After reading WoW`s content patch, any one else get the feeling

Foodoolaws · April 2007

This is the biggest content patch todate. All of that stuff looks drooling. Any one else get the feeling that the number of preorders released from LOTRO has blizzard scared? I mean if LOTRO can pull 600k preorders how many can AoC or even the most anticipated warhammer get? So any one else think blizzard is going to work wayy harder then WoW then ever before?

ownedyou1 · April 2007

I'd say, ever since burning crusade wow's number have dropped by around 1.5mill

i guess half of those preordered lotro,

Not to mention the game isnt even out yet, cant wait to see what happens.

Gameloading · April 2007

Originally posted by ownedyou1

I'd say, ever since burning crusade wow's number have dropped by around 1.5mill

i guess half of those preordered lotro,

Not to mention the game isnt even out yet, cant wait to see what happens.

No.

Sramota · April 2007

Ofcourse it's marketing
mind you I'm sure they've been working on alot before too,
but most releases of info are saved for situations like this.
So, yes, we'll see alot more from Blizzard in the coming months..

I kinda felt burned on the Engineering though.. They added helmets... That's all.
And, ya, one grenade.

So, indeed I hope to see more work from them.
I'll hold my money in my wallet for now however.

Dreneth · April 2007

I don't think Blizzard has much to be scared of from LoTRO just yet... I could be wrong... but I don't think it will dent WoW much. When new styles of games like PoTBS come out, perhaps we will see more of a shift. New styles of gameplay usually generate more of a buzz than similar releases.

And I am not saying PoTBS will be the WoW killer... just an example of a new style of MMO.

Foodoolaws · April 2007

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by ownedyou1

I'd say, ever since burning crusade wow's number have dropped by around 1.5mill

i guess half of those preordered lotro,

Not to mention the game isnt even out yet, cant wait to see what happens.

No. I didnt say WoWs sucking WoWs still the best mmo todate but read the content patch bro Orgrila alone is a content patch.

Meridion · April 2007

Blizzard... SCARED? You must be kidding, this game had millions of subscribers for over two years. It earned Blizzard more than 50 times the production cost. It was and is a golden cow. If warhammer released now and everybody would cancel WoW, it would gloriously go down in MMORPG history.

Plus, WAR and AoC are vastly anticipated titles, yes. But hell, Vanguard was a highly anticipated title, DnLs 20 000 beta accounts were given away within 11 seconds - and now? I take any bet, and I'm not playing WoW at the moment, that Blizzard knows very well that no other company in the scene manages to produce as popular games as they do. Not only WoW, but back to Warcraft 2 all the way through, pretty much every title was a burning bestseller...

Blizzard scared... youre funny guy...

Meridion

Diegeiro · April 2007

I think they had to do something to counter act the end game. Faction, faction, then lots of prerequistes that keep my from playing with my more active friends.

I started a new toon on a friends server, but she's busy with faction. I have played since the original beta but I am starting to look around.

Gameloading · April 2007

Originally posted by Foodoolaws

This is the biggest content patch todate. All of that stuff looks drooling. Any one else get the feeling that the number of preorders released from LOTRO has blizzard scared? I mean if LOTRO can pull 600k preorders how many can AoC or even the most anticipated warhammer get? So any one else think blizzard is going to work wayy harder then WoW then ever before?

Oh by the way, There were no pre-order numbers released from Lord of the rings online. the 600k pre-order is just a rumor.There is no official information.

Dreneth · April 2007

Originally posted by Foodoolaws

I didnt say WoWs sucking WoWs still the best mmo todate but read the content patch bro Orgrila alone is a content patch.

I wholeheartedly disagree with you. WoW is not the best MMO to date. It is the most popular... there is a difference between popular and best. Never assume that what is popular is what is best.

Foodoolaws · April 2007

i see this content patch is bad ass *Thumbs up for blizz* all this except the godly black temple is nothing but 5 man and small group content. Blizzard really listened to their players on this patch which more companys need to do.

whitedelight · April 2007

Gameloading is correct. IGN said that Turbine said there could be a Possible 600k entering beta. You could say the same for any game that ever opened up to beta that there could be possible X number of users. It is a huge number and face it, some people will follow it blindly and join up because it is the next biggest kid on the block and the biggest kid was a jerk. It is a marketing tool, because it didn't give official numbers, but you can not claim it to be a lie because of the word "possible".

cupertino · April 2007

Nah LOTRO wont worry blizzard or change their plans, but WAR and to a lesser extent AoC might make Blizzard beef up the PvP, with both these games out at the end of the year purhaps blizzard next expansion will be more PvP, WoW is well suited to RvR type combat, seige and city capture etc, the ground work was put in with TBC with halaa and bombing runs... its just wether Blizard will see WAR and AoC as a big enough challenge to make changes the PvP.

Sramota · April 2007

As a sidenote on the Turbine statement of possible 600k...
WoW US Open Beta (The first one) had a TOTAL of 500k testers.
That's less than turbines possible

However, the amount who signed UP for the Open Beta was well beyond 1.5million people.

And that goes both ways.

I remember Neocron who had 250k possible testers.
The amount of ACTUAL testers was around 5-10k if I'm not mistaken.

So a number in itself holds no value.

Foodoolaws · April 2007

i agree blizzards PVP has ALOT of potential. Especcially bombing runs. If blizzard st arts to get their act together now i may not have to wait for warhammer or AoC. This content patch comming up is heading them in the right direction. I just thought with LOTRO being a hidden threat made blizzard work harder. :P

Also imo i think WoW is the best mmo todate its very smooth, good graphics has ALOT to offer. But then again its just an opinion.

Gameloading · April 2007

Originally posted by Sramota

As a sidenote on the Turbine statement of possible 600k...

