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Why World of Warcraft is not in the MMORPG.com Top Ranked games list

WizeyWizey Member Posts: 16
Many people have asked me a question : "When WoW really is that good, why isn't it on the first place in the Top Ranked games list?"

Awnser is simple:



Assume there are only 2 car brands, VW and Mercedes,

One group of individuals buy Merc. Reasons: quality, style, awesome driving experience.

Other group buys VW. Reasons: low upkeep cost, owners lack of money, some other reasons.



Car magazine creates a poll "Witch car is better?"

Sience Merc owners are too busy with driving around and enjoying their car, they have zero time to visit the poll,  not  to mention about filling it.

VW owners aren't really sattisfied with their rides sience they know there are better ones out there. So, to compensate that feeling, they vote for their brand in the Car Magazine, witch theoretically rises their morale and creates false vision for other buyers.

On the other hand Merc drivers don't really car about magazine nor the poll, cause deep inside they know, they are driving with better car.










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  • RK-MaraRK-Mara Member Posts: 641
    I have much simpler answer: WoW isn't so great. We MMO veterans on these forums don't like it so much.

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  • DrSmaShDrSmaSh Member UncommonPosts: 454
    Here we go...

    Every time I read your post, I die a little inside...
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    It seems many people hate it because its popular. quite sad actually.



    That WoW is one of the best MMORPG's is not even a subject for debate anymore. the amount of players, the extreme high score from reviews for both the game and its expansion and the huge amount of awards.



    Don't take the ratings on this website serious. they are flawed.
  • cpt.Balerioncpt.Balerion Member Posts: 61
    so you are comparing WoW to mercedes and other mmos to VW? rofl that's hilarious



    I'd say it's the other way around, WoW is obviously a VW, it's the mmo for masses like VW is car for masses, or like McDonald is fastfood for masses, well you get the point

    that's why more people has VW, cause it's cheap, and that's why less people have mercedes even though mercedes has the quality and something MORE, yet it's not for everyone





    or maybe I just misunderstood your post and you are saying same thing as I am



    so your analogy is not working cause as you say in your post, VW (WoW) drivers should be voting a lot more than mercedes

    so yea, you got it all wrong


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  • AlthjofAlthjof Member Posts: 29

    I disagree with OP and somewhat agree with RK-Mara. I guess the majority of people who like WoW is relatively casual and hence reluctant to participate in voting and discussing games. On the other side, there're many veterans among WoW-haters who are capable of defending their favourite games and criticizing WoW. Similarly, many successful in box office terms films are rated quite low at IMDB, but most of them are comedies and action. Meanwhile, while dramas don't get nearly as much money, they are often praised by audience. Frankly speaking, when I started reading your post, I was sure you were going to compare Volkswagen to WoW, not Mercedes. Because it's WoW that is very popular and casual.

    I'd say for my part that WoW is Toyota and, well, "other" games (since you didn't quote any) are Ferraris. Ferrari takes much time from its owner to get used to driving it, it brakes a lot, but these are beautiful cars and driving them gives great pleasure. Toyotas, on the other hand, are reliable and pretty, they do what they're being made for very well, but that's about it.

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  • WerppaWerppa Member Posts: 211
    Another simple answer: the difference is only marginal, only the nr.1 game is on 8.3 points, every other games until nr.15 are in 8.2. So, you can safely imagine WoW being in the 2nd/3rd place if you want because the difference between it and the 2nd game is something like 0.0001 points :P

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  • WizeyWizey Member Posts: 16
    Are you applying that "It isn't so great" is the reason, why it is not in the first place?

    I rather think it is the lack of intrest for 10million ppl to vote.



    To be honest, it is nothing strange that MMO oldschool players dislike new games coming up. I really understand that.  But this doesn't give anyone right to throw dirt .

    I've been in WoW sience beginning and quit this year. Know it has alot of problems to overcome, but witch MMORPG doesn't?
  • DaerthDaerth Member Posts: 8
    WoW aint really that good for my opinion it has annoying graphics and it has no story why dont u wow players get like EQ2 or sumting i dont get any of those cos i hav a pure morality thing in it ill newer pay monthly fees

    Newbie who tryes ewery game that is free =)

  • EverSkellyEverSkelly Member UncommonPosts: 341
    being the most popular, doesn't make it the best
  • WizeyWizey Member Posts: 16
    Wow is in the role of Merc in my post.



