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To late to be successful?

DicharekDicharek Member UncommonPosts: 177
I played the trial of this game once but I only did the tutorial and quit and uninstalled after just some hours. It's not that I did not like the game, quite the contrary, I find the concept very appealing. However I quit after I messed up my very first mission where I was supposed to get and deliever something, although I misplaced the item I was going to deliever at another station which I later forget where it was, that and the fact that the skill I was training took 19 days to complete... Felt like meaningless time when the trial was only 14 days.



I admit that I don't know much about the game though, have I completely misunderstood or are there factories which players can buy and run? If so, is it to late to start playing with the intention of owning factories, they should be everywhere by now.

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  • PhotecPhotec Member Posts: 27

    Like you I only recently started playing. Unlike you I got hooked right from the get-go :)

    It took me 4 days in trial to get into basics, leaning heavily on the rookie help channel. After I got the basics straight, the experiences I`ve had ingame has been all positive. The playerrun economy (booming due to THE GREAT WAR), the "trust noone"-attitude and the feeling of a well fitted ship.

    Unlike WoW, AO, COH and other MMORPG`s I`ve played, EVE takes TIME to learn. In WoW I mastered basics in just under 5 minutes. In AO(my first MMORPG) it took me a day to figure out nanos. In COH I didnt even have to think for the first 2-3 days while playing. And then EVE, with its 4 days of hard playing for me to get basics well enough not to feel frustrated at every turn. I love it :) The fact that it`s so hard to get started with makes it alot more valuable to me once I actually have some understanding.

    In the beginning I was a little put of by the long training to get a skillup. I had a vague hint that "learning skills = good" as my only guidance on what skills to train. SO I trained learning. 4 Levels of it. Took ages. Hated it. After askinga round some I was told that I had misunderstood and that I should train stat-skills (eidetic memory and analytical mind primarily) to increase my SP/Hour and thus shorten trainingtimes. Now I have almost doubled my SP/hour and thus halved the trainingtime (all statskills at 4 and starting the leftover special statskills). All in all, since I didnt understand what the skills did and what I should focus on, my character is not optimal. He`s flawed, but I love him to bits as he is :)

    If you ever come ingame again send me a mail or start a convo with me. I may not be the most experienced player in EVE but I have probably met all the problems you will meet in the beginning and been helped through it. Only fair if I give something back to other newbs like me :)

    Uhm, this got a bit longwinded. If you wanna be a producer then I dont know to much about that. However, I meet experienced players every day that start up producers and most people are willing to help out with hints and tips. I suggest you give it another try, but if you don`t have patience then this game may not be for you after all :

     

    Veni, Vidi, Vomite

  • Gr4dientGr4dient Member Posts: 59

    To late to be successful?

    Yep, I'm afraid so.  By the time you get the skills needed to compete with todays builders they will be even further ahead.  Or you could just join a corp and be yet another cog in some powerful player's machine.

  • DreggaDregga Member Posts: 20
    Originally posted by Gr4dient


    To late to be successful?
    Yep, I'm afraid so.  By the time you get the skills needed to compete with todays builders they will be even further ahead.  Or you could just join a corp and be yet another cog in some powerful player's machine.



    Where's your entrepreneurial sprit?  It is always possible to become an industrialist or trader at any point. Sure, you may not rise right to the top in a few weeks or even months. It may take you a couple years to get to the "big leagues", but that's how it is in life too. It's not like you can design a car today and be raking in the moola like Ford or GM tomorrow. There may always be someone with larger operations and more money than you. That shouldn't stop anyone from trying!

    Joining a corporation would be a good start to learning the ropes. You may "feel" like a "cog", but pay attention, aquire ISK and knowledge and when you're ready, you can break away to do your own thing or maybe climb the corporate ladder to run the industrial operations of a megacorporation. There are endless possibilites. But be prepared to wait and earn them. EVE is all about delayed gratification.

     

    Cheers!

  • DoomLordDoomLord Member UncommonPosts: 124
    Eve is a good game but unless your willing to put the time into it you might as well not even bother looking
  • AedosenAedosen Member Posts: 234

    It´s never too late. I started last summer and people were asking the same question back then (and long before that) now I am member of 0.0 corp/alliance and assets worth billions of isk.

    As to production I use it to finance my pvp. Only production related skills I have are production effiency 5, mass production 3 and industry 3. With learning skills done those should take less than 3 weeks together. These skills have been enough for me to make a lof isk in relatively short time since I only really got in to production couple months ago back. In January I had to take a loan to be able to afford buying myself moneymaking battleship and now my account shows 9 digits :) shows how true that t1 production doesn´t make you money talk is  it does take bit efford though to find stuff worth producing but market history is your best help there.

  • bobdogbobdog Member Posts: 71
    I've been playing for 5 days now (ish).  I come from a EQ/EQ2/WoW/VG background, and I find it refreshing.  The learing curve was a friggen brick wall, the tutorial and some aspects of the UI are rough, but once you start to remember what is where, it gets much easier.



    I don't imagine myself in any pvp setting for quite some time.  I am having fun questing and mining and piling up money to get better ships.  I still have alot to learn, and a long ways to go.  But so far I am looking forward to it   Meh, in the least it's fun to screw around with, ya know, 'till something better comes out



    Anyway, good luck.
  • TulisinTulisin Member Posts: 47
    Originally posted by Dicharek

    I played the trial of this game once but I only did the tutorial and quit and uninstalled after just some hours. It's not that I did not like the game, quite the contrary, I find the concept very appealing. However I quit after I messed up my very first mission where I was supposed to get and deliever something, although I misplaced the item I was going to deliever at another station which I later forget where it was, that and the fact that the skill I was training took 19 days to complete... Felt like meaningless time when the trial was only 14 days.



    I admit that I don't know much about the game though, have I completely misunderstood or are there factories which players can buy and run? If so, is it to late to start playing with the intention of owning factories, they should be everywhere by now.



    Setting a 19 day skill off the bat was a mistake, there are dozens of skills that will offer a massive benefit for an hour or two of training at that point.

    As has been said, it is never too late to start. Specialization + skill caps means it only takes so long to do something as good as everyone else.

  • MoobkradMoobkrad Member Posts: 308
    Originally posted by Aedosen


    It´s never too late. I started last summer and people were asking the same question back then (and long before that) now I am member of 0.0 corp/alliance and assets worth billions of isk.
    As to production I use it to finance my pvp. Only production related skills I have are production effiency 5, mass production 3 and industry 3. With learning skills done those should take less than 3 weeks together. These skills have been enough for me to make a lof isk in relatively short time since I only really got in to production couple months ago back. In January I had to take a loan to be able to afford buying myself moneymaking battleship and now my account shows 9 digits :) shows how true that t1 production doesn´t make you money talk is  it does take bit efford though to find stuff worth producing but market history is your best help there.
    You need Industry 5 to get Production Efficiency.



    To the OP, I have played for a while but took a long break. I was all about combat before, now I'm dipping into industry and mining. Is never to late to try it. As everything in life, start small and then as your skills progress you can take on more challenges.
  • AedosenAedosen Member Posts: 234
    Originally posted by Moobkrad

    You need Industry 5 to get Production Efficiency.

    Nope.



    www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/EN/skills/industry/3388.asp

  • SammellSammell Member Posts: 1
    it's never too late to join the game.



    You just have to be smart. If you want to own factories then you have to get some skills and even more important some capital built up.



    There are always things changing in the game, people are building industry empires and others are tearing them down.



    Just be smart, pay attention, and watch out for changes.
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