WoW US Open Beta (The first one) had a TOTAL of 500k testers.

That's less than turbines possible
However, the amount who signed UP for the Open Beta was well beyond 1.5million people.
And that goes both ways.
I remember Neocron who had 250k possible testers.

The amount of ACTUAL testers was around 5-10k if I'm not mistaken.
So a number in itself holds no value.

So your saying that 1 million people didn't use their beta account? that sounds a bit silly.

gannonreid · April 2007

WoW has been sitting at the top for some time and they have been doing an excellent job at providing a steady stream of new content and changes. But now things are getting exciting. I think LOTRO will be the biggest threat WoW has faced to death and probably will be for some time. There is such a positive buzz about LOTRO and their numbers (not even at release yet) are showing this. Though I don't see LOTRO toppling WoW, it will definitely siphon a significant portion of subscribers (my guess is at least 1million).

So now WoW has to step it up even more, using their uncalculatable resources towards keeping and also continuously building their subscribers. Again, they have done well so far, but nothing has given them as big of a run for their money, and now that the excitement for vets of WoW is starting to fade, I see bigger changes on the horizon. Aside from LOTRO, you also have AoC and Pirates of the Burning Sea, two dramatically different games that will shake up the industry also (I think PotbS will have a bigger effect than AoC); you also have a number of other potentially great games, each offering very different things (but personally I don't see WAR as a huge threat to WoW).

So nows the time for WoW to put their vast sums of money where their mouth is. It's pretty exciting.

If there is one thing that would kill WoW and I sincerely hope Blizzard continues their tradition of not doing this, it's rushing content that is bug ridden and broken. This is something WoW has never had (at least on any notable scale), it's always been extremely polished, So I hope they don't try to rush content just to keep up... That would be death.

nomadian · April 2007

if its the patch message I saw it didn't look that impressive?

Foodoolaws · April 2007

didnt look all that impressive? Not only are we getting a 25 man raid dungeon that is non linear and HUGE and also has one of the best Warcraft lore characters as a boss but we are also getting a plathora of new small man/5 man content. flying mount combat and more.

Sovrath · April 2007

Originally posted by Dreneth

Originally posted by Foodoolaws
I didnt say WoWs sucking WoWs still the best mmo todate but read the content patch bro Orgrila alone is a content patch.

I wholeheartedly disagree with you. WoW is not the best MMO to date. It is the most popular... there is a difference between popular and best. Never assume that what is popular is what is best.

True, but one should also never assume it's "not" the best.

Look at it this way. What is the best is up to personal taste. So in the end, that is the deciding factor. However, put 30 people in a room and have 25 of them thing that one painting on the wall is "the best" and the remaing 5 insist that a different painting is the best and that the 25 have no taste.

Well, then great. Still doesn't change the fact that the 25 think their painting is the best based upon their own criteria which is the only criteria that matters.

In the end, this WoW is evil and needs to be dethroned mentality is just not healthy. Who cares? People should just play what they like. I realize that there are players who would say that because of the success of WoW, all games are now trying to emulate what they've done and therefore it has ruined the industry. I see this as being shortsighted. You live long enough you start seeing the cycles in things and come to realize that everything rises, falls and rises again.

History is full of status quo coming head to head with the antithesis of the status quo and then a "new" status quo that then encounters its own antithesis.

WoW doesn't need to lose for everyone to win in the end. As more and more companies start entering the market you are also going to find more and more companies who want to carve their own little niche instead of dominating the market. Diversity will fourlish, though not evenly.

Look at the music you all listen to? Where does it fall on the popular scale? I'm sure many of you don't listen to pop top 40. Some of you might listen to bottom 1%. But you do listen to it and it is available. No reason games will not be like this to some degree.

xDarc07 · April 2007

WoW is going to lose folks to other games? This is good news...

If it bleeds, we can kill it. (lol, predator.)

Kyleran · April 2007

I really don't see Blizzards latest patch as a reaction to LotRO specifically, just those are some smart folks over at Blizzard and they've been working on strategies to prevent losing subscribers since the day they launched. They can see how many new games are on the horizon and they know we players are fickle and tend to jump around a lot. This content patch will be one of many they release to try and retain subscribers over the long term...which is exactly what you would expect them to do.

Ciredric · April 2007

Ah not really. All this content was planned for BC, but it did not pass inspection so this was delayed until all the bugs were out of it.

Blizzard won't start worrying until this fall hits and people are getting tired of doing x instance n times. There will be some significant competition in the marketplace with both Warhammer and AoC coming out. If any of those games are decent it will definitely have an impact on Wow. Remember there will be no Wow expansion in the near future.

Dreneth · April 2007

Originally posted by Ciredric

Blizzard won't start worrying until this fall hits and people are getting tired of doing x instance n times. There will be some significant competition in the marketplace with both Warhammer and AoC coming out. If any of those games are decent it will definitely have an impact on Wow. Remember there will be no Wow expansion in the near future.

Believe me... if Blizzard was going to worry about those games, they would already be worrying about it and making plans to react. Unless, of course, they get cocky. It would be foolish to wait until a game steals their market share to try to keep their players. And I know plenty of people who are sick of soing x instance n times. The game has been out for a few years now, and it's pretty easy to max level in WoW.

Foodoolaws · April 2007

Isnt it easy now a days to max level in any mmo?

narva · April 2007

Strange coinsidence that Bliz suddenly starts caring for the casual non raiders......Not that I think LOTRO will be anyways close of "killing off" WOW but for the first time there's a REAL alternative for the casual non raiders. AOC and WAR will follow soon and put even more pressure on Bliz.

Even if you are hooked on one game or another please realize good things can come out of this. Competition fighting over your money will and should result in better products for us to choose from.

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