    Yes, you are right, VW is for masses in IRL.

    But I didn't look it from this aspect in my comparsion.

    Is WoW  VW of MMORPG world? Awnser is no!

    Something for masses= cheap, bad quality(main factors).

    For masses, there are thousands of free MMORPG-s out there, always have been.

    Blizzard has always put preassure on quality, opposite to EA. Few games but they are all hits.
  • ComanComan Member UncommonPosts: 2,178

    "Based on 7709 total votes. You have not rated this game yet."
    More voted then any other games, maybe the majority of the mercedes owners are simply disapointed that they do not have an ferrari instead?

    Oh what about you? You dislike WoW, becouse you had time to fill in the poll...your the proof that your theory just failed.

  • BernoullyBernoully Member Posts: 174
    *raises hand*



    For those who asked you that question, why do they care about the ratings of WoW on MMORPG.com's list? Is it to theoretically raise their morale and creates false vision for other buyers?



    - Despite having 570k members, MMORPG.com does not represent the majority of all the MMO-gamers in the world. Let them know.

    - There are some folks of WoW that do not know English, for the game was translated in their own tongue; no chance of coming to MMORPG.com to comment. Not a small number if you consider.

    - Human opinions are different, let's respect that.



    I like the car comparison, except for the fact that WoW is more of a car for the masses that have to be paid, when you have other free or cheaper cars created by smaller teams to drive around the whole day.
  • WizeyWizey Member Posts: 16
    Didn't know I even filled any poll here. Must of been wasted while doing that then, I can't really remember



    Most voted? Well you can also give low points you know...
  • cpt.Balerioncpt.Balerion Member Posts: 61
    Originally posted by Wizey

    Wow is in the role of Merc in my post.



    Yes, you are right, VW is for masses in IRL.

    But I didn't look it from this aspect in my comparsion.

    Is WoW  VW of MMORPG world? Awnser is no!

    Something for masses= cheap, bad quality(main factors).

    For masses, there are thousands of free MMORPG-s out there, always have been.

    Blizzard has always put preassure on quality, opposite to EA. Few games but they are all hits.
    so that's why everything in WoW is made simple so even 6 year old can understand it?



    VW is NOT bad quality, VW are quality cars, but it's different type of quality

    WoW is good, just like VW is good, but if you want something special, original, or different you'll look elsewhere (good example could be EVE, or other mmos that are not made for masses like WoW)



    so your analogy is not working mate, WoW is not mercedes, cause in that case it won't have those masses like VW or mcdonald :)



    deal with it, there's nothing wrong with mainstream, there's nothing wrong with liking mcdonald, VW or pop, WoW is for masses, for mainstream they took good things from previous mmos and put them together, just like LOTRO is doing now

    nothing wrong with it, it's not bad, but never will be 'best' :)

    it's like with movies, most people like action and comedies, yet best movies are dramas or such types


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  • WizeyWizey Member Posts: 16
    Originally posted by Coman


    "Based on 7709 total votes. You have not rated this game yet."

    More voted then any other games, maybe the majority of the mercedes owners are simply disapointed that they do not have an ferrari instead?
    Oh what about you? You dislike WoW, becouse you had time to fill in the poll...your the proof that your theory just failed.
    I'm not such fan of WoW now, I just told what I generally think about the whole situation atm. But I don't look back and say that I want to erease that period from my past, cause i really enjoyed it . It is not that Merc is suddenly bad now, it is just I'm looking forward to new brands to come out. Every game get's old and fades some point.
  • ZeroxinZeroxin Member UncommonPosts: 2,515
    The thing is that WoW will always get high review scores and so on but it all depends on what you like and what you feel you should like. The polls are based on this site, whether or not WoW players are to busy playing WoW to place their votes is not this site's concern, its the people who frequent this site, that's who the polls are aimed at. As for me i've never played WoW but would like to see what all the fuss is about, as of now my top rated MMos are EVE, GW and City of heroes.

    This is not a game.

