ignoring of long time bugs and insane lag, whilst focusing on adding new stuff, that a large proportion seem to not want, is a major part of their ongoing problems.
----- Pay-to-Win / F2P will be the death of real gaming, Boycott it !!
Oh I agree with that, a hell of a lot of the whining that goes on is justifiably ignored, especially the extremely repetetive ones... "Wipe the server" , "Half training time for noobs", "Multiple servers" etc... They do communicate a lot more with the playerbase than most others yes, and I agree as well that they are trying desperately to save face.. (fanfest is going to be interesting, if they even allow the topic to arrise that is) but the constant ignoring of long time bugs and insane lag, whilst focusing on adding new stuff, that a large proportion seem to not want, is a major part of their ongoing problems.
Dont know what you are on about here the bugs are being adressed and the new stuff that YOU dont want is being developed by a completly seperate developer team so i dont know what you are on about. Perhaps if you listtheese Bugs you are on about then i could answer you better.
Oh I agree with that, a hell of a lot of the whining that goes on is justifiably ignored, especially the extremely repetetive ones... "Wipe the server" , "Half training time for noobs", "Multiple servers" etc... They do communicate a lot more with the playerbase than most others yes, and I agree as well that they are trying desperately to save face.. (fanfest is going to be interesting, if they even allow the topic to arrise that is) but the constant ignoring of long time bugs and insane lag, whilst focusing on adding new stuff, that a large proportion seem to not want, is a major part of their ongoing problems.
Dont know what you are on about here the bugs are being adressed and the new stuff that YOU dont want is being developed by a completly seperate developer team so i dont know what you are on about. Perhaps if you listtheese Bugs you are on about then i could answer you better.
Bugs: First thing I thought of was:
Drones AI - For gods sake why do they still not work properly?
Fixing Exlpoits: This is right now on the top of the to do list for me:
Logoffski: Lots of people are using the exploit to not die in gate camps. It is lame and equivalent to warping out of bubbles. The hands of the GMs are tied because the game does not provide the means to show if it was a true abuse. I would rather see this fixed than any new content.
--- Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Oh I agree with that, a hell of a lot of the whining that goes on is justifiably ignored, especially the extremely repetetive ones... "Wipe the server" , "Half training time for noobs", "Multiple servers" etc... They do communicate a lot more with the playerbase than most others yes, and I agree as well that they are trying desperately to save face.. (fanfest is going to be interesting, if they even allow the topic to arrise that is) but the constant ignoring of long time bugs and insane lag, whilst focusing on adding new stuff, that a large proportion seem to not want, is a major part of their ongoing problems.
Dont know what you are on about here the bugs are being adressed and the new stuff that YOU dont want is being developed by a completly seperate developer team so i dont know what you are on about. Perhaps if you listtheese Bugs you are on about then i could answer you better.
Bugs: First thing I thought of was:
Drones AI - For gods sake why do they still not work properly?
Fixing Exlpoits: This is right now on the top of the to do list for me:
Logoffski: Lots of people are using the exploit to not die in gate camps. It is lame and equivalent to warping out of bubbles. The hands of the GMs are tied because the game does not provide the means to show if it was a true abuse. I would rather see this fixed than any new content.
well it seems you ahve chose the the bugs and things that the devs ahve admited that they cant fix as they cant think of a fare way to fix them. [hell it took them 2 years to fix the Warp stab bug].
Maybe thats why the game has the depth ? Maybe it is because the devs do not listen to the whiners and carebears.
In any case I guess CCP could have handled it all a bit cleverer. Do not forget: Overall the feedback we get in this game from the devs is a multitude more than in any other game (I am sure someone will correct me). You shouldn't forget that CCP is just trying to minimize the effect of losing face. I guess T20 is an important dev so CCP is trying to get through the "crisis" without having to replace "quality" personal (expensive).
Oh I agree with that, a hell of a lot of the whining that goes on is justifiably ignored, especially the extremely repetetive ones...
"Wipe the server" , "Half training time for noobs", "Multiple servers" etc...
