War on Nest-Gen Consoles?

Lashers · April 2007

I just read a thread someone started about EA trying to fill a position in their War consoles area. Anyone else heard anything about this?

I have a PS3 and am curious if War may be available for it.

Thanks

Volkmar · April 2007

beside that, WAR was presented on a X-box 360 at one of the presentation some good time ago. But no official announcement yet.

Seems just question of time with the new job listing at EA

Kyoruto · April 2007

If it does go the next gen. I think the main thing is will they be playing separately from the PC gamers. Which I'd think so.

Areel · April 2007

Just for reference, our last discussion on the console issue can be found in this thread.

Petzen · April 2007

Mytich is mainly working at the pc version of War. Perhaps at some later point they may consider doing a console version, hence the testing done at E3, but atm they are mainly working at the pc version.

Healforfood · April 2007

Not sure if the console talk was before or after EA bought mythic.Doubt they would go with the 2nd rate xbox now that they have EA money.Depending how thier asian venture goes I could see ps3.heck there only a few hundred dollars from a pc anyways.wether they get thier own server which would be best.I dont even think they make a mac version.I would allow for some type of upgrade tansfere to a regular pc server if they bought a pc.which most kids have now by 17.

Death1942 · April 2007

hmmm another way for Microsoft to rip off X-box users by making them buy "special" keyboards just to chat online...its brilliant

GlacianNex · April 2007

FYI with 360s front panel USB ports any keyboard would work, same goes for mouse. Weather standard keyboard and mouse will be supported in game is another question. However it works perfectly in LOTR: Battle for Middle Earth.

Volkmar · April 2007

Originally posted by Healforfood

Not sure if the console talk was before or after EA bought mythic.Doubt they would go with the 2nd rate xbox now that they have EA money.Depending how thier asian venture goes I could see ps3.heck there only a few hundred dollars from a pc anyways.wether they get thier own server which would be best.I dont even think they make a mac version.I would allow for some type of upgrade tansfere to a regular pc server if they bought a pc.which most kids have now by 17.

"2nd rate" xbox? What the heck you talking about??

We are talking of the new x-box not the old one.

Hopefully they will have separate servers.

Healforfood · April 2007

I'll have to look up facts and figures in a minute.But basically console makers give away the razor to sell the blade.In this case games.And what I have seen xbox360 games sell for are way low compared to ps3(only hit x-box has had is halo).I no from a cnn interview with gates that he is standing by the x-box,in spite of losing 4.7 billion US since its launch.That includes game royalties.Now gates is leaving ms soon,and microsoft ceo must sell shareholders on this continued money pit.Sony on the other hand dominates the world market,ill guess 80%,just a guess atm.Sony has a cap on console sales of I believe 300-350k per month which will increase as royalties come in.I remember sony almost went insolvent by accident, by releasing to many ps2's at one.since they lost about $100 per unit in subsidies and millions were sold within days.

I beleive the ps3 is king of the hill atm,still think you need to get on a waiting list for one.I belive the advanced one goes for $800,if you figure in subsidies and efficiency of scale in production.this is easily comparable to a $1200 pc, throw in it has an effiecent gaming os and you could bump that figure higher.The ps3 is no toy,I wouldn't let it sit exposed under my living room tv.I would have to say I would restrict access to it if I had one(me only) Im sure there would be constant family fights.Its only obvious since sony gets more for thier games and have a larger market share then MS,that EA,which probably makes 20% of sony's games anyway's ,would obviously go ps3.

A next gen ps3? hmm,might be a laptop for all we know,or a compact pc with a killer os.

Death1942 · April 2007

Originally posted by Urza123

FYI with 360s front panel USB ports any keyboard would work, same goes for mouse. Weather standard keyboard and mouse will be supported in game is another question. However it works perfectly in LOTR: Battle for Middle Earth.

diddn't know that sry. next time i will check my facts. if people want to play MMO's on the next gen consoles then i have no problem its when they complain about stupid things thats what gets me going.

whitedelight · April 2007

They are currently only working on this for PC it is even in their FAQ at the moment.

