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Without Bonus XP, EQ2 is unplayable for me (casual)
tuccos
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I cant find the will to play any of my toons without Bonus XP anymore. The infinite grinding and doing same things over and over make me tired of this game.
I am questing Kill MOB x for the 99iest time.
I am grinding Kill Kill Kill Kill
my necro is L48 with 100% bonus, its even to slow with bonus xp now.i dont play him anymore.
my wizard is L33 and i can only play him with bonus xp, mobs got so many HP that as wizard i need 50% mana every kill.
I have 2-3 hours a day and i honestly would like to play, my problem on GUK is that the most people are Level 60+.
In the last 4 weeks of my re-activated subscribtion of my 1007 days old account i have grouped ONE time. ONE !! time, the rest i had to spend solo.
EQ2 got horrible for me, casual playing is a pain without Bonus XP. I wont ever reach Level 70.
the only solution is to Quit ???
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Me I have burned thru a few MOMO's in my day AC for 2 years , EQ for 4 years , EQ2 2 years , WOW 2 years plus at least 6-10 MMO's that lasted a few months each so I know the pain of burnout & I have come to realize that I will most likely never feel the rush of playing something new like the first time I was chased out of Butcherblock by those stupid dwarfs or the time down in Lower Guk with waves of mobs coming or that first God kill after a 60 minute fight with 40 of you guildies , I have never played a Sci-fi MMO so X fingers I can feel something akin to past feeling with Stargate Worlds or Startrek Online are released ...
Even the feeling of closing an account isn't there anymore , I remember closing my EQ account I had 6 lvl 60's & believe me it was the hardest thing online I have ever done it was very painful , but now closing accounts is easy , I just closed WOW with 2 lvl 70's & 6 lvl 60+ & I felt nothing , it wasn't that I didnt love the game its just it wasn't a new feeling to close it down there was no pain ..
EDIT: Get up to low to mid 50's and there is a bunch of group dungeons in DoF to group in and you can start hunting Cyclops in groups too.
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Btw, I beta'd LOTRO. It SUCKS in a massive way. HUGE HUGE disappointment and waste of time.
I'd still play this game if it didnt takes months to get another toon to 70.. and dont anyone give me that crap that you can solo to lvl to 70 in a week.. sorry it ain't happening.. The game has a pre-manufactured time sink which deters 80% of the people who would like to play from staying around for very long.. Its too bad sony doesn't understand that the fun in this game isn't grinding from level 1-70... Its gearing that level 70 toon and attaining all your master spells and class gear that make it fun.. Not running piss-ant quests for 3 hrs that give very little in terms of reward for the amount of time invested..
Furthermore, I would like to add that I recently downloaded some diablo 2 clone called EUdemons MMO, and there was more people playing that crappy game then eq2 could ever imagine.. Yes it was Free to play with one of those shops games, but I still couldn't believe the amount of people playing it.
Maybe I'm just bitter that every time I log in an alt to grind a bit, theres no one to really group or play with sub 70 because everyone is raiding or running lvl 70 instances... Something needs to change with a game like EQ2 because it could be a great game if it had more people playing it at various levels.. Maybe they need to rethink their subscription model to something like 4.99/ month to attract the masses.. As it stands now, this game feels so barren to me. As far as I'm concerned sony has its own little shop too with all the adventure and expacks it puts out yearly, it really shouldn't be charging 15/month anyways with the money they make from those items..
And if you really think about the math 1 million people paying 4.99 a month = 4.9 million a month... 150k people at 15/month = 2,225,000 a month .. Simple economics there.. A lower monthly would attract more people.. And thats all I really care about, is people to actually play the game with since the game is setup to be so group dependent.
This game isn't WoW and that seems to be what you want. This game is about questing. Its not about levelling. Its about the journey, not the end.
Yeah, there's no one to play with because people don't want to grind. Most of them know that this game is questing or they don't play it.
What do you mean most people are "running level 70 instances"? Since when? Yes, there are some people up there but not most people.
I don't know where you've been playing but it doesn't seem like its the same game I have been.
I never thought I'd say this but you don't want to be here. This isn't the game for you. You don't seem to like anything about it?
Why not go to WoW where you'll be much happier. You can gain your levels at the drop of a hat, be level 60 in a month, and do nothing but raid all day for cooler gear so that you can raid some more.
When I played a lot i found finding a casual group team to be the best way, it may not be easy to find but often guilds help. Just find a group of people whom play around the same time everyday and are close or nearly the same level. This allows easy questing and elite grinding easier.
The games dead and dieing kid, get over yourself...
You probably wanna try some free trials of other games, there are plenty of fun games for different moods and playstyles out there.
Meridion
I don't feel you pain, or see your problem.
I play a level 23 and 43 character on Befallen. I don't think I've had to solo any content that I didn't want to. There may not be 8+ million people playing EQ2, I don't see hordes of players moving across the Commons, but I've never had problems finding pickup groups.
"Grinding" mobs is slow, you get bonus exp for doing quests - you also get rest bonus.
Oh, and "sitting for hours lfg" is prolly part of your problem. I've noticed that with EQ2 the chat channels are universal, only filtered by level. Alignment isn't an issue, but what about location? If you want a group, you need to be out in a specific zone, looking for players attempting to move through the same level quests you are - not out camping random_mob_01 x 15.
