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JUST MORE OF THE SAME
Berndr
Member Posts: 185
Is Lotro a good game, yes it is. it has a great graphic, nice storyline and game mechanic not any different from the other games out there…
You don’t do anything different in this game then what you would do in EQ2, WOW or AC etc….
Not talking about little differences that give each of those games a flavour to fit its own universe ,,
But if you got bored of one of those games it want take long before you are bored with the others as well .
Because they are all the same product in different wrapping paper .
the same things in different settings ….
What people needs is a MMO world that feels alive, and it will only feel alive and real if players have an impact on it .
World in which depending on players decision, surrounding and condition of the world change accordingly.
Meaning if they free a mine from orcs it needs to stays that way till orcs come back and try to take it back …. Not just silly simple re-spawning.
Population and migration of monsters also should be changing and depending on players acts… Players should be able ither to become good or evil , (free will)
To be able to bicome Heros or Villans , known to whole Server, once someone become known villan , there should be price for their heads or any other quests that would evolve around players, players build cities …
Crafting .......similarly to war craft or settlers if they chopped off the tree then its gone until they plant it back….build cities , destroy them etc
Players GUILD SHOULD FIGHT FOR POWER AND CONTROL OF THE CITIES.
the most powerful guild should become the government and rule the town , decide on how government money is spent , safety, war or economy ,,,, meaning do they pay for more guards to walk along the city road protecting people , do we put more guards in guards posts outside the town in area we control , do they invest in more shops etc.... did I mention controlling lands ?????
from the dawn of civilisation , people were fighting for land and wished to control whole world, no matter do we play pve or pvp , people need to be able to take over , free or lose a land .. Either by PC or NPc players.
What I am saying it should matter what a single player does and especially a large group of them …..
And it these kinds of games it never does.
You only keep killing monsters just in order to level and t be able to kill 1 level higher monster then you could previously,,, no matter what you do they will still re-spawn on the same place , say the same things and bore you to hell
But they still keep making games with the same formula it obviously makes money ... or they just dont care what people wants
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Wow, what a long rant about absolutely nothing. Can I have those 2 minutes back?
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well is that all an archaic brain has to tell .... you obviously just descoverd mmo
the fact is..... you woke up to late ..... the world has been already outdated
well use your 2 min to log in into wow and play it
Yeah, about all MMOs are the same--and LotRO is no different.
People should realize that no game is going to be fun forever--you move on when you get bored. Before you get bored, it's largely up to the players to create their own fun things in the game--and those will be different for different players. Some like guild drama, some like PvP, some like crafting or PvE while others just want to explore, not to mention those RP people who want to create their own stories and don't tend to care much about the game mechanics.
Over time--if you only pay for an MMO while you're enjoying it and that lasts for a few months, then the time spent there will be more cost effective than the same time buying single-player games. Why? Because after the initial purchase of the game, you continue (in theory) to have things to do while paying only a small monthly fee. Most single-player games have maybe 30-40 hours of content, tops--and that's for the average player. So to equal an MMO you'd have to buy a new game every month or even every few days. Clearly an MMO offers much more value for the money over time.
Just recognize that eventually, all things come to an end and it's then time to move on to another game. Hopefully, though, you've gotten your money's worth of enjoyment rather than just complaining the whole time.
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I wonder if the people on the "Chess" forums constantly complain about the game being the same?
Do people on the "Wheel" forums argue about whether a round wheel needs changing?
Let's face it, there is a "formula of fundamentals" that gains acceptance and makes money. If you want your concept to thrive, you wrap yourself around that formula and grow around it. I see new things like MP and the Shire quests involving "hostile quest thwarters: rooster, nosy hobbits, hungry hobbits".
Turbine has and will continue to innovate using revenue from subscribers that flock to the game because it has the "formula of fundamentals."
There are plenty of other games out there trying to be totally innovative and muscling each other for the least bit of attention by players. And when they do get that attention they tank in the reviews because they are hard to identify with.
What I would really love to see Turbine do is bring some of the dungeon dynamics (puzzles, traps, platform areas:jumping) tech from AC into LoTRo. I really haven't seen dungeon romps like that since that game. Now they are all about mob killing rather than timing and teamwork.
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LoTRo - L13 Dwarf Guardian
Yes another MMO wishlist, please sir take a number and get in line.
While we’re at it I want a hydrogen powered car that flies, gets 100 miles per gallon (or fuel cell) and pilots itself. Clearly the only reason the auto industry has not produced this wonder is that they are lazy and don’t care “what people wants”.
