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How FAT Is America?

gnomexxxgnomexxx Member Posts: 2,920
How fat is America you ask?  Or, should I say, compared to other countries, how does America "size up". 



Well, check the chart.



upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Bmi30chart.png



I heard on the t.v. the other day that the kids today are the first generation not expected to outlive their parents.  Nice fat plump kiddies. 

I think the witch is behind it!  Haaaanzel???

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  • paulscottpaulscott Member Posts: 5,613
    wow the midwest must have a better work ethic or something because you could count the number of fat students in the school on 1 or 2 sets of hands... or either that Houston sways the whole thing off because because they took the average over the medium(statistics is the only science that was made to allow to professionals to come up with different results and be right).

    I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.

  • DuraheLLDuraheLL Member Posts: 2,951
    well if they feed the kids with pizza and all that shit in school what to expect? >_<

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  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267

    Yeah school doesn't really teach basic nutrition and infact encourages a lot of junk food. Plus that kind of food can be addictive. I've read that schools are being persuaded by Coca-Cola to install their vending machines.

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  • reavoreavo Member Posts: 2,173
    Originally posted by AlexAmore


    Yeah school doesn't really teach basic nutrition and infact encourages a lot of junk food. Plus that kind of food can be addictive. I've read that schools are being persuaded by Coca-Cola to install their vending machines.
    You're absolutely right.  Where I teach, the schools are given a subsidy from the state if they maintain a level of healthiness in the food that they serve.  The city I teach in turned down that money and instead went along with the junk food manufacturers.  The food served to the kids here is awful.  It's something that is fried practically everyday.  And as they approach the end of the line to pay they are offered Twinkies, soft drinks, and candy. 



    I would NEVER let my kid eat the food daily that the kids in my district are given.  And there are a lot of overweight kids that I teach.  But when it's all about the money and not the health of the kids, what do you expect?
  • BrianshoBriansho Member UncommonPosts: 3,586
    Many probably won't outlive their parents, but at least they will be well preserved...

    Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!

  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918

    When I lived in Indiana I saw a great deal more fat people than I ever did in 18 years living in California...now that I'm back in California, people seem Anorexic by comparison.

    I don't really know what to chalk it up to...but I will say this about Indiana people:  They seem to go out to dinner a whole hell of a lot more than people in California do.

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • albinofreakalbinofreak Member Posts: 449
    Man... almost one in three. Something should be done.
  • porgieporgie Member Posts: 1,516
    Originally posted by albinofreak

    Man... almost one in three. Something should be done.
    I've tried to do something before.  But the choices are just too limited.  Whenever I go to the grocery store maybe 1 out of every 50 products on the shelf is an unprocessed product.  And then the manufacturers play their on going game of tricking the consumer.  I've read that products on the shelf that say "organic" may not even be organic.  I would love to buy the good food, but it's just not there.



    I did go to the Whole Foods store once to shop, but you have to be a millionaire to shop there.  The food looked tasty but it was way to expensive.  And even there I'm not so sure I trust the place to just mark up the price on a normal item to make it seem healthier.



    I think our economy is now based on processed foods.  We make enough to let us shop at the grocery store and buy that crap.  If you want to buy anything different you end up spending lots more on food and you're then forced back into the regular grocery store to make ends meet.

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  • paulscottpaulscott Member Posts: 5,613
    my highschool had pizza everyday as an option,  needless to say that pizza had enough grease on the top of it fto butter two pieces of white bread(to go along with canned fruit cocktail, lettuce with mayo based dressing, and one other random item).

    I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.

  • Rreka'alRreka'al Member Posts: 450
    The food my school serves is disgustingly unhealthy. But, if you try really hard, you can actually make a decently healthy meal out of it. My girlfriend tends to take bits and pieces of  two meals, and makes a salad out of it.

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  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918

    I'm surprised at all the reports of unhealthy food...My high school probably had standard high school food, but none of it really made you want to throw up just from looking at it...I never touched the pizzza though, that stuff didn't look like my cup of tea. 

    Now my first year of college...wow...what an improvement in food...a modest meal plan could get you some GREAT food...big sandwiches made on the spot, chicken strips, you could get just about anything you wanted. It might not have been like shopping at one of those "all natural" stores, but it was definitely not the disgusting greese fest being described by others.

