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corpg better than mmorpg

i see that guildwars is on the top ten list and currently as i was writing this number one.  whats pretty sad for other mmo's is that its not even classified as an mmo.  its a competitive online role playing game (corpg).  im sure you all know that.  it is in some ways similar to mmo's and for that i consider this an subgenre of mmorpg.  i think people should start makin corpg.  guildwars is a pretty successful game.  we as humans are naturally competitive and always want to be better than each other.  in these games we can do that without hurting one another physically.  now if you get upset emotionally thats your own problem.  i think developers need to emphasize more on pvp than pve.  lets face it everyone will eventually get bored with pve at some point.  its the constant lvlin up to max lvl and doin quests and dungeons or whatever to get that cool item or armor set maybe even a title.  but in pvp you are constantly tryin to better yourself to beat everyone else at it.  you try to be the best.  in guildwars you fight to bring your guild to number one.  or you fight to get enough faction to take over the capital.  this is impossible cause i heard the alliance in cavalon make there guys donate 20k faction a day. talk about havin no life whatsoever. i could build a cathedral with that much time on my hands good lord lol. you can also fight to be the best in hero battles.  now dont get me wrong i want some fun pve also.  pve is fun to.  but pvp is were you get people to come back to your game in my opinion.  that is why i quit ff11, wow, tmo coh and cov.  ff11 takes way too long to do anything in that game.  wow pvp is jump around each other and hit one another which is stupid lookin. this is the same for coh and cov.  tmo was pretty cool but had no point.  im hopin age of conan pvp is awesome.  with the new combat system and takin over outpost or whatever they are called and gettin blood money it should be good.  warhammer looks alright but aoc looks to have more stuff to do in it.

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  • TimberhickTimberhick Member UncommonPosts: 554
    guildwars  blows.
  • homeskillethomeskillet Member Posts: 119
    Originally posted by Timberhick

    guildwars  blows.
    I concur.
  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087

    Cant help feeling this is a deliberate topic for inflaming passions.

    Nehterless Guildwars is a good game and has earned its position. And yes it is a CORPG, so what.

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  • Timberwolf0Timberwolf0 Member Posts: 424
    Agreed with the second and third posts. Guildwars sucks.
  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201

    More "me too" posts from unoriginal "me too" attention whores.

  • thetankthetank Member Posts: 200
    This kind of post are great because they allow everyone to classifie GW-haters as retards thanks to theirs original "Guild Wars sucks" comments

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  • b0rderline99b0rderline99 Member Posts: 1,441

    even though this is an MMORPG website i really think that the fact that most of it is instanced is irrellevant, seriously its on top here so it must be a good game, and it draws from the same community as traditional MMOs so it should be here

    rating wise though i tihnk it helps that it is free monthly

    i personally despise games where you cant jump, so i stayed away (wierd i know)

  • ASmith84ASmith84 Member Posts: 979

    if guildwars suck why is it up in the top ten?  you have your opinions but the majority of the people think its pretty good.

    jumping is cool if it has a point.  guildwars has no need to jump over obstacles and people usually dont hop around when fighting so there is no point to making a jump button.  same with wow there is no point and it looks pretty stupid.  guildwars was smart and didnt put it in the game.  coh i can understand except when your fighting which looks stupid.  the matrix actually made jumping look pretty cool.  too bad the game doensnt have much to do in it and gets boring pretty fast.

    all this is is my opinion that corpg is better than mmo's.  not guildwars is the best or anything like that.  all im sayin is that the corpg genre needs to grow. 

  • DoomLordDoomLord Member UncommonPosts: 124

     

    Originally posted by Timberhick

    guildwars  blows.

     



  • DesaparecidoDesaparecido Member Posts: 136
    Originally posted by ASmith84


    if guildwars suck why is it up in the top ten?  you have your opinions but the majority of the people think its pretty good.
    jumping is cool if it has a point.  guildwars has no need to jump over obstacles and people usually dont hop around when fighting so there is no point to making a jump button.  same with wow there is no point and it looks pretty stupid.  guildwars was smart and didnt put it in the game.  coh i can understand except when your fighting which looks stupid.  the matrix actually made jumping look pretty cool.  too bad the game doensnt have much to do in it and gets boring pretty fast.
    all this is is my opinion that corpg is better than mmo's.  not guildwars is the best or anything like that.  all im sayin is that the corpg genre needs to grow. 
    guild wars is a nice game



    if you play it 3-10 hours in month



    i play gw more only after new chapters



    grinding titles is kinda pointless and boring



    pvp based mostly on luck in this game



    only 8 skills (7..coz 1 of them is rez signet in pvp)
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,073
    Originally posted by ASmith84