They do communicate a lot more with the playerbase than most others yes, and I agree as well that they are trying desperately to save face.. (fanfest is going to be interesting, if they even allow the topic to arrise that is) but the constant ignoring of long time bugs and insane lag, whilst focusing on adding new stuff, that a large proportion seem to not want, is a major part of their ongoing problems.
I agree with there are a lot of bad ideas from the players. In addition to the ones above, there's the "All Dev characters should be tagged in game" and "Anyone killed by a Dev gets all of their stuff replaced". However, the issue isn't that CCP isn't changing the game. The issue is that CCP is ignoring 99% of all questions raised in Dev Blog comments. They tried to sidestep the whole T20 affair before they had to admit to it and they are now doing the same thing.
I'm sure that they just didn't want to fire T20, but that is not why CCP has stated as the reason he wasn't fired. They said that senior management was on vacation. Yup. In this day and age, they couldn't be reached while they were on vacation and when they returned it was too late to do anything. The sad part is that many players think that's acceptable.
On of the reasons why CCP is not responding to the questions is because they know that many people will lose interest as time passes even if there are no answers. It's done in politics all of the time. Dodge the issue until it's out of the news and then go forward as is nothing has happened.
The other reason why CCP doesn't care to answer the questions is that they don't have any competition in their MMO niche right now and many players won't quit unless they have another game to play. It'll be interesting to see what happens when another space MMO releases. How many players want to play EVE and how many just want to play a space MMO?
I agree with there are a lot of bad ideas from the players. In addition to the ones above, there's the "All Dev characters should be tagged in game" and "Anyone killed by a Dev gets all of their stuff replaced". However, the issue isn't that CCP isn't changing the game. The issue is that CCP is ignoring 99% of all questions raised in Dev Blog comments. They tried to sidestep the whole T20 affair before they had to admit to it and they are now doing the same thing.
I'm sure that they just didn't want to fire T20, but that is not why CCP has stated as the reason he wasn't fired. They said that senior management was on vacation. Yup. In this day and age, they couldn't be reached while they were on vacation and when they returned it was too late to do anything. The sad part is that many players think that's acceptable.
On of the reasons why CCP is not responding to the questions is because they know that many people will lose interest as time passes even if there are no answers. It's done in politics all of the time. Dodge the issue until it's out of the news and then go forward as is nothing has happened.
The other reason why CCP doesn't care to answer the questions is that they don't have any competition in their MMO niche right now and many players won't quit unless they have another game to play. It'll be interesting to see what happens when another space MMO releases. How many players want to play EVE and how many just want to play a space MMO?
Heh id probably leave eve for a while at least if there was another DECENT space based MMO.
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Heh after re-reading this bit [which i missed] i shall reply to your question properly.
Recently a dev aknoledged the problem and aparently on SiSi there is an ore fix not sure about the rogue drone bit tho.
After the revelations patch, a very expensive tech2 ship with lots of expensive fittings disappeared out of my hanger, a fully fitted rapier, and was replaced by an ibis (worthless noob ship). I petitioned again, after two full weeks with no response from CCP, I cancelled both my accounts. It takes weeks to earn enough isk to buy a T2 ship, waiting over 2 weeks for a response is unforgivable. I've had petitions take a long time before, 9 out of 10 times the answer from CCP boils down to "our mistake, your problem, like it or lump it." I refuse to be ripped off by CCP anymore.
My losses, coupled with the developer cheating scandal ( a dev who plays the game was conjuring up T2 ship blueprints worth billions of isk for his buddies in BOB), and the fact that many of the developers play the game (giving them reason to cheat) has me frustrated to the point that I've abandoned both my characters, and I've been playing for 15 months.
The main reason is that the developers are the Gods and the players are peons to be used and abused. I've got plenty of people who want to abuse me, I'm not gonna pay to be abused. If you haven't played Eve, don't. The GMs could care less about you or your account. As long as the subscriptions continue to increase, and the devs have an self-serving reason to see you fail, all of your efforts will be for nothing.
In Reply to Fencer55, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I had similiar experiences and quit the game after approx 6 months of playing....
I'd strongly suggest passing this game to anyone looking for a worthwhile gaming experience....
CCP is winning at the moment, they are being pretty effective I think in covering up the **** they have pulled and will pull
Band of Dev's (BOB) Still exists.......
