Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

How is it?

Probally asked more than anything on these boards, I know,

But....

Can somebody tell me the pro's and con's of this game?

I'm looking for a new game to get into, and DAoC is one im considering.

Just ismple things like...

How is the PvP? Is it possible to do anything solo?

Are there any new players ever? Can a new player compete?

Will I spend a year waiting before I can PvP? What is the skill/level'ing system like?

Comments

  • ByromByrom Member Posts: 236
    Well If 20 minute plus login times are normal I'd say it sux so far, sry 29 minutes right now and still waiting.
  • calicojack17calicojack17 Member Posts: 30
    well ill be starting when i get payed this week so yes there are new players. an from the looks the most populated servers are the classic servers so ill prolly be startin a celtic blademaster on lamorak

    currently playing: Guitar Hero, Guitar Hero 2.
    Waiting for: Warhammer:Age Of Reckoning, A good Star Wars MMO
    Retired From: WoW 40 Ne Rogue/40 Tauren war/40 BE Hunter, SWG 72 Bothan Medic, CoV 40 DM/Regen stalker, GW 20 W/R 14 E/M 14 W/R, DAoC 20 Vampiir 20 BM 20 BD 20 Thane.

    how about a nice tall glass of STFU

  • OgrelinOgrelin Member Posts: 636


    Originally posted by Byrom
    Well If 20 minute plus login times are normal I'd say it sux so far, sry 29 minutes right now and still waiting.

    It's becouse there was a new patch launched last night and it was huge...and you probably need alot more that 60MB if it's the first time u patch up :)

    normally logging in takes 30 secs on a "normal" computer.

  • OgrelinOgrelin Member Posts: 636


    Originally posted by KercoCosa
    Probally asked more than anything on these boards, I know,
    But....
    Can somebody tell me the pro's and con's of this game?
    I'm looking for a new game to get into, and DAoC is one im considering.
    Just ismple things like...
    How is the PvP? Is it possible to do anything solo?
    Are there any new players ever? Can a new player compete?
    Will I spend a year waiting before I can PvP? What is the skill/level'ing system like?

    1. The PvP is GREAT, there are Battlegrounds for lowlevel characters so you don't have to worry about beeing beat up to pulp by highlevel players.

    2. On the classic us-server where I play there are plenty of new players.

    3. The level system is pretty simple. You start at lvl 1 and then you can ither kill monsters or go of and fight other players to gain exp. The best way to exp is a combination of exping/question/pvping since you will want to get items from quests ect.

    You get both coin and exp from killing players.

    The main PvP area is called The Fronteir, you CAN enter it when your lvl 1...but this is the area where the big boys fight so don't expect to last long :) As I said there are several battlegrounds where you can pvp while you level up to lvl 50.

    At lvl 15 you can start gain realmpoints in the BGs, the points can be used to gain special abilities.

    At lvl 50 you start earning champion points, they can also be used to buy special abilities. There are 10 championlevels, and each level gets you a new ability.

    I hope you give this gamea try, becouse your gonna love it! :)

  • WerppaWerppa Member Posts: 211
    It really depends of which class you choose to play and if you gonna group or solo but I'd say that it takes about 2-4 weeks to get you char to 50. I levelled my necro to 50 in 1.5 weeks, reaver in 4 weeks, wizard in 5 weeks (soloed most of the time, I wouldn't recommend soloing a pure caster to 50) and pally in one week (duo with friar).

    "I actually cook my meat with nothing but my burning hatred for vegetables"

  • ByromByrom Member Posts: 236
    Yeah it was a 200 mb plus patch but Im thinkin I got puter issue's which sux cause I just got this machine and it has bout 6 grand in it. Will try again after the builder looks at it. My other games started messing up too this morn.
  • RodzillaRodzilla Member UncommonPosts: 159
       I played this game at release and continued to play it for the following 3.5 years. It was far and away the best mmo ive ever played.

    searching for the next DAoC....

