From reports I got becasue the developer or most likely publisher are publicly traded companies,was that cox peaked at 190k accts.and last report was dwindling to 171k.Since all the players are moving to two servers it seems,and theres absolutly no way I could/or wan't to grind out 2 toons and another little base before the new mmo's arive in 6-7 months.Atm my server is lucky to peak at 250 villian accts active,this includes PL bots,and free trials.And as usual 5 times as many on the hero side.Atm my acct is on hold till issue 9 is out,they fix base raids,and the population is addressed,not only total server wise,but give bonuses to villians xp,inf,pres,ect. in order to at least push for 2 to 1 hero/villian ratio.why villians weren't given help to make up the 18 months head start hero's had is profound.
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171,000 is not "dwindling". When it drops below 100k we'll talk.
Everything else has been covered a lot in other threads.
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I think he is speaking of what Mythic does with their servers on DAoC. If one faction is low population, to balance out the pvp they encourage players to make toons of that faction with bonuses.
On the other hand, I don't think CoX has a population issue, though I only play on Infinity. You don't need 8+ million subs to be successful mind you.
If you notice people have been making coh/cov as recommendations lately. I know at least 7 people IRL who have come back to this game in the past 2 months. People are tired of the current games. TBC was a rush to 70 and now a rep grind. People want to have a little fun to. Hence this game.
People are just worrying over nothing. The sky is falling.
All canceled. Waiting on Warhammer Online : Age of Reckoning.
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pyramid this forum is riddled with a lot of WoW bashers. We are all refugees from WoW here. but my time in WoW was fun so I for sure dont bash it. just got bored like I always do
Yeah I'm temporarily have my account on hold as well. Was hoping they'd buff villians somemore or add some new powers (like open it up so we can have a lot more powers). but it looks like its not happening so for now playing other games. I have no doubt that Marvel MMO will be really cool but what about City Of Heroes. And i dont understand this server low pop talk they have over 171k subscribers thats a smashing success for MMOs thats a ton of cash per month coming in. I dont understand whats going on how come they not adding more features? Why not plan out another expansion? yeah i realize CoV didnt bring in an influx of new players like they probably wanted but it would allow them to make a lot of cash perhaps? where can I find the report how well City of Villains has sold?
No one is playing villains because of all the imbalances (check CoH/CoV Planner for more info). The heroes get really cool epic powers , the freedom to respec at will, and easier content (on my hero it was a breeze finishing respec TFs versus my villain that takes a LOT more effort). the general consensus amongst all of us high lvl villains all the patrons are a bit too similar and dont really enhance our existing powers. I can only imagine how sweet Focused Accuracy would help my brute do her thing. But instead my choices are black scorpian, Mu, and some other stuff that doesnt enhance my effectiveness. I guess webnades might help a /fire brute burn but thats a specific case- not something generic like Focused Accuracy that would help any AT in the game.
Heroes are looking so so good too me these days tho. They are really well designed and have a lot of choices for pvp. My adivce to you is reroll on freedom and make a FoTM toon and enjoy the cakewalk. My humble, heavily biased opinion is that heroes got much love and villains got the middle finger. I'm still tripping how easy my /regen was to lvl in respect to my brute. my scrapper got Quick Recovery at a low level so he never knew the pain of going to lvl 20 w/o stamina. Didnt experience that pain til I made a villain
QFT thanks so much for posting that. The devs have already said that Microsoft is funding MUO, and our subscription money is being use on CoH/CoV not MUo.
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
Besides do you really trust the dev's.They say what they are told to say or there blacklisted out of the industry.
"we at cryptic are happy to anounce that your subscription money is paying the bills here,while we make a next gen game with lush funding by MS,don't worry though ill stay late if I have to get the minor kink's worked out of our soon to be legacy game, cox."
Doubt any employee,in any business would make such an honest statement.
Heroes can respec out of their epic powers but Villains cannot. both my high lvl villains are stuck with their patrons. I'd like to drop Black Scorpian on my stalker but I can't this power is locked in. They promised us months ago they would look into it and here we are months later still stuck with powers that can't be dropped.
heroes have the freedom to tryout different Epics, etc at will it has always been this way since day 1 of CoV.