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • ikslejikslej Member Posts: 5
    The problem with a government using the Body Mass Index as a barometer of health, it's basically saying if you weigh a certain amount relative to your height you can tell how healthy you are. The BMI was invented by a 19th Century Belgian mathematician trying to tie 19th Century body statistics to 19th Century Sociology. It wasn't even meant to tell Belgians in 1840 what they were supposed to weigh let alone tell 21st Century individuals if there in shape. If you calculate by BMI's height and weight formula Bradd Pitt and Micheal Jordan are over weight and Russel Crow and George Clooney are obese. Another flaw in the government using the BMI as a barometer of health for the population is that it basically says everybody needs to be a certain weight within a certain height range to be healthy. So like most variations in individuals, height, hairstyle, cock size, peoples weights relative to there health are going to fall on kind of continuum. For some people who are naturally thin being thin is a good weight for others who are naturally heavy being heavy is a good weight.



    Your family tree has lots of variables but there are two things we know for sure every single one of your ancestors fucked and ate everything in site. Your here because they were wired to be obese and promiscuous, naturally your DNA is telling you to do what made your family a winner in all the past generations, surprisingly few years ago. If you didnt want more kids you'd have to try to stop f'ing. Then along comes science and suddenly no more problems, with surgery or contraceptives you could fuck as much as your monkey brain wanted without finding your self up to the neck with monkeys. Now we got plenty of food and the obesity society is telling us to stop eating. We were wired to eat! But if we dont stop eating now were up to our necks in chins. Fuck! feeling guilty does no good. If you have the will power to overcome several million years of evolution, cool! More for the rest of us. If you can stop f'ing to, cool! more for the rest of us. Thanks. . .



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  • higgsbosonhiggsboson Member Posts: 296
    Originally posted by Draenor


    I'm surprised at all the reports of unhealthy food...My high school probably had standard high school food, but none of it really made you want to throw up just from looking at it...I never touched the pizzza though, that stuff didn't look like my cup of tea. 
    Now my first year of college...wow...what an improvement in food...a modest meal plan could get you some GREAT food...big sandwiches made on the spot, chicken strips, you could get just about anything you wanted. It might not have been like shopping at one of those "all natural" stores, but it was definitely not the disgusting greese fest being described by others.
    You definitely must be talking about food quality in art department ... or any other department that houses disproportionate number of slim chick population.





    Index of food quality is directly proportional to the number of slim chicks that populate a given department.


  • albinofreakalbinofreak Member Posts: 449
    Originally posted by porgie

    Originally posted by albinofreak

    Man... almost one in three. Something should be done.
    I've tried to do something before.  But the choices are just too limited.  Whenever I go to the grocery store maybe 1 out of every 50 products on the shelf is an unprocessed product.  And then the manufacturers play their on going game of tricking the consumer.  I've read that products on the shelf that say "organic" may not even be organic.  I would love to buy the good food, but it's just not there.



    I did go to the Whole Foods store once to shop, but you have to be a millionaire to shop there.  The food looked tasty but it was way to expensive.  And even there I'm not so sure I trust the place to just mark up the price on a normal item to make it seem healthier.



    I think our economy is now based on processed foods.  We make enough to let us shop at the grocery store and buy that crap.  If you want to buy anything different you end up spending lots more on food and you're then forced back into the regular grocery store to make ends meet.



    Well when I said "Something should be done," I didnt mean individuals should do something... I meant a systematic response. But eating healthy doesnt necessarily mean just eating non-processed foods. Moderation, balanced diets, and exercise etc are good individual action that should be taken.

    But what I meant was a response by society in general... from government to private enterprise. There should be nutrtion classes in public school, more availability of healthy products at lower prices, so on and so forth. People should be socialized to learn how to feed their children healthy food and keep them in shape. People should also be socialized into realizing that diet pills, surgery, etc arent what you should be doing to lose weight. Government could subsidize healthy food (vegetables, lean meat, fruit, etc) while heavily taxing unhealthy food, because now healthy food is too expensive while crappy food is cheap as dirt.