ZephrenKa · April 2007

MMORP-Wii? : ) THAT would be KILLER.

Jaklet · April 2007

It's an interesting concept isnt it, my first reaction is that I wouldnt like to see it, but I don't know... with the next gen consoles and the stability of their networks these days, it'd certainly seem like a viable market to aim at.

Volkmar · April 2007

Originally posted by Healforfood

I'll have to look up facts and figures in a minute.But basically console makers give away the razor to sell the blade.In this case games.And what I have seen xbox360 games sell for are way low compared to ps3(only hit x-box has had is halo).I no from a cnn interview with gates that he is standing by the x-box,in spite of losing 4.7 billion US since its launch.That includes game royalties.Now gates is leaving ms soon,and microsoft ceo must sell shareholders on this continued money pit.Sony on the other hand dominates the world market,ill guess 80%,just a guess atm.Sony has a cap on console sales of I believe 300-350k per month which will increase as royalties come in.I remember sony almost went insolvent by accident, by releasing to many ps2's at one.since they lost about $100 per unit in subsidies and millions were sold within days.

I beleive the ps3 is king of the hill atm,still think you need to get on a waiting list for one.I belive the advanced one goes for $800,if you figure in subsidies and efficiency of scale in production.this is easily comparable to a $1200 pc, throw in it has an effiecent gaming os and you could bump that figure higher.The ps3 is no toy,I wouldn't let it sit exposed under my living room tv.I would have to say I would restrict access to it if I had one(me only) Im sure there would be constant family fights.Its only obvious since sony gets more for thier games and have a larger market share then MS,that EA,which probably makes 20% of sony's games anyway's ,would obviously go ps3.

A next gen ps3? hmm,might be a laptop for all we know,or a compact pc with a killer os.

Urgh. mind is hurting. cannot understand.

You are confusing things here. the OLD X-Box is the one you are talking about, Gates already left microsft. At least from leading it. There have been muuuuch better X-box 360 games than Ps3 games and there are tons more X-box 360 than ps3.

Actually, there is no waiting list for the ps3. Nobody wanted it. all shops are overflowing with stores and there are STILL no great games for it.

http://nexgenwars.com/

here you can see how there are 5 times more Xbox 360 than ps3.... so.... "second rate" my ass. pardon my french. ((you can also see how the WII, released at same time as the ps3, has sold 3 time more...))

Nothing against the ps3, it has great hardware, but sony public relations has been kinda weak recently. and the price tag is a killer.

Have a nice day

Distaste · April 2007

First off I love when Xbox 360 people point out the fact that it has sold X more than ps3, I guess being out over a year earlier didn't help those numbers at all? I mean when people were looking for that new system and there was no competition for the 360 so it racked up a bunch of sales. Now I am not promoting the PS3, hell no. Sony messed up and made it so hard to program with that no one wants to program games for it, hence why there aren't that many good games for it or exclusive games. The 360 is by far inferior in terms of actual technology but if you can't use that technology its wasted.

If you want to look at current sales however the Wii is top dog, low price+High fun= sales.

As far as WAR on a console, it might happen but it really depends on their programming. If their engine and lighting system etc doesn't port well to Xbox then it will take more time and hours. However seeing as how similar the Xbox 360 is to current computer graphics technology I don't see how it wouldn't be easy to port over. The PS3 is a different story...

Volkmar · April 2007

Originally posted by Distaste

First off I love when Xbox 360 people point out the fact that it has sold X more than ps3, I guess being out over a year earlier didn't help those numbers at all? I mean when people were looking for that new system and there was no competition for the 360 so it racked up a bunch of sales. Now I am not promoting the PS3, hell no. Sony messed up and made it so hard to program with that no one wants to program games for it, hence why there aren't that many good games for it or exclusive games. The 360 is by far inferior in terms of actual technology but if you can't use that technology its wasted.

