Would you play on a new server?

hundejahre · April 2007

I played EVE for little while about a year ago, found it interesting but felt it too hard to get into anything with so many vets running around. Then I keep seeing all these threads about GM cheating (whether any of it is true or not it hurts the game).

So I ask you, if they created a new server that did not allow any character transfer what so ever and that GMs were banned by written company policy from playing on, would you play there? I'm going to break the poll up a bit so if you plan to vote please read for the correct catagory.

I also realize this is strictly "for fun" and I don't expect the devs to even know about this poll, let alone act on it.

SWGLover · April 2007

"that GMs were banned by written company policy from playing on"

Any game that needs to spell that out in writing is not worth playing, period.

Photec · April 2007

Hmmm I kinda think that since theirs only one server, not allowing the GM/devs to play on it would be a shame. However, if there was an option for me (new player) to start on a fresh server with no cheats/exploits and such, I`d do it. The vets would still have a leg up on us newbs since they`d know what to do in order to get ahead of the game already. They just wouldnt have such amazing amounts of cash and skills compared to the new players

damian7 · April 2007

i'm curious as to who all would go to the new server. i'm betting bod would stay. but i wonder how many "vets" would just sell their toons or retire them, and start fresh on the new server.

damian7 · April 2007

Originally posted by SWGLover

"that GMs were banned by written company policy from playing on"

Any game that needs to spell that out in writing is not worth playing, period.

the sad thing, is that only in games like eve, daoc, and a few others, WOULD they have to spell it out.

candyland games or the worldofraiding games -- ala eq-clone-wannabe-style -- who cares if devs play and cheat every day of the week? it REALLY doesn't matter, nor will it ever. what do you lose? you're not the first one with the uber sword of buttsmelling? you lost your 16 straight hours of raiding for the one item that you didn't get anyways?

daemon · April 2007

making a new server is an awesome idea. would bring EVE alot of new players and alot of old players back to playing.

they would have to give a faster start though. shorter skill training or something.

you should post this on the EVE forums maybe CCP will see the light.

Mors.Magne · April 2007

One of the best aspects of Eve is having one server - one big community.

Having more than one server is very short-sighted. How long before you want more new servers?

I don't have a problem with others having more skills than me - all the more challenge and triumph beating them. Perhaps you should regard the old players as raid bosses to be defeated by a team?

Excluding developers is just nasty - they are human beings like everyone else. They are the reason why this game is so good.

Thank the developers - don't punish them all because one did something wrong over three years ago.

Mors.Magne · April 2007

By the way, your survey is flawed. It doesn't give new players the option of wanting only one server.

This survey is just a loaded question.

Kurir · April 2007

You'd have to bring something else to the plate besides it just being a new server. Why switch just to have the same kind of stuff going on, make the new server offer something that you can't get on the current one. I think Eve could be a real contender in the market if they would just lighten up on the PvP aspect. Why not make the new server have the element of consensual PvP only, take the assholes out of the mix and let people just be able to play the game. I know of course this is going to draw flak from the those that enjoy being able to ass rape their fellow gamers but no one is saying that those that enjoy that kind of thing need to come to the new server.

If CCP really wanted to get some revenue coming in then they would cater to all of the potential subscribers instead of just the sociopaths out there.

Sramota · April 2007

One bad apple,
that's all there is.

EvE has always been about the One server.
It'll stay that way and it would be wrong to do it in any other way.

I personally really liked t20's messup, it sent the feebleminded packing right away and gave me more bandwith to abuse

Edit: Also - I wouldn't play a game that the developers don't play, ever.

peenk · April 2007

OP: I voted, New player and would sign up.

Although I am very skeptical.

At first, I think that this game would be awesome because you dont really have any grind in the game, that is you dont have to kill countless mobs just to lvl up. But then I heard that not a single person in game have reached a "max" lvl in game that is he/she does not have all of the skills that you are able to train and such. I do not know if this is true but this would be total turn off for me. I want a game where at least I could get some "maxed out" on my character(s).

