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ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
In this forum you WILL find threads discussing positive aspects about the game.  If you don't like reading such things and want to flame people for having such opinions, please, go to the Veterans forum and post till you can't type anymore. 

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  • treysmoothtreysmooth Member UncommonPosts: 648
    I would say the same applies to the current crop of players that tend to lurk in the vet refuge.  It works both ways man, if you want respect you have to give it.  Now this isn't aimed at you man because frankly I find you to be a pretty cool poster and well spoken but some of the others really well I won't say but you get the idea.  I respect opinions of those that respect mine simple as that....



    Peace
  • benasatobenasato Member UncommonPosts: 193
    i agree on the flame part but i mus of miss were it said all post had to be positive in current.
  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851


    Originally posted by Obraik
    In this forum you WILL find threads discussing positive aspects about the game. If you don't like reading such things and want to flame people for having such opinions, please, go to the Veterans forum and post till you can't type anymore.

    That's like saying only "whites" can post. You can't take one side of the story this is why I have always hated your representation of the SWG community. You sit there and sugar coat every problem with gum drops and bubble gum in candyland. My theory that you have and still work for SOE is still hanging in the air of high possibilities and posts like this don't help your cause or position in this matter.

    [[ DEAD ]] - Funny - I deleted my account on the site using the cancel account button.  Forum user is separate and still exists with no way of deleting it. Delete it admins. Do it, this ends now.
  • ownedyou1ownedyou1 Member Posts: 364
    If this is the current gameplay forum you'll also find threads saying it sucks, if you don't like it, go to WOW and post all you like.
  • flakesflakes Member Posts: 575

    Don't even try this obraik...been done a million times.The SWG forum will be what it allways was : grumpy old men saying a lot but not wanting to hear what the other side has to say.That goes both for the lovers and the haters.And even if you are not a lover or hater you will be called one of both.

    The pro-SWG peops call you a hater if you make a small remark bout a flaw in the game...the haters will call you a swg-fanboy if you even say one good thing about SWG in it's current state.I gave up this fight a few weeks back realising whatever you said got twisted and turned.This is the only forum in my opinion where you can not get a reall idea of what the game is with all the bs from both sides.

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
    Originally posted by benasato

    i agree on the flame part but i mus of miss were it said all post had to be positive in current.



    No, I'm not saying you have to be positive (besides, I'm not a mod), but don't act surprised when you see people posting positive stuff in this forum.  I'm getting tired of seeing the latest trend of people coming over to this forum and flaming people simply because someone had a positive opinion of the game or the poster is completely new to SWG and gets flamed because they say they like the game.  It's ugly.

     

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  • Deathstrike2Deathstrike2 Member UncommonPosts: 1,777
    Originally posted by Obraik

    In this forum you WILL find threads discussing positive aspects about the game.  If you don't like reading such things and want to flame people for having such opinions, please, go to the Veterans forum and post till you can't type anymore. 



    Translation for those who aren't getting it:

    In addition to all the negative posts, this forum is likely to also contain positive comments as well.  Please allow others to post how they feel about the game, positive or negative, without flaming them for their opinions.  If you cannot accept that others might actually like the game as is, you should probably try posting in the Veterans forum because there is more discussion there about how the game was.

    Have a nice day! 

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
    Originally posted by Deathstrike2

    Originally posted by Obraik

    In this forum you WILL find threads discussing positive aspects about the game.  If you don't like reading such things and want to flame people for having such opinions, please, go to the Veterans forum and post till you can't type anymore. 



    Translation for those who aren't getting it:

    In addition to all the negative posts, this forum is likely to also contain positive comments as well.  Please allow others to post how they feel about the game, positive or negative, without flaming them for their opinions.  If you cannot accept that others might actually like the game as is, you should probably try posting in the Veterans forum because there is more discussion there about how the game was.

    Have a nice day! 


    Pretty much

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  • SuvrocSuvroc Member Posts: 2,383

    Just out of curiosity....

    If you have an active account why then are you posting on an unofficial SWG forum?

    If you want like minded individuals to discuss the "current" gameplay then why not take that discussion to where you'll find those like minded individuals who are playing the "current" game?

  • Deathstrike2Deathstrike2 Member UncommonPosts: 1,777
    Originally posted by Suvroc


    If you want like minded individuals to discuss the "current" gameplay then why not take that discussion to where you'll find those like minded individuals who are playing the "current" game?



    /Looks at title of this forum.....

    /Looks at this post....

    /boggle....

     

  • jerksonjerkson Member Posts: 106

    Obraik's word is law!