If you want to look at current sales however the Wii is top dog, low price+High fun= sales.

As far as WAR on a console, it might happen but it really depends on their programming. If their engine and lighting system etc doesn't port well to Xbox then it will take more time and hours. However seeing as how similar the Xbox 360 is to current computer graphics technology I don't see how it wouldn't be easy to port over. The PS3 is a different story...

If you talking to me, the other guy was the one insisting the ps3 is the end and all of entertainment and that the x.box is just a piece of trash, so i was just correcting him.

I know the x-box has been out much longer than the ps3... but so what? too bad they lost the race this time.

About the Wii, it has sold 3 times more PS3 in the same amount of time.... I edited my message to add that, as the number of sale is more significative, but somehow the system gobbled up my edit.... oh well...

Funny how the lowest tech console is doing the best? second lowest is doing quite good and the top dog is doing quite bad.... of course they also have the price tags from cheapest to highest in same order but reversed

Healforfood · April 2007

Interesting,possibly the ps3 is too advanced,making it essencially a non windows compatable pc.Perhaps consoles are hitting thier upper limit of there market and the pendulum is swinging back to PC for Advanced games,and consoles are going back to the cheap and simple approach.this has happend several times over the last 25 years.the apple 2 killed intellivison,the nintendo killed the apple 2,the mac killed nintendo,the pc killed mac,the playstation battered the pc,pc rebunds but is later hit by? Its all a cycle been back and fourth for a while maybe the PC will finally stop the cycle.

Razperil · April 2007

All in all, it's nice to see nintendo back where they should be. I applaud them for thier patience in thier hard times and now that is finally paying off. Sony thought adding a blueray would be the best option, I guess they never thought it would go this way. In my own opinion, there isn't much of a difference in the xbox 360 and the ps3. One uses nvidia and one uses ati.. both excellent companies. And if WAR was to come out for either, it would be the xbox 360 for sure. FFXI has already done that.

Lordcrapalot · April 2007

Im just going to repost what I wrote in the other thread about the same thing.

Yes Mythic played with the idea that maybe they would be able to make a consol version of WAR. Which would be able to play with pc owners. But I personally dont think that they will go through with the plan as there are just so many problems to solve.

How would the consol players be able to chat with pc players.

Would it be possible to convert the controls to a gamepad.

Would latency be a problem.

And so on....

There are just so many problems with doin this that I cant see them getting it too work without pissing one of the crowds off, if they could even get it to work.

Death1942 · April 2007

another problem would be downloads. it takes a while to make patches and it would be hard to convert it to a console. as for space eventually ur Xbox or PS3 will fill up and you would need to buy a new hard drive (this is assuming you have a life outside of 1 game and thus take up some more space)

Jetrpg · April 2007

Originally posted by Death1942

another problem would be downloads. it takes a while to make patches and it would be hard to convert it to a console. as for space eventually ur Xbox or PS3 will fill up and you would need to buy a new hard drive (this is assuming you have a life outside of 1 game and thus take up some more space)

Uhh the ps3 has what 60 gig, and the old x-box 360 a 20 gig the new one is liek 120 i think. umm the game may be proably a max of 5 gig and that would be giant... it would fit entirely on the hdd of anyone of them... so ... your wrong.

Even if you had more than one game , peopel who play mmos only play a few other games at the same time becuas eof the timer requirement sof them... and large amount to do in them.

Jupsto · May 2007

Not sure what you guys are arguing about anymore, all went abit off topic. But I flipping hope it does come out on xbox and don't understand why "The Man" wants to keep PC and Xbox servers seperate.

Elgareth · May 2007

Originally posted by Consensus

Not sure what you guys are arguing about anymore, all went abit off topic. But I flipping hope it does come out on xbox and don't understand why "The Man" wants to keep PC and Xbox servers seperate.