The only way the players win is to actually stop playing CCP's game, and have CCP go out of business......
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The game is dead not, this game is good we make it and Romania Tv give it 5 goat heads, this is good rating for game.
Let the game be taken over by another bigger company that knows how to enforce its own rules equally on all!!!!
I win, ccp will not see my $$$$ any more!
ccp the "we cheat for our buddies and are proud of it" company...
Yeah because developer corruption in the 6th largest Alliance in the game only affect a small portion of the playerbase...
/sarcasmoff
and because it was only one dev/staff who EVER cheated. none of the other would ever dream of doing anything like t20, or of doing worse.
they're vikings after all. it wasn't just one ccp employee
it wasn't just one incident
each time ccp employees were caught cheating it resulted in a coverup spree, this last time, it leaked to other forums...now the sheet hit the fan and ccp is scampering to cover it up as best they can.
it shows that ccp can not be trusted.
It's all of them. If they are a dev and play, they cheat. Eve is their personal playground.
I have played many games, but EVE is still the game out there where the devs knows how to listen. The whiners they are thankfully not listening to much to. Yes, there have been a little more whining lately. But mostly from dissatisfied former WoW players who think this game is too harsh. What most of those people dont understand is that "harshness" is tied to the life cycle of the ingame World. No losses means no more production etc. You do after all need only a very limited number of battleships after all if you are not going to loose it.
Anyway, the statistics for the playerbase is stable. The whinings about the incident in february is thankfully gone. And we have nice wars going on again in EVE!
So, theres no war between CCP and the playerbase as a whole! Debates ofcource! And sometimes loud debates and arguments. But those are performed with reasons. As the devs answers with their arguments. Result in the end? Better game for all parts! We the player base gets a better (perfect?) game, while the devs and CCP are earning money. And all are happy!
Hello CCP damage control....you're late.
That particular part of your post is a complete joke. I've seen threads go on for months and attain THOUSANDS of posts and hundreds of pages of arguments go on without a single reasonable response from CCP.
And the most pathetic part is the phrase "working as intended" that was created to make light of terrible and blantantly obvious bugs/exploits that were merely disregarded and uses that phrase as an actual standard official response. Don't beleive me? Go read the forums some more and see for yourself.
Is this stuff about CCP cheating, all made up, or has CCP censored their forums to hide the information?
Based on what I've seen, I am reluctant to move from trial to paid account.
Please let me know!
Hello CCP damage control....you're late.
That particular part of your post is a complete joke. I've seen threads go on for months and attain THOUSANDS of posts and hundreds of pages of arguments go on without a single reasonable response from CCP.
And the most pathetic part is the phrase "working as intended" that was created to make light of terrible and blantantly obvious bugs/exploits that were merely disregarded and uses that phrase as an actual standard official response. Don't beleive me? Go read the forums some more and see for yourself.
If you have seen this, please post quotes and links so we all get informed and can decide. It would be a drag to read thousand of posts for something that hasn't really affected me. But if you are kind enough to point out those posts I should read, it would be very appreciated.On alliance level the 6 bpos t20 used had nearly no consequences at all. A billion isk is NOTHING for a big alliance. If you are leaving a game because one guy abused his power (which happens anywhere and everywhere all the time) then I guess the game wasnt for you anyway.
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Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
and just because we "know" about it, doesnt mean we were affected by it at all. i know i sure wasnt, i dont even give a crap about it at all.
and just because we "know" about it, doesnt mean we were affected by it at all. i know i sure wasnt, i dont even give a crap about it at all.
So the game managers did cheat?
and just because we "know" about it, doesnt mean we were affected by it at all. i know i sure wasnt, i dont even give a crap about it at all.
So the game managers did cheat?
The Devs did cheat. Sources inform it was one of the devs. Some people are mad because he wasn't fired. Some others don't even care, mainly because they weren't affected. Thanks to that event, now there is a MAJOR war. All the PvPers are fired up doing their thing and having fun.
CCP wrote a few Dev Blogs about it and created a Director of Internal Affairs. However, they refuse to answer the vast majority of the questions or concerns raised by the players in response to those Blogs. Recenty the community manager responded to one of the threads and said if the players don't like it, they can find another game.