    Kay-exile

  • karnaktckarnaktc Member Posts: 12
    this game is not worth playing.400lb lifer slobs with all the rare drops and ml10 ,cl10, rr10  and to top it off they run in zergs even the stealthers.If you wanna pay to be free rps for them it is your choice.They have classes that can slam you and get behind you and hit u with a move that procs a damage add for 250-350 and they get off 5 in a row and you die without a chance unless u have purge up then with the shield changes you cannot hit them they wait out the immnunity timer and do it then.This game is dying the numbers dont lie.People dont have to like it but  again the numbers dont lie.And cheating is rampant people radar.lag cast/attack/get away from you and they use exploits too and the crs just lie to you when you appeal even with screen shots.Join the other 75% thats quit or dont play at all the only thing mythic/ea understands is cancelled accounts and they have alot of those.
  • RodzillaRodzilla Member UncommonPosts: 159
     lol what?

    searching for the next DAoC....

    Kay-exile

  • WerppaWerppa Member Posts: 211
    Originally posted by karnaktc

    this game is not worth playing.400lb lifer slobs with all the rare drops and ml10 ,cl10, rr10  and to top it off they run in zergs even the stealthers.If you wanna pay to be free rps for them it is your choice.They have classes that can slam you and get behind you and hit u with a move that procs a damage add for 250-350 and they get off 5 in a row and you die without a chance unless u have purge up then with the shield changes you cannot hit them they wait out the immnunity timer and do it then.This game is dying the numbers dont lie.People dont have to like it but  again the numbers dont lie.And cheating is rampant people radar.lag cast/attack/get away from you and they use exploits too and the crs just lie to you when you appeal even with screen shots.Join the other 75% thats quit or dont play at all the only thing mythic/ea understands is cancelled accounts and they have alot of those.



    seems that someone got ganked in RvR...

    "I actually cook my meat with nothing but my burning hatred for vegetables"

  • karnaktckarnaktc Member Posts: 12
    seems someone got ganked in rvr??? LOL sigh... a typical response you should of  went with the popular cry more noob.The fact remains everything i typed was accurate and you have no legit response .Said it once will say it again people have and are leaving this game in huge numbers 70% plus population loss.Log in at peak time and most servers except 3 or 4 have 200 or less on.Thems the facts plain and simple. Working as intended,tabled need more specifics,not at this time,and thanks for playing dark age of camelot
  • WerppaWerppa Member Posts: 211
    Originally posted by karnaktc

    seems someone got ganked in rvr??? LOL sigh... a typical response you should of  went with the popular cry more noob.The fact remains everything i typed was accurate and you have no legit response .Said it once will say it again people have and are leaving this game in huge numbers 70% plus population loss.Log in at peak time and most servers except 3 or 4 have 200 or less on.Thems the facts plain and simple. Working as intended,tabled need more specifics,not at this time,and thanks for playing dark age of camelot
    Now you lie. At peak times, Bossiney cluster has 2000+ on and other clusters have 1000+. 6 months ago in Bossiney the population was lower at peak times so player base is not declining. When you said that people cheat, why are you the only one who sees the cheating? Go and troll somewhere else

    "I actually cook my meat with nothing but my burning hatred for vegetables"

  • OgrelinOgrelin Member Posts: 636


    Originally posted by karnaktc
    seems someone got ganked in rvr??? LOL sigh... a typical response you should of  went with the popular cry more noob.The fact remains everything i typed was accurate and you have no legit response .Said it once will say it again people have and are leaving this game in huge numbers 70% plus population loss.Log in at peak time and most servers except 3 or 4 have 200 or less on.Thems the facts plain and simple. Working as intended,tabled need more specifics,not at this time,and thanks for playing dark age of camelot

    Number are not declining anymore, they are growing. And WoW was the reason so many left DAoC,and now people are leaving wow to come to DAoC. If you want ml10 ect, just go buy them for bountypoints(See patch 1.88 releasenotes).

  • brostynbrostyn Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,092
    A few things plague this game.



    1) Dated graphics.