Just last night, running through the Enchanted Lands, looking for some pond with an overgrown trout in it, I ran across two other players looking for the same fish. We met, grouped and together not only found the fish, but followed up and completed the entire quest line - Gratz to us on getting the Evil Eye Bag!
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For people that like going solo in MMORPGs, this game is a total waste of time. Solo quests are unimaginative and artificial, you can see where they have been implemented to fit casuals' needs and where they were actually implemented in the game from the start. Plus, there are - except crafting, which you do in a crafting cellar and nowhere else - no options for off-combat.
This game is entirely circling aroung questing and grouping, and I see that it has a lot of fine aspects for combat-oriented group players, but please have the guts to tell this guy that he'd be better off playing a game that fits his playstyle more. Depending on what you really like this could be EvE or WoW or many titles in between. Just don't blindfold yourself, play as many trials as you can get, inform yourself. EQ2 is very obviously a game thats only partly for you. I realized that much too late myself
Meridion
The games dead and dieing kid, get over yourself... Nope. I think you're the one that needs to get over yourself. You just don't like it. So go elsewhere instead of annoying the people who do enjoy it. I've never had a problem finding a group. I've never seen "no one" on at any time of the day.
I think you're the one with the problem, so why stay just to harp on it?
You know, I don't like LOTRO. Terrible game. I beta'd it. I don't like WoW. One of the worst games out there and I don't know how its got so many sub's because it really is terrible. Yet, I didn't continue to play. I don't hang out on their forums just to tell everyone how bad the game is. I've moved on. You might like to consider the same. It shows an adult attitude.
I have played EQ2 and enjoyed it a lot, I've played WoW and enjoyed it, I've played EvE and enjoyed it. The egg of columbus here is - being flexible in what you get from playing a game. If you go into a game and say "wow, no housing, that game sucks" you will never appreciate the very fine other aspects it might have.
And to complete this circle, the OP realized just that, he took the most out of a game that doesn't fit all his needs, and if a need is "having people to group any time of the day for any task", EQ2 can not provide. And talking about such a subject in an EQ2 forum while expecting other people to be open-minded enough to understand is perfectly normal, along with debating opinions and expectations ^^
Meridion
P.S: Besides, that IS a EQ2 problem, finding groups for one special task at one special daytime is - in some cases - impossible. Sure, I can go runnyeye for 20 levels straight. But if I want/need a group for a low level raid or some heroic quest, the lfg-channel can prove a thoroughly empty place for hours. And this particular aspect of the game is very well solved in games like GW or WoW where grouping is pretty much never a problem...
The games dead and dieing kid, get over yourself...
Refer to this cupcakes other posts. Hes nothing more than a whiny brat. No merit at all.
Quest are just more killing of monsters. That's it. There aren't any puzzle quest, riddles you have to figure out, things you can talk your way out of, etc. Everywhere you go there is killing. This is what has annoyed the hell out of me when it comes to thinking about the name Everquest. There is a reason why EQ1 was called Neverquest cause you really don't quest at all. You get told to do certain things and almost always it has to do with killing. Killing as the purpose of the so called quest. Or killing to go pick something up and killing on your way back. If you have to collect something you have to kill some more. Not to single Everquest out for this, it's a problem with every mmorpg. You can't even craft without killing due to roaming monsters that aggro on you or places of resources nodes.
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My dog barks some. Mentally you picture my dog, but I have not told you the type of dog which I have. Perhaps you even picture Toto, from "The Wizard of Oz." But I warn you, my dog is always with me.
Not for nothing but I mannaged to get a Brig from 0-70 within the KoS timeline only... meaning that I created him post KoS launch and was capped out prior to EoF launch.
Little bit about me:
I have been 70 since prior to EoF but here is my EQ2 players profile: http://eq2players.station.sony.com/characters/character_profile.vm?characterId=318561111
~27 days played and that includes al the time post lv 70 that I have played.
EDIT: correction I created him prior to KoS but held off leveling him untill KoS to get AP points... forgot about that.
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This is just a lie, pure and simple. It's one thing to not like the game because you suck at it, like metatronic, but to actually come here and tell a bald face lie about it is another. You can level to at least, even over, 20th level without killing ONE SINGLE MOB. There is also SEVERAL quests, though not the majority, that do not include killing. I can do ONE quest in KoS that DOES NOT involve killing anything and push that 20th level to 30th.
Seriously, people don't like games for different reasons, and I can accept that, but don't come on here and tell lies and not think someone THAT ACTUALLY PLAYS THE GAME won't call you out. Plus, there are a lot more different styles of experience and questing than WoW EVER thought of, and tons better. I played WoW for 60 levels, and believe me, there are a LOT less avenues in that simpleton game than EQ2.
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EQ2 offers a few routes for XP:
1. Grind mobs/Kill quests, the quest is really jsut abonus XP on the same activity
2. Delivery quests
3. Buying your XP with collection quests
4. Exploration XP (this is not substantial however)
Like it or not, but those are the ways to get XP in EQ2. If you don't want to kill anything then you will be doing repetitive tiresome loading of screens for deliverys or using currency from a higher level character you already have.