So is this true, about no one in game having able to lvl all the skills so as to say: OK, this char is set and ready and I dont need to learn any skills anymore?

Sramota · April 2007

Originally posted by peenk
OP: I voted, New player and would sign up.
Although I am very skeptical.
At first, I think that this game would be awesome because you dont really have any grind in the game, that is you dont have to kill countless mobs just to lvl up. But then I heard that not a single person in game have reached a "max" lvl in game that is he/she does not have all of the skills that you are able to train and such. I do not know if this is true but this would be total turn off for me. I want a game where at least I could get some "maxed out" on my character(s).
So is this true, about no one in game having able to lvl all the skills so as to say: OK, this char is set and ready and I dont need to learn any skills anymore?

Total timed needed to max out all skills are set around ... What was it.. 23 years I think
(Yes, Real Time)

EvE however doesn't function on that level.
As far as skills go there are mostly about 5 in total per "area" of expertise (For example different types of guns, sizes of ships, mining, market knowledge, crafting, corporation management) which are rather quick to max out.

So, don't get too stuck up on the skills in EvE, in the end, it's all about who's pushing the buttons actually.

I've seen 1-2 month old characters kick the living daylight out of people with 1-2 years of leveling.
You get the idea

peenk · April 2007

Yeah but there is still none of that "maxed out" perspective.

I'll say what I said to my RLF with whom I usually buy/play games: I wish I bought EVE when it first came out.

Getting into the game now is not that worthwhile for me, reason being too many good games came out and will come out in the near future. New server does sound appealing though.

F'lar · April 2007

I would be totally aginst such a thing as a new server, that would take a portion of what is unique about EVE away.

I honestly could care less about what skills or equipment the other players have, I am more interested in bettering my caracters situation then worry about what the other player has.... at least for now .

When I do venture into 0.0 space THEN I will start to wonder what the other player has, and if it is useable to me . THAT is what EVE is about.

As for the topic of the OP on a new server there is no need for it, in any MMO out there you will ALWAYS have players that will use any means nessisary to win, the fact that the Developers play their game on a regular basis is amazing to me, the fact that a few of them cheat just shows me that they are weak and would not stand a chance if they didn't cheat and hold no challenge to me. So what if I lose a few ships they are replaceable, so what if I lose a few billion isk, that is to replaceable. I'm haveing fun and in the end THAT is what counts.

I use to play SWG and right after the NGE hit the ceo of sony Online Intertainment Smedly stated that if your not haveing fun with a game don't play it. And with EVE you need to have a twisted sence of fun to really enjoy it.

I would not be the least surprised that the Devs that cheated had very little OVERALL impact on the game and the fact that I personally have had no trouble selling my wares on the market or contracts shows me that they indeed had no effect on the game. The current war between BoB and the rest of the alliances can also be seen as evidence that the cheaters have little effect by the simple fact that the other alliances are holding their own, and in fact have been winning a few battles.

Aedosen · April 2007

I think new server would be a really bad idea. First it wouldn´t solve the "im too far behind" problem, yes it solve it temporarily but you can be 100% sure it would only take couple months max before the "im too far behind" threads and talk would start appearing again. Secondly and more importantly it would seriously threaten the health of Tranquility as most new players would start playing on the new server, TQ would have very limited inflow of new players which in worst case scenario could lead to TQ dying. Most importantly it would remove one of EVE main strengths which has been having just one server.

Arcticblue · April 2007

This topic comes up every other week on the official forums and gets flamed to death... what you guys don't think about is how many veterans is there really?

A survey or server log check have revealed that there is mostly players at around 10-15 million skillpoints... I'm at 40 million skillpoints after 3 years but there is only about 3000 people out of 150 000 subscribers that are 40 million skillpoints so veterans are a minority ...