    if guildwars suck why is it up in the top ten?  you have your opinions but the majority of the people think its pretty good.
    jumping is cool if it has a point.  guildwars has no need to jump over obstacles and people usually dont hop around when fighting so there is no point to making a jump button.  same with wow there is no point and it looks pretty stupid.  guildwars was smart and didnt put it in the game.  coh i can understand except when your fighting which looks stupid.  the matrix actually made jumping look pretty cool.  too bad the game doensnt have much to do in it and gets boring pretty fast.
    all this is is my opinion that corpg is better than mmo's.  not guildwars is the best or anything like that.  all im sayin is that the corpg genre needs to grow. 
    Actually, 4922 people think that GW is in the top ten, which is actually a very small number compared to the total membership of 568,000 members.  Which just means most folks don't bother to vote. I know I don't, don't really care to.



    But I can see you're point, if 3million people enjoy GW, it makes sense that a few more games should (and probably will) need to come out.



    But I wouldn't call CORPS better than MMORPGs...totally different game styles....for people who enjoy different games...



    I don't view GW as the best PvP either.  Somewhat simplistic button mashing really... well, sort of like all games really now...

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  • GzSx93GzSx93 Member Posts: 43
    Well i have 2 disagree w/ u there buddy becuase !THINK ABOUT IT! how many games are out there that r accually corpgs? not alot.

    Even if YOU think they are better i dont think most of the pplz that play rpgs will.



    i dont belive they will be a big thing in the future









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    COX: lvl 35 scrapper lvl 20 MM

    Guildwars: 20 w/m

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    Waiting on WAR/AOC

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  • b0rderline99b0rderline99 Member Posts: 1,441
    Originally posted by ASmith84


    if guildwars suck why is it up in the top ten?  you have your opinions but the majority of the people think its pretty good.
    jumping is cool if it has a point.  guildwars has no need to jump over obstacles and people usually dont hop around when fighting so there is no point to making a jump button.  same with wow there is no point and it looks pretty stupid.  guildwars was smart and didnt put it in the game.  coh i can understand except when your fighting which looks stupid.  the matrix actually made jumping look pretty cool.  too bad the game doensnt have much to do in it and gets boring pretty fast.
    all this is is my opinion that corpg is better than mmo's.  not guildwars is the best or anything like that.  all im sayin is that the corpg genre needs to grow. 
    well i understand what you mean with jumping, but i probably wouldnt be playing WoW right now if i couldnt jump, i love getting on top of buildings, going to unreleased places, or simply doing wierd stuff to amuse a group who is waiting for people to show up, all of which wouldnt be possible without jumping.  Plus nothing aggrivates me more than not being able to do something be it, jumping in a stream(FFXI) or climbing a mountain (RFO) it feels limiting
  • ASmith84ASmith84 Member Posts: 979

    good arguements i like it. 

    for the voting.  if you dont vote then your sayin you dont care.  its just like voting for president . if you dont bother to vote then you shouldnt complain for not voting is pretty much sayin you could care less.

    now i see where your goin with jumping.  it is fun ill admit in wow that you could jump on things for amusement.  jumping in fighting needs to go though.  maybe its just me but it bugs the hell out of me when people hop around you like a rabbit.  it looks stupid and unrealistic.  plus it really doesnt help you avoid damage so whats the point?

    now that i think about it we probably dont need some more corpg since guildwars is comin out with a guildwars2.  it will add some of the elements that are in mmos into it while still bein a corpg.  the lvl cap will go up to 100 even more maybe. plus they are adding jumping and other movement abilities in it.  maybe guildwars2 will bring even more people to the genre.  that is if the monthly fee is still not present. i know they said no monthly fee but you never know.

    what would be nice is a variety of different themes in the corpg genre.  the medieval fantasy genre is gettin old.  we could use new themes like in the future or somthin.  or they could do it during the industrial age.  maybe even in the caveman age lol.  anything new i would look at. 

  • TimberhickTimberhick Member UncommonPosts: 554
    guildwars still blows.  I would rather go play railroad tycoon
  • thetankthetank Member Posts: 200
    Originally posted by Desaparecido

    pvp based mostly on luck in this game (This is one of the most stupid things i have EVER read on these forums and believe me.. I've read ALOT of them... GW PvP its one of the most complex and dinamic out there altought it is statical (Totaly skill-based) it requires an huge amount of teamplay and game IQ to be really good at it.. And as you can create a character at max lvl anytime you wont get killed by some 1337 idiot with his 1337 Suber Uber Grinded Set..) Altough this is just my opinion dont just say PvP is luck based.. It's an insult to the game..