    Gimmi a break, we'll discuss whatever we want in here, positive AND negative, that's kinda what a forum is for, to discuss! now /sho

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  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
    Originally posted by jerkson


    Obraik's word is law!
    Gimmi a break, we'll discuss whatever we want in here, positive AND negative, that's kinda what a forum is for, to discuss! now /sho
    It's also about reading.  Now, go read what I've posted and you'll realise what's wrong with your post ;)

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  • jerksonjerkson Member Posts: 106
    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by jerkson


    Obraik's word is law!
    Gimmi a break, we'll discuss whatever we want in here, positive AND negative, that's kinda what a forum is for, to discuss! now /sho
    It's also about reading.  Now, go read what I've posted and you'll realise what's wrong with your post ;)

    Oh believe me I already have.. You say its about discussing positive aspects of the current game state, well it's not all positive, that's where the negative part comes in.. NO mmorpg out there are 100% positive, that's what I meant. So there should be room for people to discuss the negative sides aswell and what they could do to improve those.

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  • HuriaHuria Member Posts: 311
    Current basically means don't post these in all the threads:





    "The game was so much better then pre-cu screw NGE"



    "NGE SUX BETTER BACK DEN"



    "Why would you play this it isn't even like it was back then"



    "When I played you could _____"





    Talk about what's going on with the game NOW not back then. Say the NGE sucks but dont go on a rant and compare it to the PAST.
  • jerksonjerkson Member Posts: 106
    Originally posted by Huria

    Current basically means don't post these in all the threads:





    "The game was so much better then pre-cu screw NGE"



    "NGE SUX BETTER BACK DEN"



    "Why would you play this it isn't even like it was back then"



    "When I played you could _____"





    Talk about what's going on with the game NOW not back then. Say the NGE sucks but dont go on a rant and compare it to the PAST.



    Again, freedom of speech, people can say whatever they want to say. If you dont like people keep saying the game sucks and was alot better pre-CU, then you dont respect their point of view, why should they respect yours then? If it's such a big problem for you, ignore it? or even use the well known command block on those who keep saying it, you could start with me :)

    I understand your point of view, and respect it, seeing as it can become a pain in the A** when people are saying the same thing over and over, but this is a forum, you can't ask people to stop sharing their opinion, unless you're willing to yourself. Anyhow no matter what Im not gonna stop sharing my opinion for sure :) as you can see.

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  • SuvrocSuvroc Member Posts: 2,383
    Originally posted by Deathstrike2

    Originally posted by Suvroc


    If you want like minded individuals to discuss the "current" gameplay then why not take that discussion to where you'll find those like minded individuals who are playing the "current" game?



    /Looks at title of this forum.....

    /Looks at this post....

    /boggle....

     



    I'm sorry you're finding this a bit confusing.

    Let me try again...

    I understand what Obraik is saying, and he MAY have a point. However my question is still valid. Why post here about the current gameplay when you have an official forum with like minded people? Is is an honest question that should not be confussing to you.

  • HuriaHuria Member Posts: 311
    There are 2 forums for a reason. I don't agree with nge supports spamming the vet board or the pre-cu spamming the current board. The forums were created to stop all this bickering between sides. People talking about current don't need to be hammered with "omg you play this wtf man it sucks stop playing it i dont care if you like it pre-cu for life". People talking in vet don't need to hammered with "omg you should try it the dev team picked up and its so much better stop crying about your old game PLAY JEDI NOW"
  • SuvrocSuvroc Member Posts: 2,383

    Wait a sec....

    First, what constitues a vet? Secondly, why is it assumed that vets are considered only pro pre-CU, surely there are a few vets who do enjoy the NGE.

    Lastly, why are people expected to not discuss their dissatisfaction about the direction of the CURRENT game.

  • HuriaHuria Member Posts: 311
    It says in the forum descriptions:





    Vet:



    A place for disgruntled former and current SWG players to talk about the game that was and the game that now is, as well as for newcomers who are curious about the issues surrounding the changes that this game has undergone. *Note, MMORPG.com RoC will still be enforced.



    Current:



      A place to talk about the game as it is today, for gamers who currently play or are interested in trying it out. *Note: RoC will be STRICTLY enforced. Absolutely no trolling, flaming or the like will be tolerated.










    You can tell that vet is pretty much for all talk Pre-CU and current is for how the game is in current state. I'm not saying all pre-cu talk in current is bad, but to be honest it almost ALWAYS turns into a flame war, hence 2 different forums.
  • DeepShadowDeepShadow Member Posts: 40

    Hasn't anyone learned that saying don't fan the fires, is exactly what gets them fanned.
    I think not... be the bigger person and then step away from the fight, and if it bothers you that much nag the mods about it.

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    Some people wonder what happened.

