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what was swg nge

laserbrainlaserbrain Member UncommonPosts: 36
what did the nge entail and why was it so bad

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  • rob1101rob1101 Member Posts: 263
    *puts on flame suit* it might get hot in here
  • airborne519airborne519 Member Posts: 542
    I'm sure it's fine to those that have never played SWG prior to the NGE.... To us Vets that like me started with this game on day 1, it was the death of a game that we devoted countless hours of our lives building a character.  Years of work to be wiped clean for a dumbed down version of a game we loved.

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  • freethinkerfreethinker Member UncommonPosts: 775
    first,



    think of the best caramel cone Haagen Dazs ice cream you ever tasted.





    now, think of  some frost-burn lemon sorbet that's been open in your freezer for 5 mos.







    there's the difference.



    now byebye.



    /runs far away from thread.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by laserbrain

    what did the nge entail and why was it so bad
    Well, let me first say that I don't think NGE is all that bad. its inferior to pre-NGE, no doubt about that, but its still decent.



    I think the real problem, and the real thing fans are mad about, is the fact that LA/SOE CHANGED the game so much. Had SOE release NGE as "SWG 2" or any other title, then there wouldn't even be a problem. But what LA/SOE did was is replacing a game people liked to play without even asking if players wanted that, and made it comething completely diffrent.
  • jerksonjerkson Member Posts: 106
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by laserbrain

    what did the nge entail and why was it so bad
    Well, let me first say that I don't think NGE is all that bad. its inferior to pre-NGE, no doubt about that, but its still decent.



    I think the real problem, and the real thing fans are mad about, is the fact that LA/SOE CHANGED the game so much. Had SOE release NGE as "SWG 2" or any other title, then there wouldn't even be a problem. But what LA/SOE did was is replacing a game people liked to play without even asking if players wanted that, and made it comething completely diffrent.

    Mwhaahhaa *breath* hahaha.. ok if NGE was released as SWG 2, 95% of the community back then would've stayed with SWG and the 5% would prolly choose SWG2 (As you call it here) because they find the classic one "Too hard" cause it actually takes just abit of brain to get into things.. This is where games like wow comes into the picture, do ya have to think? not at all. Do ya actually have to use your brain when crafting or surveing for resources? Not at all. I could continue but I decide not to, this post was not meant for you, I simply went out from you persepctive of NGE being released as SWG2, then it would've been just as dead as it is today. If you're a true SWG veteran from the first days, then you would've known this.

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  • metatronicmetatronic Member Posts: 329
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by laserbrain

    what did the nge entail and why was it so bad
    Well, let me first say that I don't think NGE is all that bad. its inferior to pre-NGE, no doubt about that, but its still decent.



    I think the real problem, and the real thing fans are mad about, is the fact that LA/SOE CHANGED the game so much. Had SOE release NGE as "SWG 2" or any other title, then there wouldn't even be a problem. But what LA/SOE did was is replacing a game people liked to play without even asking if players wanted that, and made it comething completely diffrent. Thats right there would of been no problem because only the people who couldn't unlock their lightsabers would of played this swg2 (NGE) , while the rest of us enjoyed the game.. Then after 2 months of figuring out how badly they sucked, they would of returned to maybe unlock a real jedi, in a real combat system
  • goomba667goomba667 Member Posts: 43
    Originally posted by laserbrain

    what did the nge entail and why was it so bad
    It was the end of a dream

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  • freebirdpatfreebirdpat Member Posts: 568

    Imagine playing a game of chess, and in the middle of the game, the game is changed to checkers and the guy that changed it is trying to tell you that this is an improvement, its simpler, more fun, and look every piece can be and normally is a king(jedi),

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    If you really want to start a riot...errr get some in depth replies...go ask this on the SWG forum thread with the veterens.

     

  • EichenkatzeEichenkatze Member Posts: 340
    I miss that game... It truly was a great thing.



    Spending my life from its launch to '05 with so many people. Growing a friends list to 150..

    working on doctor/ranger for a year and a half because i was too lazy to grind and would rather socialize.



    Pre-NGE SWG had an amazing community. The best i've ever been with. If you didn't want to play... hit the Cantina and make a friend or two. Buy a dancer a drink and have some fun. I spent alot of time in the game just buzzing around talking to people. Doing fun things in the game and semi-roleplaying to pass the time.

    I never got bored of the game. So much to explore.. so much to do.. and with the almost-perfect system.



    Too bad its all gone now.



    edit:



    Oh yes.

    The NGE revamped the game entirely.