There really is no need to a new server and as someone stated out in a few months after release of a new server people would complain again that they are too far behind... should you have a serverwipe every 3 months maybe ? would that be satisfactory for you guys ?

Or is it that "I am jealous of the veterans and I don't care about those who comes behind me but I want to be on the veterans list" mentality you all suffer from ?

Lets face it atleast half of the eve population are between 3 million and 15 million skillpoints maybe even more than half even...

Besides ... I don't play anylonger because of the dev thing, I don't want devs to NOT play the game I want CCP to be more consisted about how they run their game... things that bugger me is how favorism runs deep here and especially towards BoB...

Questions CCP refuse to answer is Why ban Kuguts for revealing real life information about SirMolle while letting SirMolle and BoB leaders off the hook for doing the same thing as Kuguts.

Why did they not punish BoB for they having the bpo's in their possesion for over 6 months while they punish any other that use a exploit to gain some isk, I have seen people having 1 billion isk negative on their wallet they can't buy shit because of that!!!!!! but still it is okey because they used a exploit but it is not okey to not punish BoB for using a exploit.

Now the latest they banned RA pilots for not reporting a bug and use of a bug to gain billion of isk from a bugged complex... however aparently they have not punished BoB pilots for using a bugged complex... only one of BoB's friend was cool enough to report the bug.

and why do they let some bug or exploits become a feature instead... they don't punish people who uses the feature "Crash the nodes"... once they start to punish people hard... it will stop being used.

Mcgreag · April 2007

That poll will show you nothing, it's missing options. What if you are a new or returning player and want to play on the existing server, what are you supposed to vote on?

Biased polls ftl.

trentonx · April 2007

Originally posted by Sramota

One bad apple,

that's all there is.
EvE has always been about the One server.

It'll stay that way and it would be wrong to do it in any other way.
I personally really liked t20's messup, it sent the feebleminded packing right away and gave me more bandwith to abuse
Edit: Also - I wouldn't play a game that the developers don't play, ever.

cheers

and the only thing I'm worried about is what happens when the game has double the player base. I mean I don't want eve to become known as the waiting mans mmo

trentonx · April 2007

Originally posted by peenk

Yeah but there is still none of that "maxed out" perspective.

I'll say what I said to my RLF with whom I usually buy/play games: I wish I bought EVE when it first came out.

Getting into the game now is not that worthwhile for me, reason being too many good games came out and will come out in the near future. New server does sound appealing though.

you can max out skills

battle cruisers lvl 5 in 10 hours woot

gunnery lvl 5

small auto cannons lvl 5

You can MAX out all of the combat skills. and have no more combat skills to train.

so frigates will be maxed out. which some of those skills will help max out battleships.

hell I could get into a new shiny ship in 200 days, command ships maxed out.

or keep lvling my frigate up. to the MAX.

Now where EVE makes it seem like there is no "MAX" is in the fact that if this were a WoW, it would have about 60 classes. more even. so you MAX out any of those 60 skills and have NOWHERE to go in about a years time. and then other skills after that in like 2 months to another year to max.

titans for instance. are meant to be silly and not cost effitive. they take 3 years to max out alone.

so inother words yyou can MAX out what you want to max out. but you won't be a lvl 99 everything like in final fantasy onlline by grinding.

it pervents that while letting those skills help out the different ship types and jbs you can have.

mindw0rk · April 2007

I see no reason in new server. The more people playing on Tranquility - the better. Just make the universe constantly growing so everyone was spread out

Moobkrad · April 2007

All this comes from people that think that a new person cannot fight a vet. But it ain't completely true. I know vets which are focus on industry or mining and have their combat skills are similar to that of a new person. Also my friend just started a month and a half ago and is already fighting 1 or 2 years vets. Win some or lose some. It's certainly possible. Then you have those vets which have a lot of skills but don't know how to use them properly.

PvP in EVE is part skills, part experience, part pilot's wits.

Oh yeah, I voted NO!

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