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DDO has BEST combat you'll find
Vaedur
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I am a mmo vet (Asheron's call, EQ, EQII, LOTR(beta), DDo, WOW, DAOC, SWG) ..
I played wow pretty hardcore till about a year ago and had it all hit me like a ton of bricks. WoW is the major leagues of mmo. Unfortunately i have already max out characters, had 5k gold, epic mounts on alts, 300 skill enchanter who made money like thier was no tomorrow, etc.. etc.. and learned the hard truth, all wow was a game that was a contest of how much time you could put in and a mmo on EASY mode. IN all seriousness, wow had some of the easiest gameplay of any mmo i've ever played. Then again that's what made it so popular.
So i spuddered around the last year trying to find a New but old mmo to satisfy my rpg needs.. With the death of madden on the x360, counsol games wasn't an option. Oblivion? fun for a bit, but no realy challange, and a horrible levevling system? EQII? not a bad game, but when all damage is skill based, what's the point of being a meele class? DAOC lack of content, but RvR was a blast. SWG? i got my tiefighter outfit and tiefighter, flew a mission, and unsubbed (heck i still have my key for the full version, anyone wanna trade it for a VG trial? lol) LOTR? WoW with pipesmokin' ... DDO? HOLY FLAMING DOG POO... the game is awesome. COmbat is crazy, I"m swinging wildly at the oncoming horde of kobolds (yes, you can just swing, no more tab/hit 1 to autoattack(but you can)) and boom! incomes a darkness type spell and I CAN'T SEE i'm fighting these badguys in darkness.. awesome.. the whole game is like that, amazing game, unforunately ...... you need to do everything with groups and put in too much time for a casual gamer like myself.. but on nights when you got 3+ hrs to kill you can NOT find a better mmo experience out there.. sure i'm gonna get flamed, but i've played them all. DDo is honestly the best combat system of them all.. amazing, i'm in love...
..and unforntunately i don't have the time except for maybe a weekend here or there to really play..
Hope this helps atleast one person feel better about the MMO rut i see most of us are in..
vae
flame me for my random rant....go ahead..
I played wow pretty hardcore till about a year ago and had it all hit me like a ton of bricks. WoW is the major leagues of mmo. Unfortunately i have already max out characters, had 5k gold, epic mounts on alts, 300 skill enchanter who made money like thier was no tomorrow, etc.. etc.. and learned the hard truth, all wow was a game that was a contest of how much time you could put in and a mmo on EASY mode. IN all seriousness, wow had some of the easiest gameplay of any mmo i've ever played. Then again that's what made it so popular.
So i spuddered around the last year trying to find a New but old mmo to satisfy my rpg needs.. With the death of madden on the x360, counsol games wasn't an option. Oblivion? fun for a bit, but no realy challange, and a horrible levevling system? EQII? not a bad game, but when all damage is skill based, what's the point of being a meele class? DAOC lack of content, but RvR was a blast. SWG? i got my tiefighter outfit and tiefighter, flew a mission, and unsubbed (heck i still have my key for the full version, anyone wanna trade it for a VG trial? lol) LOTR? WoW with pipesmokin' ... DDO? HOLY FLAMING DOG POO... the game is awesome. COmbat is crazy, I"m swinging wildly at the oncoming horde of kobolds (yes, you can just swing, no more tab/hit 1 to autoattack(but you can)) and boom! incomes a darkness type spell and I CAN'T SEE i'm fighting these badguys in darkness.. awesome.. the whole game is like that, amazing game, unforunately ...... you need to do everything with groups and put in too much time for a casual gamer like myself.. but on nights when you got 3+ hrs to kill you can NOT find a better mmo experience out there.. sure i'm gonna get flamed, but i've played them all. DDo is honestly the best combat system of them all.. amazing, i'm in love...
..and unforntunately i don't have the time except for maybe a weekend here or there to really play..
Hope this helps atleast one person feel better about the MMO rut i see most of us are in..
vae
flame me for my random rant....go ahead..
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Funny that's the exact reason why I hated the game.
I had a mob incoming and it was so clumsy trying to target the mob. The graphics were so so and overall I just found the game lacking.
My initial experiences with DDO were enjoyable but not what I expected from a D&D title. Sure the combat can be entertaining, but it can also be repetitive, predictable and trigger happy, entirely what you would expect of an FPS, NOT a roleplay game. And not to mention the fact,the nature of the combat system, the introduction of voice chat and the way in which experience works in DDO encourages Blitzing*. This does not make for entertaining gaming.
Nice to see somebody enjoys it though...
*Blitzing: When a person or group attempts to complete a mission/quest as fast as possible without any regard or concern for self/group safety.
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The only reason it's good to you is because the monster move around, but pretty much they are doing the same thing monsters do in other games. Anyway, when I last played in November, I remember having a sore index finger from pressing tab so much because that's the only strategy worthwhile that my fighter had.
The only reason it's good to you is because the monster move around, but pretty much they are doing the same thing monsters do in other games. Anyway, when I last played in November, I remember having a sore index finger from pressing tab so much because that's the only strategy worthwhile that my fighter had. Aaah, Lastera, nice to see you again. Still on the holy crusade? .. guess so.
I just have to ask why are you using tab or trying to target the enemies when you are a melee class? The only people who actually have to target creatures are spellcasters or people using a bow. Otherwise you should just be swinging your sword at whatever comes near you, no need to target. I notice the people who don't like the combat in DDO are the people that are used to the format of clicking the target they want to hit then using their hotbars. The current MMO's have really boring combat (except DDO) because its always the same fight, tank taunts, casters nuke, healers stand around healing, and your dps get all the fun.