    And TimberHick i dont think anyone cares about what you do or dont do

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  • broundingbrounding Member Posts: 63
    Originally posted by thetank

    Originally posted by Desaparecido

    pvp based mostly on luck in this game (This is one of the most stupid things i have EVER read on these forums and believe me.. I've read ALOT of them... GW PvP its one of the most complex and dinamic out there altought it is statical (Totaly skill-based) it requires an huge amount of teamplay and game IQ to be really good at it.. And as you can create a character at max lvl anytime you wont get killed by some 1337 idiot with his 1337 Suber Uber Grinded Set..) Altough this is just my opinion dont just say PvP is luck based.. It's an insult to the game..





    And TimberHick i dont think anyone cares about what you do or dont do

    Wow, you just described the pvp system of a few games, don't go thinking GW is special because of that.  And your post is riddled with spelling errors, which you probably should have fixed before calling someone's post "one of the most stupid things" you have EVER read on these forums.



    I'm looking forward to WAR because they are working on implementing a point system for their group pvp instances.  The point system will balance both sides (if side A has a bunch of elite gear and side B has so/so gear, it'll put something like 3 members of side A versus 5 members of side B to balance).  Then the true skill/luck kicks in because gear advantages will be balanced with number advantage.  It will be interesting to see how it works out.
  • HuntnHuntn Member Posts: 284


    Originally posted by thetank
    This kind of post are great because they allow everyone to classifie GW-haters as retards thanks to theirs original "Guild Wars sucks" comments image


    Most enjoyable to see "if-you-don't-agree-with-me-I'll-call-you-a-name" mentality at work, regardless if you like GW or not. ;)

    Personally I prefer MMORPGs over CORPGs, but then again it depends on what your looking for, doesn't it?

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  • Vion1xVion1x Member Posts: 188

    meh, sad to see posters who say something like "GW pvp is about luck" "GW pvp is smashing bottons" .... get into the pvp before u speak.

    do u think its for fun that a guild can stay on the first place of a world rank ladder for month's,  with the best win/lose ratio? Without having super gear like no other have... but they have simular gear to everyone els.... ? i guess they are good at smashing bottons and pretty lucky ey ? lol...

     

  • Runny123Runny123 Member Posts: 177
    Originally posted by Timberhick

    guildwars  blows.
  • broundingbrounding Member Posts: 63
    Originally posted by Vion1x


    meh, sad to see posters who say something like "GW pvp is about luck" "GW pvp is smashing bottons" .... get into the pvp before u speak.
    do u think its for fun that a guild can stay on the first place of a world rank ladder for month's,  with the best win/lose ratio? Without having super gear like no other have... but they have simular gear to everyone els.... ? i guess they are good at smashing bottons and pretty lucky ey ? lol...
     
    There is always an element of skill involved in (most) PVP systems.  There are also certain advantages that top teams utilize in various games (take Counterstrike for example).  If you are in a guild/clan match and your team is not utilizing some sort of teamspeak or vent setup, you are done.  Because it's quicker to talk than it is to type and you can talk and shoot at the same time.  Same goes for PVP in MMORPGs.  I ran with a guild in WoW doing battlegrounds that had a vent server setup and their communication was awesome.  Their gear was not better than their opponents, but they were smart and knew how to play their characters well and used coordination through communication.  That is an important element.  Then a few months after doing that the opponents began having crazy gear and the PVP became unbalanced because gear played such an important role.
  • cadebelocadebelo Member Posts: 54
    Wall-of-text hits you for 45 crushing damage!

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  • BattleFelonBattleFelon Member UncommonPosts: 483

    So I'm just curious to the original OP, are you then classifying both AOC and WAR as CORPG? Because last I heard the only similar CORPG is Fury, but that's just what the gaming media is saying.

    Anyhow, what  I love about Guild Wars PVP is that you have a variety of ways to just jump into a battle with some friends and still be competitive. The Guild Battle skirmish option is also great for just fighting it out with friends. However, the top PVP areas like Hall Of Heroes are completely dominated by elitist teams that are often just as hardcore about their playtime as any WOW raiding guilds.  Just like WOW, the instanced combat tends to get old because in the end there's nothing of real worth that you're fighting for. Even the alliance battle system is pointless because all it does is ensure the top alliance gets access to elite dungeons that don't even offer the same rewards as dungeons that are open to everyone (Domain Of Anguish).

    I'm still a GW fan and play from time to time, but WAR's really piqued my interest by offering a system wherePVP has an ultimate point.

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856
    guild wars is for corpg so if you dont like corpg dont post lol we already know you dont like it(too hard core maybe)
  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856
    some forget the fact that you can fight with  others as early as lvl 1  post-ascalon .(1-9)so if you dont want to bother and just have fun you can bring friend at ascalon and fight .beleive me its still a challenge.nothing is easy in pvp guildwars.
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