    2) PvE is god awful boring, and boy do I mean boring. If you're not one of the classes that level up easy, then its almost unbearable. For me it was unbearable.



    3) Very small population. This hurts because you need other people on in order to RvR.



    4) The reason for the small population is that casters are now killing machines. Casters are about the only class you will find out in RvR. This is great if you enjoy casters, but a lot of people don't.



    5) RvR is dead, its now a PvP game where you just flame your realm mates, and kill the opposing realm. No siege at all anymore. There is zero incentive to fight as a realm.



    6) BGs are dead, except for Thidranki(level 21-25?) on ToA servers, and Molvik (36-40?) on classics.





    This was the best game I'd ever played until they changed the core game. Its no longer the DAoC that had over 40k users online at once. It now has an avg. of 6700 online. There is a reason for that guys.
  • JulianDracosJulianDracos Member UncommonPosts: 1,528
    1.  Graphics aren't dated.  I mean unless you are comparing them to EQ2.  The characters models need some work, but certainly is in the top 3-5 in terms of graphics.



    2.  PvE is just as entertaining as any other mmorpg.  They even added story driven aspects to the game now that actually impact the PvE world.



    3.  The population is small but the servers are clustered.  This means the RvR zones, and now almost all of the PvE zones are shared.  So population is not an issue.



    4.  Population has nothing to do with casters.  There are multiples causes that I will not get into.



    5.  Siege has problems because the rewards simply are not there.  Why spend hours trying to take a keep and get a few thousands realms points versus just killing other realms players and earning ten of thousands?  This is being worked on from multiple angles including possible resdeisgn of the front this summer.



    6.  BG's have almost always been dead.  There are usually a few key battle grounds, 2-3 of them, that people use.  Thid starts at level 20.  Level 35-39 is also a populated one.  The 44-49 one can be a good one on some servers as well. 



    There are reasons why DAOC population has declined, but I would like to point something out.  You have a game and group A thinks Y needs to be changed.  If you change it then some of Group B will leave.  If you do not, then some of Group A will leave.  That is to say, whatever any player thinks of this game and "blames" as the cause of anything is not really the cause.  Whatever Mythic does will upset someone.  Given the lack of advertisement, the age of the game, and multiple changes, you are going to end up with a declining population of the game.  MMO compaines are basically in a position of being dammed if you do and dammed if you don't.  Their action or inaction pisses people off.  After years of this (and the fact that many players are not college age virgins and tons of free time) then you are going to end up with a smaller population unless you can attract a significant amount of players to make up for what you loose.  No game has even been able to do that.  DAOC might have been able to if they had advertised in non game related media at key times and could have kept their game on the shelves.  But Vivendi stoped pushing for DAOC when WoW was in beta.  This resulted in almost no self-pressence.
  • WerppaWerppa Member Posts: 211
    I think that maybe giving better rewards for claiming keeps will lighten up the siege-warfare in Daoc. Like 10000-20000+ rp's per one keep-claiming or something like that

    "I actually cook my meat with nothing but my burning hatred for vegetables"

  • karnaktckarnaktc Member Posts: 12
    1 cluster has 2000+ on it the classic cluster and if combining 4-6 clusters to get 1000 people then about 200 a server is right.NO ONE gets banned if you are drinking the mythic/ea koolaid and believe it then your are a fool.You can lag cast,speed hack.and radar and not get banned they cannot afford to loose accounts.For anyone considering starting to play on the TOA servers 40% of the 200-300 a server are bot accounts this is fact.I guess i am a troll for stating facts.It feels good to tell undisputable facts that whine asses can only respond with weak personal attacks .So as i stated before 70%+population loss.Working as intended,tabled need more specifics,and thanks for playing Dark Age of Camelot
  • jeeperzjeeperz Member Posts: 71

    Yes Kar, some of all of that happens from time to time...  no doubt happens on the other games out there too...  Thats not Mythics fault perse - thats just bad people.  The do ban . and I'm not going to argue about  who, how often or the like.