    And before anyone says "But the government cant really do anything about the cost of food," you should look at the government's subsidy of the agricultural industry. These subsidies determine the price of food more than supply and demand does, so there is no reason to think that they couldnt manipulate it so that healthy food becomes more accessible.

  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918
    Originally posted by higgsboson

    Originally posted by Draenor


    I'm surprised at all the reports of unhealthy food...My high school probably had standard high school food, but none of it really made you want to throw up just from looking at it...I never touched the pizzza though, that stuff didn't look like my cup of tea. 
    Now my first year of college...wow...what an improvement in food...a modest meal plan could get you some GREAT food...big sandwiches made on the spot, chicken strips, you could get just about anything you wanted. It might not have been like shopping at one of those "all natural" stores, but it was definitely not the disgusting greese fest being described by others.
    You definitely must be talking about food quality in art department ... or any other department that houses disproportionate number of slim chick population.





    Index of food quality is directly proportional to the number of slim chicks that populate a given department.



    The school didn't have different foods for different departments...there were three or four places that you could go to eat, and the one I went to was called "Union"..it was essentially an underground restaraunt.  The University that I went to in my freshman year was actually most well known for its Physical Therapy and Drama departments.

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • Fa|conFa|con Member Posts: 57
    BMI isn't an indicator of percent body fat. You could be a professional body builder and have the same BMI as an extremely obese man.
  • FilipinoFuryFilipinoFury Member Posts: 1,056
    Originally posted by Fa|con

    BMI isn't an indicator of percent body fat. You could be a professional body builder and have the same BMI as an extremely obese man.
    Thats exactly what I wrote above but people are to lazy to read.





    The problem with a government using the Body Mass Index as a barometer of health, it's basically saying if you weigh a certain amount relative to your height you can tell how healthy you are. The BMI was invented by a 19th Century Belgian mathematician trying to tie 19th Century body statistics to 19th Century Sociology. It wasn't even meant to tell Belgians in 1840 what they were supposed to weigh let alone tell 21st Century individuals if there in shape. If you calculate by BMI's height and weight formula Bradd Pitt and Micheal Jordan are over weight and Russel Crow and George Clooney are obese. Another flaw in the government using the BMI as a barometer of health for the population is that it basically says everybody needs to be a certain weight within a certain height range to be healthy. So like most variations in individuals, height, hairstyle, cock size, peoples weights relative to there health are going to fall on kind of continuum. For some people who are naturally thin being thin is a good weight for others who are naturally heavy being heavy is a good weight.



    Your family tree has lots of variables but there are two things we know for sure every single one of your ancestors fucked and ate everything in site. Your here because they were wired to be obese and promiscuous, naturally your DNA is telling you to do what made your family a winner in all the past generations, surprisingly few years ago. If you didnt want more kids you'd have to try to stop f'ing. Then along comes science and suddenly no more problems, with surgery or contraceptives you could fuck as much as your monkey brain wanted without finding your self up to the neck with monkeys. Now we got plenty of food and the obesity society is telling us to stop eating. We were wired to eat! But if we dont stop eating now were up to our necks in chins. Fuck! feeling guilty does no good. If you have the will power to overcome several million years of evolution, cool! More for the rest of us. If you can stop f'ing to, cool! more for the rest of us. Thanks. . .



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  • FugnudzFugnudz Member Posts: 480
    Originally posted by gnomexxx

    How fat is America you ask?  Or, should I say, compared to other countries, how does America "size up". 



    Well, check the chart.



    upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Bmi30chart.png



    I heard on the t.v. the other day that the kids today are the first generation not expected to outlive their parents.  Nice fat plump kiddies. 

    I think the witch is behind it!  Haaaanzel???

    Well, I was going to say the chart shows the fattest nations as being those most industrious (and able to afford to eat better).  That is, until I saw Mexico near the top of the list.
  • nomadiannomadian Member Posts: 3,490

    weird, would have thought Hungary would have been top.

