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Should MMORPG's have a "Mangina" server?
Fugnudz
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Lots of MMORPG's have special ruleset servers such as PVP, Team PVP, Roleplaying and such. But should they have a server where folks who play opposite gender characters can congregate? I'm not talking anything sexual here, just some male players prefer to play female characters and some female players prefer to play male characters. This gets real confusing when having an IM conversation with someone's whose gender is not what you think it is.
Therefore, I propose we "toss all cards on the table" and have a "Mangina" server to encourage such players to congregate where their playstyles are most appreciated.
Thoughts?
(By the way, I'm not one of these folks.)
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What your disapointed when you gave millions of stuff to an lady just to find out it actualy an male :P.
I personly do not have an problem with it and actualy find it very normal. Beside that, majority of the time you can see the differance anyway in behavoir.
If it is dressed sexy or and such an name like "Sexy Chick" You know it is an man, not many female will call themselves that in games
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Thoughts?
a.) Don't flirt with them. This will prevent you from being confused.
b.) I see that you specifically state that you're not "one of them", and..
c.) ...you want to place them all onto a proverbial island (a separate server) "where their play styles are most appreciated".. so,
d.) ...you should probably work on becoming more comfortable with things that exist outside of your restricted life paradigm.
I especially recommend suggestion "a", above, but you seem like you really need to work on "d".
And no, a separate server for cross-gender roleplaying is a bad idea. It's not the game's problem that you assume that cute set of pixels is being driven by a woman in real life, when all statistics to the contrary indicate that is a very bad assumption on your part.
I don't think its a factor you can categorize like that. People will play as female or male toons on any server, they probably would have little interest in going to a special server to do that. Just my opinion though.
Whenever I get PMs about chatting or "a/s/l" or "buttsecks" I politely reply "I'm a dude playing a female character."
I always wonder what the response will be. Sometimes I get the classic kid calling me gay or the like. Othertimes I get no response. Sometimes I get strange reponses asking me to pretend to be female... those scare me.
But you can tell which response to expect by the PM sent in general. Those who just want to chat will continue to chat anyways.
Like somebody said earlier:
Just assume every female avatar is a male until proven otherwise.
I played games with a chick for years before I found out it was a dude. 7 years. To be honest I was more pissed that person didn't come out and just tell me that she was a "woman trapped in a man's body"... I would've understood. Still chat with them regularly.
Sometimes you get ones with stories nobody would lie about. 40 years old, overweight, several kids...
other times you get ones that are completely out in left field: 21, 115lbs, 5'4"... yada yada yada.
There's a famous phrase:
Know when to hold em, know when to fold em.
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I know a ton of chicks that do that.
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Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
Maybe just try to PLAY the game instead of getting stimulated by pixelated boobies.
It's okay dude, really. We think you are manly. Really.
Yes, well, except for the fact that he have hit on guys over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
O, what a typo!! lol...
People, it was just a joke thread.
In my opinion there are 2 different ways at looking at your avatar/character.
Some people see themselves AS their avatar/character, so they create characters in their own image, hence the same gender as they are.
Other's see their avatar/character as a seperate entity from themselves so they create characters that can be anything, because it's not them, it's just someone/something in the game.
Now if you're type 1 above and are creating an opposite gender avatar then maybe you have some issues you need to work out.
However if you're type 2, there's nothing wrong with creating opposite gender characters (or same gender characters for that matter) and all you people who have a problem with it are the ones who have issues. It's a game. People play it differently. Don't assume the way you play it is the way everyone plays and you won't have any problems.
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I don't see anything wrong with males playing females. Usually I use vent and everyone in my guild knows I am a guy.
I don't think these kinds of specific servers are needed. I'll use Guild Wars as an example(though I no longer play). There are some classes on GW that I find work well on the male models, specifically warriors monks and rangers. Likewise, I like the female elementalist, mesmer, and necromancers. Basically I make these decisions based on the ending 15k armor I'm shooting to have on the avatar, because if I'm going to be playing a character for XXXX hours, I want to make sure I have some eyecandy when the background gets boring. So, some of my characters are male, such as the warrior and ranger I made, while others are female, such as my elementalist and necro. I don't think this choice in character gender should affect me because the in-game character is not me, it is a separate identity. The only connection between the two, as James Paul Gee says, is a "projective identity" which basically means me(the RL me) as the in-game character, with emphasis on the as. So when I play a game I am not the person on the screen, but my hopes and ambitions for that character is what developes that character. I'd rather have someone judge me as a smoking hot elementalist who will just as quickly smite you as she would tank 4 hydra solo, rather than being judged as the stereotypical fat guy playing games while ogling the character in front of him because he's anti-social in RL when that's not true.
So basically I'm saying I want to be judged on the merit of my in-game character rather than my outside, RL self.
It is also strange to see people playing toons of the opposite sex and making an effort to hide that fact even from their real life friends, as if it is? a forbidden and shameful act. And the thing is that I could go on writing about toon sex selection policy, and in game behaviour models for hours.
One would say that if our level of expression in-game was higher (e.g. in-game voice and video streaming as part of the basic game requirements) then it would become a non issue as we would always have to show our real sex , with the exception of using voice and video masquerading software. However that requirement creates other problems.
Sex and age are the 2 most important pieces of information that most players would like to know about someone ingame. Currently that info can't be determined without asking and trusting the other party, and that is both good and bad. You could make up your mind about someone by his/her behaviour but you can be wrong, about someone and things will go terribly bad!
If we could determine sex and age with near certainity in game, virtual worlds on average would develop the same grouping structure that we use in reality. (for example: groups of similarly aged people) and that would make MMOGs a more sociable activity.