Only _Castle_ is still around but hes just a designer. Statesman did infact switch to MUO I am not sure where you are getting your information. NCSoft 'promoted' CoX community manager Cuppa to tabula Rasa + CoX did not appear at E3 like Guild Wars / Tabula Rasa and Aion did. Now, I will not say this MMO is dying but the OP is correct the updates are pretty slow and its depressing when you dont see any big plans on the horizon. They still need to balance the sets better Energy Melee for Brutes is standing out a bit too high. Everyone is rolling either SS or EM mostly they need to buff some sets to make them more viable. I could go across almost all the ATs and name 2-3 sets everyone chooses and describe why the unpopular ones get skipped (like Assault Rifle)
since you are coming back new to this game maybe consider a fresh start on another server with a new character. what ever you worked for before is pretty useless since this isn't an item/loot game and it might give you a new perspective.
or maybe CoX just isn't your thing since you appear so displeased with it.
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[edit] If you come back as a hero there is always the Arena where you can fight other high level heroes. checkout Aura's films to get an idea of Hero vs Hero PvP http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=AuraNRGFX. The PvP SGs like FoL are always recruiting. All my buds went back to heroes and they all seem much happier.
If you are asking whats FOTM for heroes well hell just take your pick its hard to go wrong. There is rad/psi defenders + ice/em blasters + empath defenders. This is a holy trinity that will surely spike any villain in less than a few seconds. Heroes have tons of unresistable dmg sources that can summon at will versus the disadvanatged villains that rely on our gimped inherents to kick in. For instance, my stalker has unresistable dmg however the Empaths can stack clear mind revealing me with ease. My corrupters need for the heroes health bar to be low for scourge to kick in- but that aint gonna happen if the Empath is doing his job (healing/buffing).
A new tactic I see now is that heroes are bringing storm defenders. Since villains are short on +tohit buffs its gonna be hard for villains to touch them. And guess what oddly enough Villains dont have access to Storm powerset nor Focused Accuracy. For PvE Villains are okay but when compared to heroes they look terrible. Someone did a side-by-side comparison with hard data (Frosticus) and proved rad/sonic Defenders OUTDAMAGE sonic/rad corrupters. Corrupters are supposed to be a PRIMARY damage dealer / buffer/ debuffer. So WTF why is a solo DEfender (PRIMARY buffer/debuffer) outdamaging a Corrupter? I want to know. I can give you a hint, defenders get an unresistable -40% bonus to their debuffs. Hence, they can even spike a Brute in a few seconds. But unlike some of those newbs on the CoX forums I dont want heroes nerfed I want villains buffed
Excellent advice I agree but CoX is still one of the best out there. I've been trying out many MMOs myself but it seems inevitable I'll probably be back in another week or so. I can't even really put my finger on it I guess its the character custimization and bios. If you love comics and have a strong imagination you'll get attached to that hero/villain you made and will mostly likely find yourself coming back eventually. This is why I dont see this game dying. Because I know of many hardcore CoX players (like Rystorm) that annouce their departure and they come right back in like a month.
Only _Castle_ is still around but hes just a designer. Statesman did infact switch to MUO I am not sure where you are getting your information. NCSoft 'promoted' CoX community manager Cuppa to tabula Rasa + CoX did not appear at E3 like Guild Wars / Tabula Rasa and Aion did. Now, I will not say this MMO is dying but the OP is correct the updates are pretty slow and its depressing when you dont see any big plans on the horizon. They still need to balance the sets better Energy Melee for Brutes is standing out a bit too high. Everyone is rolling either SS or EM mostly they need to buff some sets to make them more viable. I could go across almost all the ATs and name 2-3 sets everyone chooses and describe why the unpopular ones get skipped (like Assault Rifle)
My info comes from the CoH/V website/forums. Tabula Rasa is not a Cryptic game, it is an NCSoft game. Cuppa was not a Cryptic employee, she worked for NCSoft. The only devs no longer working on CoH/V are the one who have left Cryptic. And, as I said Statesman RUNS CRYPTIC!!!!!! He has to help out with ALL THE GAMES. Yes Castle is still there, as is Positron, war Witch, and BackAlleyBrawler, and thats just the devs that post on the boards.