  • porgieporgie Member Posts: 1,516
    Originally posted by albinofreak

    Originally posted by porgie

    Originally posted by albinofreak

    Man... almost one in three. Something should be done.
    I've tried to do something before.  But the choices are just too limited.  Whenever I go to the grocery store maybe 1 out of every 50 products on the shelf is an unprocessed product.  And then the manufacturers play their on going game of tricking the consumer.  I've read that products on the shelf that say "organic" may not even be organic.  I would love to buy the good food, but it's just not there.



    I did go to the Whole Foods store once to shop, but you have to be a millionaire to shop there.  The food looked tasty but it was way to expensive.  And even there I'm not so sure I trust the place to just mark up the price on a normal item to make it seem healthier.



    I think our economy is now based on processed foods.  We make enough to let us shop at the grocery store and buy that crap.  If you want to buy anything different you end up spending lots more on food and you're then forced back into the regular grocery store to make ends meet.



    Well when I said "Something should be done," I didnt mean individuals should do something... I meant a systematic response. But eating healthy doesnt necessarily mean just eating non-processed foods. Moderation, balanced diets, and exercise etc are good individual action that should be taken.

    But what I meant was a response by society in general... from government to private enterprise. There should be nutrtion classes in public school, more availability of healthy products at lower prices, so on and so forth. People should be socialized to learn how to feed their children healthy food and keep them in shape. People should also be socialized into realizing that diet pills, surgery, etc arent what you should be doing to lose weight. Government could subsidize healthy food (vegetables, lean meat, fruit, etc) while heavily taxing unhealthy food, because now healthy food is too expensive while crappy food is cheap as dirt.

    And before anyone says "But the government cant really do anything about the cost of food," you should look at the government's subsidy of the agricultural industry. These subsidies determine the price of food more than supply and demand does, so there is no reason to think that they couldnt manipulate it so that healthy food becomes more accessible.

    Uhhhhmmmm...  I don't think I want to depend on the government as much as you.  I'd really rather take care of this myself.  Even as hard as it is finding food to eat that is healthy at the grocery store, getting the government involved is only going to make matters worse.

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  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918
    Originally posted by nomadian


    weird, would have thought Hungary would have been top.

    *does a rim shot*

    As the son of a Hungarian immigrant, I declare war on you.

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • MylonMylon Member Posts: 975
    Originally posted by porgie

    Uhhhhmmmm...  I don't think I want to depend on the government as much as you.  I'd really rather take care of this myself.  Even as hard as it is finding food to eat that is healthy at the grocery store, getting the government involved is only going to make matters worse.
    Unprocessed does not equal healthy.  I eat processed foods all of the time and I'm a healthy weight.  The trick is that I avoid consuming excessive amounts of calories and I choose healthy foods.  Those Banquet microwave dinners aren't the best nutrition, but I only eat 1 and combine it with a cup of yogurt (Zomg!  Processed!) and some fruit or fruit juice as opposed to eating a second one.



    I also try to avoid soda.  Soda, like many other foods, contains high fructose corn syrup which is dangerous because it contains calories but does not fill one up.  Whereas one may drink two cans of soda and not feel "full", a similar amount of calories of orange juice is filling.  Just think of it this way: 8 cans sodas is enough calories for an entire day.  Also, beware of fruit drink products.  Minute maid, Cranberry products (can't remember the name, but they're mostly cran-mixes), and more are frequently made using a portion of juice and high fructose corn syrup.  High fructose corn syrup probably will have no effect if you can count calories rigidly and stop even if you don't feel full.  Unfortunately I prefer following gut feelings, as they're simpler, so I avoid high fructose corn syrup so I feel full when I am full, not after I've gorged.



    Also avoid trans-fats.  These are not processed well by the human body and are stored more easily than other forms of calories.  They also contribute significantly to cholesterol production.  The amount of cholesterol contained in foods is practically meaningless as most is produced by the body, so one must consider instead what turns into cholesterol rather than cholesterol intake.  These culprits would be Saturated fats and Trans fats.



    A good thing health wise is, surprisingly enough, chocolate.  Chocolate is an appetite suppressant.  An ounce of dark chocolate (not an entire candy bar!) can sometimes be had in lieu of a snack or as a way to push back a meal.



    Do not shy away from processed foods.  Just keep in mind your calorie intake!

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