    -turned SWG's combat system from your standard MMO of Target>Attack>Special attacks to a first person shooter version of the game. While many argue this isn't what killed the game. It was still a serious blow to the system.



    - Changed the game from its origional 32+ professions to 9.



    -Origional concept of the game "Tell the greatest star wars saga ever told... YOURS" as it said to the end of the installation of the game.. to "Play the greatest heroes of the Star wars Movies"

    (I don't know about any one else.. but the idea of being able to play out my own creation in the star wars universe is what drew me the most to the game when it was first released)



    -Uglified the user interface



    -made jedi available to everyone. Instead of being post-ANH era.. it became the Jedi vs. Sith era of Kotor with the wrong date and time setting... Before the NGE and CU. Jedi was an accomplishment. Something to be proud of. It meant you worked your butt off for that lightsaber of yours.. the life of a jedi was hard too. Constant bountys on your head and players coming in for some action. Not anymore.



    -Alot of old plans to enhance the game fun-wise and playability wise.. such as the idea of capital ships for players and smuggling for smugglers had been dropped and completely destroyed. (though they did get a crap form of smuggling way down the road i hear)



    -Nerfed just about every combat system



    -Made the game easy enough for a toddler to master in a day or two



    -Bio-engineers and Creature handlers went extinct. They removed them from the game. No more mountable pets. No more kimo pets at the starport. No nothing for pets.



    -Put SOE in the hole with a LARGE portion of its community.



    -Totally destroyed the Old SWGs unique and exceptional crafting system.



    -Put so many new Bugs into the game.



    -Destroyed the community of SWG. My once proud 150+ friends list for instance.. went from about 100-120 on a day... to 2 or 3 if i was lucky.





    Thats all i can really think of right now.

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  • jerksonjerkson Member Posts: 106
    Originally posted by Torak


    If you really want to start a riot...errr get some in depth replies...go ask this on the SWG forum thread with the veterens.
     



    Yea cause they're the real veterans right?  dude get a clue please will ya? The people there still playing are exactly the people we're talking about, accepting what SOE did, no matter what they say, still playing, equals accepting, that doesnt make em vets, sorry. Then there are those of us, who put in so much hard work, and got nothing but a pile of garbage thrown back at us, who refuses to support the game anymore, and say, bring back the game we all loved, or burn in , well Im sure you get the picture.

    (And yea Im still active from time to time on the official forums aswell, not writing much, except when I can whine in a thread that states NGE, CU and so on has made the game better , and I never see any true SwG players! Cause all there, have accepted the new game, which in my opinion, got nothing to do with what I know as Starwars Galaxies!)

    R.I.P SwG Pre-CU - What used to be the best MMORPG and always will be.

     

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  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905
    Originally posted by jerkson

    Originally posted by Torak


    If you really want to start a riot...errr get some in depth replies...go ask this on the SWG forum thread with the veterens.
     



    Yea cause they're the real veterans right?  dude get a clue please will ya? The people there still playing are exactly the people we're talking about, accepting what SOE did, no matter what they say, still playing, equals accepting, that doesnt make em vets, sorry. Then there are those of us, who put in so much hard work, and got nothing but a pile of garbage thrown back at us, who refuses to support the game anymore, and say, bring back the game we all loved, or burn in , well Im sure you get the picture.

    (And yea Im still active from time to time on the official forums aswell, not writing much, except when I can whine in a thread that states NGE, CU and so on has made the game better , and I never see any true SwG players! Cause all there, have accepted the new game, which in my opinion, got nothing to do with what I know as Starwars Galaxies!)

    R.I.P SwG Pre-CU - What used to be the best MMORPG and always will be.

     

    LoL, see what I mean?

    Build a bridge man, its old already. SOE is a sh*t company, deal with it. Don't play their damn, buggy, broken, unfinished, overpriced games.

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    The thing with Pre-CU SWG was it was uniq.

    No game had anything close to its features, player houses that you could fill will furniture and paintings, the crafting system needed you to spend alot of time to get resourses.....you had always something to do, thats really matters.

    Chartacter creation that was years before every MMO. If you run into a player in the tatooine desert, you had no idea what skills that person had ,except armour and weapon or if the player had a title he/she was proud of to show.. 

    Flexible skill system, you could do anything you wanted to do....and change if you wanted.....another reason you always had something to do.

     

    The NGE just made a poor WoW clone of SWG.

    And guess what, the people playing SWG was the ones that didnt like the WoW system

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
    The NGE no longer really exists, the only parts of it that are really still around is the streamlined professions and the option to use the twitch based targeting. 

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