  • guinefortguinefort Member Posts: 47
    Yeah, the car analogy was a little off, but I don't like people flaming WoW because you don't like the graphics. And either way it is their opinion that they like it - you think it's a bad game, don't play it, but don't tell others not to play it because you don't like it. As for the ratings, yes, according to the percentage of people who play World of Warcraft and really like it, it should have 10, but not everyone who plays it is an addict. There are 570,00 members of MMORPG.com, and only 7,000 or so voted at all, an overwhelmingly low percentage. Some people, again, just don't care enough to vote, and there aren't enough members to accurately portray the feelings of the entire gaming community about a game as large as World of Warcraft.
  • WizeyWizey Member Posts: 16
    For me, WoW was different, and original when it came out. Every game that Blizzard creates is somewhat original and unique with alot of effort put into.

  • cpt.Balerioncpt.Balerion Member Posts: 61
    Originally posted by Wizey



    Most voted? Well you can also give low points you know...
    I wonder why anyone would do this??? giving low points to a game? sheesh those people must be retarded! cause they have no idea that a game you like is the best and can't get low points! those are idiots aren't they?

    giving low points to wow, such heresy! they should burn all those people who are rating low on a game they don't like! oh me gawd!


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  • WizeyWizey Member Posts: 16
    Originally posted by cpt.Balerion

    Originally posted by Wizey



    Most voted? Well you can also give low points you know...
    I wonder why anyone would do this??? giving low points to a game? sheesh those people must be retarded! cause they have no idea that a game you like is the best and can't get low points! those are idiots aren't they?

    giving low points to wow, such heresy! they should burn all those people who are rating low on a game they don't like! oh me gawd!

    Burning is too harsh!

    I'd say take away right to vote if you haven't even played the game! But this implementation is impossible.....I guess
  • cpt.Balerioncpt.Balerion Member Posts: 61
    Originally posted by Wizey

    Originally posted by cpt.Balerion

    Originally posted by Wizey



    Most voted? Well you can also give low points you know...
    I wonder why anyone would do this??? giving low points to a game? sheesh those people must be retarded! cause they have no idea that a game you like is the best and can't get low points! those are idiots aren't they?

    giving low points to wow, such heresy! they should burn all those people who are rating low on a game they don't like! oh me gawd!

    Burning is too harsh!

    I'd say take away right to vote if you haven't even played the game! But this implementation is impossible.....I guess well every game has haters and fanbois after all, that's creating some kind balance, like fanbois are giving it 10 and haters 1

    it's like this also on imdb.com, you can' do much about it, fanbois vs. haters, never ending battle! and yet, most people are somewhere in the middle and it shows on the results


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  • StaircaseStaircase Member Posts: 29
    The same goes along with if we don't play it and tell people it's not a good game (i played for 2 months...didn't enjoy it) why go round spreading that it's a good game? let the people find out on their own with a free trial or something.



    And as stated above; WoW is clearly a game for the masses, wheras other games such as Eve are not; these in yor analogy would be the mercs, the ferari's etc, wheras WoW would probably classify as a Vauxhall Corsa, for the masses, works well, nice finish, good and sleak and thousands have it (hundreds of thousands?)



    And in all seriousness...why do we have about 2000 posts a day about WoW? it really just gets annoying in the end...every possible aspect of the game must have been discussed in these forums.



    :)



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  • WizeyWizey Member Posts: 16
    That comparsion was just MY vision of how things are. I don't deny that there can acctually be Ferrari instead of VW. But when people decide to try out new game and take MMORPG.com poll as their main criteria to decide, it might not suit them afterall and in the long run, they feel same as i do. But there are also individuals, who see Ferrari instead of VW in my comparsion and thats quite common.
  • WizeyWizey Member Posts: 16
    Originally posted by Staircase

    The same goes along with if we don't play it and tell people it's not a good game (i played for 2 months...didn't enjoy it) why go round spreading that it's a good game? let the people find out on their own with a free trial or something.



    And as stated above; WoW is clearly a game for the masses, wheras other games such as Eve are not; these in yor analogy would be the mercs, the ferari's etc, wheras WoW would probably classify as a Vauxhall Corsa, for the masses, works well, nice finish, good and sleak and thousands have it (hundreds of thousands?)



    And in all seriousness...why do we have about 2000 posts a day about WoW? it really just gets annoying in the end...every possible aspect of the game must have been discussed in these forums.



    :)



    Staircase
    I think WoW has very small playerbase compared to other free MMORPG-s out there. It might be 1/30th of the free ones.
  • WizeyWizey Member Posts: 16
    My first posted topic here, so thanks for all the replys and suggestions.
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