And, the only poeple who skip the "gimped" power sets are the min/maxers. Personally I play anything that seems fun to me and so do most of the people I play with. The only reason you see tons of Brutes with EM is for PL and PvP, neither of which I do so whatever make them happy.
Heroes can respec out of their epic powers but Villains cannot. both my high lvl villains are stuck with their patrons. I'd like to drop Black Scorpian on my stalker but I can't this power is locked in. They promised us months ago they would look into it and here we are months later still stuck with powers that can't be dropped.
heroes have the freedom to tryout different Epics, etc at will it has always been this way since day 1 of CoV.
Oh ok, sorry I thought you meant that heroes could do a full respec at any time, without earning one. I see what you mean now, and I have to agree that the villians got the short end of the stick on many things.Only _Castle_ is still around but hes just a designer. Statesman did infact switch to MUO I am not sure where you are getting your information. NCSoft 'promoted' CoX community manager Cuppa to tabula Rasa + CoX did not appear at E3 like Guild Wars / Tabula Rasa and Aion did. Now, I will not say this MMO is dying but the OP is correct the updates are pretty slow and its depressing when you dont see any big plans on the horizon. They still need to balance the sets better Energy Melee for Brutes is standing out a bit too high. Everyone is rolling either SS or EM mostly they need to buff some sets to make them more viable. I could go across almost all the ATs and name 2-3 sets everyone chooses and describe why the unpopular ones get skipped (like Assault Rifle)
Last time I checked, Posi is still on CoH/CoV, they just added BaB, and War Witch is still around. I don't know about Manti or any of the other devs. I also was almost 100% sure that States was going to do both MUO and CoH. Last, Cuppa was a forums person not a game person so it doesn't really matter that she moved.Only _Castle_ is still around but hes just a designer. Statesman did infact switch to MUO I am not sure where you are getting your information. NCSoft 'promoted' CoX community manager Cuppa to tabula Rasa + CoX did not appear at E3 like Guild Wars / Tabula Rasa and Aion did. Now, I will not say this MMO is dying but the OP is correct the updates are pretty slow and its depressing when you dont see any big plans on the horizon. They still need to balance the sets better Energy Melee for Brutes is standing out a bit too high. Everyone is rolling either SS or EM mostly they need to buff some sets to make them more viable. I could go across almost all the ATs and name 2-3 sets everyone chooses and describe why the unpopular ones get skipped (like Assault Rifle)
My info comes from the CoH/V website/forums. Tabula Rasa is not a Cryptic game, it is an NCSoft game. Cuppa was not a Cryptic employee, she worked for NCSoft. The only devs no longer working on CoH/V are the one who have left Cryptic. And, as I said Statesman RUNS CRYPTIC!!!!!! He has to help out with ALL THE GAMES. Yes Castle is still there, as is Positron, war Witch, and BackAlleyBrawler, and thats just the devs that post on the boards.
And, the only poeple who skip the "gimped" power sets are the min/maxers. Personally I play anything that seems fun to me and so do most of the people I play with. The only reason you see tons of Brutes with EM is for PL and PvP, neither of which I do so whatever make them happy.
You are making an assumption Statesman is helping work on CoX that doesnt make it fact. My main boss oversees many games but he has never ever taken the time to play the game my team is working on. People get promoted in RL and their priorities change. CoX is really complete in their eyes I'm sure it only needs a skeleton crew to really maintain it. Honestly it takes a huge team to make an MMO and you do not make money by keeping that same team on maintenence (keep in mind most game devs make well over 70k yearly that doesnt include bonuses, benefits, royalties, and overtime).
And thats so wrong even in PvE all I see is a lot of good, well thought out builds. 90% of CoX players are PvE basically. The official forums are full of carebears that seek advice to create a good build. In one second I could post over 10 links that proves my point