    Yes there are some out there in RvR that are 'greygankers' and just out for the rps - forgetting that they were new once upon a time too...

    However - that  is NOT the majority of the population on ANY of the servers. 

    For the most part the boards here are a step above the 'cry some more noob' type statements that you get on VN. 

    I just hate it when someone has a bad experience and the thing they do about it is run to the boards and make a lot of trash talk about the game.  

    I hope more people just try the game for themselves ---  opinions are not facts.

  • OgrelinOgrelin Member Posts: 636


    Originally posted by karnaktc
    1 cluster has 2000+ on it the classic cluster and if combining 4-6 clusters to get 1000 people then about 200 a server is right.NO ONE gets banned if you are drinking the mythic/ea koolaid and believe it then your are a fool.You can lag cast,speed hack.and radar and not get banned they cannot afford to loose accounts.For anyone considering starting to play on the TOA servers 40% of the 200-300 a server are bot accounts this is fact.I guess i am a troll for stating facts.It feels good to tell undisputable facts that whine asses can only respond with weak personal attacks .So as i stated before 70%+population loss.Working as intended,tabled need more specifics,and thanks for playing Dark Age of Camelot

    I don't think a 5,5 year old game can whithhold a large playerbase, so comparing DAoC population of Today with DAoC at release isn't really fair.

    There are plenty of other games that has lost much more of it's subscribersm so I think DAoC is doing pretty good.

    I am currenty playing DAoC, and I'm happy with it as it is. I really hope you don't play DAoC anymore since you don't like it anymore. I don't know when you quit but it doesn't seem healthy to still go around and be angry about it. I hope you find something you like somewhere else.


  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,088
    Originally posted by karnaktc


    How did u extrude from my facts and they are facts that i am angry??? I am totally boggled by this?? So stating facts makes someone angry?? George Bush is president ... now i am angry as i just stated a fact.Working as intended,tabled need more specifics,and thanks for playing Dark Age of Camelot
    this game is not worth playing. (not factual, just your opinion)  400lb lifer slobs (this isn't an angry statement?) with all the rare drops (that they earned) and ml10 ,cl10, rr10  (that they worked hard for) and to top it off they run in zergs (you can too, safety in numbers you know) even the stealthers. (if you played a stealther recently, you'd know why they have to zerg) If you wanna pay to be free rps for them it is your choice. They have classes that can slam you (you can play those same classes you know) and get behind you (seriously?) and hit u with a move that procs a damage add for 250-350 (yeah, I wasn't too fond of that either...but I dealt with it) and they get off 5 in a row and you die without a chance unless u have purge up then with the shield changes (you sound like a shield tank player) you cannot hit them they wait out the immnunity timer and do it then.This game is dying the numbers dont lie.(actually, they've been growing lately, as other's have pointed out) People dont have to like it but  again the numbers dont lie. (well, the numbers show that some folks still like it) And cheating is rampant (you can't even begin to prove that) people radar.lag cast/attack/get away from you and they use exploits too (on occasion I've run into some of these...but in no great quantity) and the crs just lie to you when you appeal even with screen shots.  (CSR support is a bit weak these days...I assume they are putting all their eggs into WAR these days)  Join the other 75% thats quit or dont play (er...you do know that almost all games 5+ years old have a much smaller player base than they did in their peak years, except for maybe EvE..which has grown in that time) at all the only thing mythic/ea understands is cancelled accounts and they have alot of those.  (They don't care...WAR will bring back many folks to the fold....)



    Oh yes...and this statement by you (
    Working as intended,tabled need more specifics,and thanks for playing Dark Age of Camelot) doesn't make a whole lot of sense...so I can't tell if you are being angry or not.



    OK, you've done all that you can do in the game...and its time for you to move on. I myself am playing LotRO right now because I wanted something new...but if someone has never played DAOC...they can still have a very fun time.... if they just give the game a chance....   and then we'll all play WAR and live happily ever after....










    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

    Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™

    "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon






Sign In or Register to comment.