  • SuvrocSuvroc Member Posts: 2,383
    Originally posted by Huria

    It says in the forum descriptions:





    Vet:



    A place for disgruntled former and current SWG players to talk about the game that was and the game that now is, as well as for newcomers who are curious about the issues surrounding the changes that this game has undergone. *Note, MMORPG.com RoC will still be enforced.



    Current:



      A place to talk about the game as it is today, for gamers who currently play or are interested in trying it out. *Note: RoC will be STRICTLY enforced. Absolutely no trolling, flaming or the like will be tolerated.










    You can tell that vet is pretty much for all talk Pre-CU and current is for how the game is in current state. I'm not saying all pre-cu talk in current is bad, but to be honest it almost ALWAYS turns into a flame war, hence 2 different forums.



    Thanks for pointing that out, I never really did read the description of the vet refuge forum.

    However, does it not stand to reason that if I were dissatisfied with the current gameplay ( i.e. the direction) then that would be the place to champion for changes? Even if those changes meant another revamp?

    Also, hypothetically, if the emu gets up and running in a pre-CU form does that not make it current gameplay to some?

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
    Originally posted by jerkson

    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by jerkson


    Obraik's word is law!
    Gimmi a break, we'll discuss whatever we want in here, positive AND negative, that's kinda what a forum is for, to discuss! now /sho
    It's also about reading.  Now, go read what I've posted and you'll realise what's wrong with your post ;)

    Oh believe me I already have.. You say its about discussing positive aspects of the current game state, well it's not all positive, that's where the negative part comes in.. NO mmorpg out there are 100% positive, that's what I meant. So there should be room for people to discuss the negative sides aswell and what they could do to improve those.

    Then no, you didn't read what I posted.  I cleared up in a thread that I have no issue with people posting their negative experiences with the game.  I DO have issue when said people come here, see someone posting something positive and rip into them for having such an opinion, as if they shouldn't be allowed to say that.  Yesterday someone posted that they were enjoying the game and people came over to his thread and pretty much told him he really wasn't having fun because pre-cu was supposebly better.  His opinion was then discarded because apparantly he was 15.   THAT is what I have issue with.  That and people that come here and act all offended that someone dares to post something positive.

    That free speech thing goes both ways.

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  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
    Originally posted by Suvroc

    Originally posted by Deathstrike2

    Originally posted by Suvroc


    If you want like minded individuals to discuss the "current" gameplay then why not take that discussion to where you'll find those like minded individuals who are playing the "current" game?



    /Looks at title of this forum.....

    /Looks at this post....

    /boggle....

     



    I'm sorry you're finding this a bit confusing.

    Let me try again...

    I understand what Obraik is saying, and he MAY have a point. However my question is still valid. Why post here about the current gameplay when you have an official forum with like minded people? Is is an honest question that should not be confussing to you.

    Well if you want to go with that argument, why do we have different food companies?  Why do we have different car companies?  Why do we have different game companies? 

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  • 0k210k21 Member Posts: 866
    Here's proof that this is a free speech MMORPG forum..... PENIS.... Okay, joking aside, if you want the respect for the current forum, then how about helping us stop all the fanboi troll posts that suddenly appear on the veteran refuge that attack our ideals and opinions? Then we might consider leaving this forum alone too, I love the internet because of how free it is, it isn't filled with 'paid for' opinions and people don't censor things they don't like they argue against it instead, you've got to learn to live with that, this isn't SOE's forum, it's the property of MMORPG.com, they made the site, they made the rules and they've said that if you can back up your comments properly then they don't mind what you say (remember them saying something like that on a podcast) If you can come up with some definitive information that shows what you are talking about, then by all means post away, but don't expect us just to hang back with our information and experiences too.

    Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.

  • RipperLordRipperLord Member Posts: 58
    Originally posted by 0k21

    Here's proof that this is a free speech MMORPG forum..... PENIS.... Okay, joking aside, if you want the respect for the current forum, then how about helping us stop all the fanboi troll posts that suddenly appear on the veteran refuge that attack our ideals and opinions? Then we might consider leaving this forum alone too, I love the internet because of how free it is, it isn't filled with 'paid for' opinions and people don't censor things they don't like they argue against it instead, you've got to learn to live with that, this isn't SOE's forum, it's the property of MMORPG.com, they made the site, they made the rules and they've said that if you can back up your comments properly then they don't mind what you say (remember them saying something like that on a podcast) If you can come up with some definitive information that shows what you are talking about, then by all means post away, but don't expect us just to hang back with our information and experiences too.
    Ok... thanks for the rant but what was the point of that small speech, and which side are you on? People who believe in freedom of speech or the ones that use the freedom to take away others freedom of speech on this forum? I haven't even seen you on the forum before?

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