To the OP -
There actually are games that incorporate a lot of the features you are looking for.
Personally, I'd rather that the strongest guild NOT control the town, since the strongest guild is often the people without jobs who just play all the time and think they're better than everyone else, for example.
And I LIKE that my tree respawns by itself, I don't want to have to plant another one and wait so someone else can come chop it down while I'm at work, you see?
Thats just a little bit too much reality for me.
Gaming? That's not gaming!
That's just people sat 'round in costumes drinking...
LOTRO for the mostpart is nothing new.... but
It has one thing at its core that is different than most MMOs out there.
The storyline and thus the hook.
The epic questline which takes you from level 1 to level 50 is the hook rather than the item driven games like WoW where it is only as fun as your next item of level. Most people that i play LOTRO with don't even realize when they level, or care. Its almost secondary in some strange way to the storyline.
It may not be for everyone, but it is unique in its story driven approach.
-Allegria
One thing that I like is that your 'level', as you said Allegra, is not as important.
You have so many deeds that you can do, to earn traits ...
I mean there'd be a very real difference between someone who powergrinds to level 50, and someone who takes the time to do all the quests and deeds because doing these things give you traits that improve your character, and these can make quite the difference.
I like that I feel like I can accomplish something even if I can't find a group - I can still go to lower level zones and work on my deeds - and be progressing something.
Gaming? That's not gaming!
That's just people sat 'round in costumes drinking...
How true this is... and one of the reasons I like the game so much.
I have been in fellowships before where people are yelling congrats at me and it takes me a minute to realize I just leveled.
The story is the hook. Weapons and armor in this game aren't give a fantasy flare, this decreases people's desire to acquire better loot and focus more on the story, which in my opinion is written very well.
Yes i do know about age of conan and at the moment that game is the only light at the end of tunnel ......
I did applay for beta as well , and also will play lotre till age of conan comes out ,,, but that in november
LOTRO is a great game, and I plan on enjoying it very much. However, if something else comes along, that breaks the mold, and does it right, Im there.
Like someone else said, we all have wish lists for what our ideal MMO should have. Maybe some dev people will listen, and incorporate these good ideas, and make that genre breaking MMO for us to play. But, its an evolution. We will get there at some point I think. And perhaps with baby steps.
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2) EQI (Scars of Velious) & (Planes of Power)
Now..does LOTRO bringing anything new to the genre? certainly not. That being said, it's nice that even in 2007 some publishers & dev's still find storyline an important part of their titles.
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WAR, Conan, Huxley, those games are the innovators, and it remains to be seen if they can break the trend of innovative game design failing to work. LotR is not trying to be one .Its trying to make switching over to it as easy as possible. I may not agree, you may not agree, but thats the way turbine did it. After all, their last 2 MMO attempts were quite a failure, so they probably need to get this to pay.
I agree with the OP though, I was a little interested in Lotr (mostly just because it is Lotr), but this just feels too similar to WoW to have any lasting appeal; they didn't take it in enough new directions.
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Pfft! No way!
Aww... you got me... *kicks the ground*
Most games today, not just MMOs, suffer from the same problem: lack of creativity. In fact, its the same in the movie business with most movies following a specific successful formula just with a different "skin" or story on it.
You remind me something of a friend of mine said when I showed him Farcry on my fancy new computer (Farcry was a well known FPS that came out around 3 years ago). You know what he said? "I don't see anything different in this game except for the graphics. You just have a gun and you shoot people in 3rd person." Lol. That is the definition of the FPS genre. Its like saying every soccer game is the same because you just have 11 players kicking the ball around.
Most MMOs follow the same formula for a reason. People like it and its very suitable for online play. Plus it seems very successful. There were a few developers that tried something different but most failed miserably. Even Turbine tried to be different with DDO. I loved the game but I quit since there were not enough people playing it. The ones that still play will swear by it and will never go back to WOW / LOTRO / EQ / EQ2.... type of combat. They love the twitch combat system and so did I. But I can't blame Turbine for sticking with the regular MMO formula while still making changes to almost each aspect of the game.
I enjoy LOTRO because its a different world for me to explore. One I have 1-2 character maxed, seen all the world and done all the quests I will move along to a new MMO. Just as I did with WOW. But no one will take away the fun I had in the process.
You my friend seem just burned with the standard MMO games or with gaming in general. Take a few months pause and come back again. The more revolutionary games such as Age of Conan, Warhammer and The Chronicles of Spellborn should be released by then. See if you will have more fun with them. If not, perhaps its time for a new hobby. I recommend photography.