You guys should all try the Kobold assault quest its low level and you just get rushed by kobold after kobold its a blast.
In America I have bad teeth. If I lived in England my teeth would be perfect.
My elf should not be clumsy even if me as a player is. In D&D you roll ability checks and skills, not try and mouse click or something just as silly.
Sorry but DD0's combat is nothing like D&D and can hardly compare to games like CS and other games for aimed/target/twitch combat.
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In America I have bad teeth. If I lived in England my teeth would be perfect.
I thought the same thing. Just swing! I am so so so glad I do not have to tab to get nearest mob when your melee.
Can't wait till this semester is over so I can resub again and get back to playing!
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Oh the irony of this post. Cheers!
DDO combat is the same as other MMORPGs. The melee monsters run up to you for close combat. Other monster use range attacks or spells from a distance. The only difference (and a small difference at that) I can find in DDO is that smaller creatures tend to run around the room like a hyperactive child on a sugar high. Rarely, did humans or humaniods do any bobbing and weaving.
DDO combat is the same as other MMORPGs. The melee monsters run up to you for close combat. Other monster use range attacks or spells from a distance. The only difference (and a small difference at that) I can find in DDO is that smaller creatures tend to run around the room like a hyperactive child on a sugar high. Rarely, did humans or humaniods do any bobbing and weaving.
Hehe..
from this post here i got a familiar feeling...sometimes in DDO, While standing back with my bard throwing some heals, crowd control, buff and melee if a critter breaks our fighters rank.. sometimes, there is one dude, usually a barbarian (no offence
) with a two hander running around like a beheaded chicken, swinging his great sword killing alot of air. and im thinking "WTH is this guy doing?" Its all laughs tho 
But seriously, even tho this combat system isnt designed for hotkey spamming, there is enough skills to use for a melee (casters have enough to push! lol)
Intimitate, diplomacy, bluff, shift to block or tumble, trip, sunder, change weapons for a different encounter, enchantment buffs, paladin has some extra skills, feats like: cleave, whirlwind attack, combat expertice, precision, power attack.... dude if you cant find buttons to push except for tab (which you rarely ever use as a melee) the problem isnt the system, but you! but that my turbine hateing troll, we already knew... tata
Monster AI is being improved, very soon, another example of the improvements that have come to DDO over the last few months........!
http://ddo.warcry.com/news/view/69963-Visit-With-Turbine-Dungeons-and-Dragons-Online
You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
I thought the same thing. Just swing! I am so so so glad I do not have to tab to get nearest mob when your melee.
Can't wait till this semester is over so I can resub again and get back to playing!
You have to select a target or you hit whatever is closest to you. Not good when you are trying to kill a spellcaster that's trying incinerate you, or a beholder trying to disintegrate you, and you hit the slimes around him instead because you haven't selected a target. This leads to more weapon damage, increases your opponents (slimes and jellies split when you hit them with a sword)This is precisely why PUG's suck. Half the people in them don't understand how to play this game. In the case of an elder beholder and lots of other bosses, approaching melee combat like this can cause a party wipe. You need to kill that boss as fast as possible. If you don't select a target, you are letting the stuff around him tank for him, which gives him more time to disintegrate (or whatever) you.
That aside, put your target next key under your pinky finger, so it's easier to do. Using the control key mapping feature is very good for your game. I suggest you learn use it to make you a better player.
Before you give advice on a game you should learn how to play it.
I played the game just fine and had no problems with PUGs. I know not to swing a blade on a slime and to use a blunt. I know when mobs are mezzed and how to avoid them. But in general it was mostly a swing fest and I've rarely wiped cause of it. In some of the VON trials I got told what to go for and what not to. Guess I'll never see you in a PUG which is ok with me.
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Promote what you love instead of bashing what you hate.
Lastera has no clue of combat, I mean she got all the way to level 4.
The best meleers I have seen didn't spam the attack button, but they switched weapons and items depending on the foe they currently faced. Harder tougher guys, with huge AC, and they switched to vorpal, assasin types, they changed to weapons with will save effects, and then there is elemental damage on weapons depending on foe weaknesses. The melee variety is huge, I myself played a melee. Those running around hitting air are the fools, who have no idea. There is enough variety, but lastera speaks shit, for she does not know.
I feel for you, holy crusader, but best get your facts straight.
You must not leave until you free Arlos and have gathered your party safely in this hallway.
What you mean by you dont expect this kinnda combat from a roleplaying game? The WoW combat system is a insult to roleplay games
You need to have real time combat to do real RP
I tried this game out way back in beta and realy didn't give it much of a chance due to being a WoW raiding freak back then. Since then I have grown very bored of the button mashing that has been what passed for combat in these games since EQ1. I'm mostly playing Planetside now just for the pure action and loving it and thought I would have to wait until Conan for an MMORPG with a good combat system, I will definatly give D&DO a try tonight!
Out of all the current MMO's I would agree that Dungeon & Dragons Online has the best combat system.
Pure and simple, it is dynamic! No other MMO has a combat system which relies on a multitude of positional chalenges, obstructions and a "smart" AI as a means to engage its players in a real time format. DDO excels at this!
I played for almost 2 months upon DDO's release. I did not think it was a good game at the time and believed it was lacking way too much to be considered a true MMO. I retunred about 5 weeks ago and have been enjoying it emensely!
Not trying to fool anyone here. There's still much lacking in DDO which is common in true MMO's. Mainly, open areas which allow for continued exploration, but that is coming this week with 2 new large out door areas!!
Now is the time to re-subscribe to Dungeon & Dragons Online. If you are open minded and enjoy a dynamic gaming environments with an engaging combat system then this game is for you. If you are close minded and like to piss and moan, this will never be for you.