The lead Dev responds in much the same way to player/customer concerns as well.
Such a shame tbh, as this is without doubt, the best, most in depth game i've ever played.
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Pay-to-Win / F2P will be the death of real gaming, Boycott it !!
The lead Dev responds in much the same way to player/customer concerns as well.
Such a shame tbh, as this is without doubt, the best, most in depth game i've ever played.
Maybe thats why the game has the depth ? Maybe it is because the devs do not listen to the whiners and carebears.In any case I guess CCP could have handled it all a bit cleverer. Do not forget: Overall the feedback we get in this game from the devs is a multitude more than in any other game (I am sure someone will correct me). You shouldn't forget that CCP is just trying to minimize the effect of losing face. I guess T20 is an important dev so CCP is trying to get through the "crisis" without having to replace "quality" personal (expensive).
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Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Oh I agree with that, a hell of a lot of the whining that goes on is justifiably ignored, especially the extremely repetetive ones...
"Wipe the server" , "Half training time for noobs", "Multiple servers" etc...
They do communicate a lot more with the playerbase than most others yes, and I agree as well that they are trying desperately to save face.. (fanfest is going to be interesting, if they even allow the topic to arrise that is) but the constant ignoring of long time bugs and insane lag, whilst focusing on adding new stuff, that a large proportion seem to not want, is a major part of their ongoing problems.
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Pay-to-Win / F2P will be the death of real gaming, Boycott it !!
Bugs: First thing I thought of was:
Drones AI - For gods sake why do they still not work properly?
Fixing Exlpoits: This is right now on the top of the to do list for me:
Logoffski: Lots of people are using the exploit to not die in gate camps. It is lame and equivalent to warping out of bubbles. The hands of the GMs are tied because the game does not provide the means to show if it was a true abuse. I would rather see this fixed than any new content.
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Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Bugs: First thing I thought of was:
Drones AI - For gods sake why do they still not work properly?
Fixing Exlpoits: This is right now on the top of the to do list for me:
Logoffski: Lots of people are using the exploit to not die in gate camps. It is lame and equivalent to warping out of bubbles. The hands of the GMs are tied because the game does not provide the means to show if it was a true abuse. I would rather see this fixed than any new content.
well it seems you ahve chose the the bugs and things that the devs ahve admited that they cant fix as they cant think of a fare way to fix them. [hell it took them 2 years to fix the Warp stab bug].
Oh I agree with that, a hell of a lot of the whining that goes on is justifiably ignored, especially the extremely repetetive ones...
"Wipe the server" , "Half training time for noobs", "Multiple servers" etc...
They do communicate a lot more with the playerbase than most others yes, and I agree as well that they are trying desperately to save face.. (fanfest is going to be interesting, if they even allow the topic to arrise that is) but the constant ignoring of long time bugs and insane lag, whilst focusing on adding new stuff, that a large proportion seem to not want, is a major part of their ongoing problems.
I agree with there are a lot of bad ideas from the players. In addition to the ones above, there's the "All Dev characters should be tagged in game" and "Anyone killed by a Dev gets all of their stuff replaced". However, the issue isn't that CCP isn't changing the game. The issue is that CCP is ignoring 99% of all questions raised in Dev Blog comments. They tried to sidestep the whole T20 affair before they had to admit to it and they are now doing the same thing.I'm sure that they just didn't want to fire T20, but that is not why CCP has stated as the reason he wasn't fired. They said that senior management was on vacation. Yup. In this day and age, they couldn't be reached while they were on vacation and when they returned it was too late to do anything. The sad part is that many players think that's acceptable.
On of the reasons why CCP is not responding to the questions is because they know that many people will lose interest as time passes even if there are no answers. It's done in politics all of the time. Dodge the issue until it's out of the news and then go forward as is nothing has happened.
The other reason why CCP doesn't care to answer the questions is that they don't have any competition in their MMO niche right now and many players won't quit unless they have another game to play. It'll be interesting to see what happens when another space MMO releases. How many players want to play EVE and how many just want to play a space MMO?