Well, I don't really have a Problem with that, as long as:

a) The PC Graphic is ABSOLUTELY IDENTICAL to the X-Box Graphics. Options for less-than-max Detail should be existant on console too, since the Power requirement probably varies greatly between Solo play and a 250v250 man War at the Capitol City gates.

b) The Controls/UI is ABSOLUTELY IDENTICAL to the PC Version. This means: Mouse and Keyboard are a MUST to play that Game, there is no Gamepad Support WHATSOEVER.

OR

c) They have absolutely seperated Servers, with no way of a console Gamer joining a PC Server. In that case the game could be changed however the Devs want, I couldn't care less.

An MMORPG lives from equality of the Players. If one part of the Community has advantages, or disadvantages (or simply differences, which will cause (dis-)advantages), the whole Game becomes flawed.

So either level the playing Field by forcing Console Gamers to use Keyboard and Mouse, or seperate both communities.

Jetrpg · May 2007

Originally posted by Elgareth

Originally posted by Consensus

Not sure what you guys are arguing about anymore, all went abit off topic. But I flipping hope it does come out on xbox and don't understand why "The Man" wants to keep PC and Xbox servers seperate.

Well, I don't really have a Problem with that, as long as:

a) The PC Graphic is ABSOLUTELY IDENTICAL to the X-Box Graphics. Options for less-than-max Detail should be existant on console too, since the Power requirement probably varies greatly between Solo play and a 250v250 man War at the Capitol City gates.

b) The Controls/UI is ABSOLUTELY IDENTICAL to the PC Version. This means: Mouse and Keyboard are a MUST to play that Game, there is no Gamepad Support WHATSOEVER.

OR

c) They have absolutely seperated Servers, with no way of a console Gamer joining a PC Server. In that case the game could be changed however the Devs want, I couldn't care less.

An MMORPG lives from equality of the Players. If one part of the Community has advantages, or disadvantages (or simply differences, which will cause (dis-)advantages), the whole Game becomes flawed.

So either level the playing Field by forcing Console Gamers to use Keyboard and Mouse, or seperate both communities. I find this super dub here is the reason why.

1) pc players don't all use the same spec pcs , yet they still compete.

2) PC players don't all use the same UI and they compete.

3) PC player do not all use the same interfaces and they compete. (tho a mouse keyboard should be requaired or x-box player gonna get owned)

4) Controls are rarly the same and people still compete (keybinds .. different defualt keyboard binds etc.)

5) Dissadvantages are what make mmos , if you play wow and pretty much wow allow you do not understand this becuase ever dam class is the same. In anycase using your character who is much different and possible weaker vs another class and still winning is what mmos are about ... over coming adversity. Every dam pvp game i have played that was great had this compent in it becuase it is important, WAR is already doing awaywith it to try to give wow fanboies a reason to play there game ... becuase for some odd reason wow-a-tards think everything should be equal and fair. I say give me adversity i'll overcome it.

Ok sorry for the rant ... i really don't see how any of this posters areguments would gave one system an advantage or less of an advantage , other than a keyboard and mouse.

Elgareth · May 2007

Yeah, I was more talking about the Options you have.

Meaning for example that some Fog Effects are turned off for the X-Box Version (because it can't handle to have high fps with it, just an example), while you can't turn them off on the PC, effectively giving X-Box users a better View in that Zone, making in imbalanced.

Also I was talking about the Controller-UI Issue more than UI mods.

For example some sort of Auto-Aim feature (more fitting in the FPS department, but to clear the point), or some sort of auto-skill use, to "make up for" the Gamepad Issues.

Such methods can't be the way of a half-way competitive game.

But then again, why bother with a Console Version, when you have to Play with Keyboard an Mouse anyway? (thinking about actual gameplay... my old N64 is/was only used in front of the TV, sitting/lying on the bed, chilling out a bit) A Keyboard/Mouse Setup HIGHLY recommends a Desktop anyway IMO.

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