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March sales figures for Vanguard
_Shadowmage
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20) Vanguard: Saga Of Heroes - Sony Online Entertainment - $533,884 grossed
I am guessing that is only U.S sales figures. So gross of $534,000 is what 15,000 copies?
thats from the www.ve3d.com site - but they dont say where the figures are from so I am assuming U.S
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Is that Sales + monthly subscription?
As far as I know thats pure off the shelf box sales via retail stores.
It'd certainly explain the population difference between launch period and now.
It is also worth noting that "The Burning Crusade" is probably experiencing a fast turn around and Burn as it sold 2.4 million copies in its first 24 hours including preorders. Its the fastest selling PC title of all time i understand. So that would explain its slow moving figures now.
Vanguard sales whilst not horrible, have declined rapidly perhaps due to the release state and the troubled start.
Mag
P.S Burning Crusade Link http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6164555.html
It is also worth noting that "The Burning Crusade" is probably experiencing a fast turn around and Burn as it sold 2.4 million copies in its first 24 hours including preorders. Its the fastest selling PC title of all time i understand. So that would explain its slow moving figures now.
Vanguard sales whilst not horrible, have declined rapidly perhaps due to the release state and the troubled start.
Mag
P.S Burning Crusade Link http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6164555.html It's just the March NPD, i.e. US sales.
And no, it's not horrible if you consider Vanguard a "niche" title, but it doesn't paint a very good picture for a company striving for 200-300k active subscribers.
It is also worth noting that "The Burning Crusade" is probably experiencing a fast turn around and Burn as it sold 2.4 million copies in its first 24 hours including preorders. Its the fastest selling PC title of all time i understand. So that would explain its slow moving figures now.
Vanguard sales whilst not horrible, have declined rapidly perhaps due to the release state and the troubled start.
Mag
P.S Burning Crusade Link http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6164555.html It's just the March NPD, i.e. US sales.
And no, it's not horrible if you consider Vanguard a "niche" title, but it doesn't paint a very good picture for a company striving for 200-300k active subscribers.
That I agree with. I would say that puts them around 200k sold. They have said churn is slow so an optimistic number is somewhere in the 150k active I would say which isnt horrible right now. We shall see how it turns out.
Incredibly optimistic. Keep in mind that retaining even 50% of new subscribers is considered exceptional in the MMO market. Everquest averaged at a 65% retention rate during it's first two years on it's climb towards the 400k mark. 75% is unprecedented, so I doubt it.
Judging by server activity alone, I'd guess less than 100k active subscribers and declining myself. It's kind of difficult to get as many new players as old players are quitting when one does over a hundred thousand one month, then one-tenth of that the next.
I think what is even more interesting is that no PC game made the top 10 yet again and only WoW can hang with the console guys somewhat. Warhammer may be there as well if it lives up to it's hype. (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6169379.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;0)
Top 10 games for March, 2007, based on number of units sold:
1. God of War II--PS2--833,000
2. Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2--Xbox 360--394,000
3. Guitar Hero 2--Xbox 360--291,000
4. Wii Play with Wii Remote--Wii--273,000
5. MotorStorm--PS3--199,000
6. Diddy Kong Racing--Nintendo DS--189,000
7. Spectrobes--Nintendo DS--165,000
8. MLB 2K7--Xbox 360--165,000
9. MLB '07: The Show--PS2--164,000
10. Def Jam Icon--Xbox 360--148,000
I think we may start seeing the end of the PC gaming era. Games like Vanguard that squander $30 million help push it over the edge. Who would put up that kind of money now after seeing what Vanguard did with it? Plus I would hope that no one does another high fantasy game. Really the genre has not changed much since EQ1. Sure WoW made some fancy graphics and eased some of the pain but really it is still all the same.
It is also worth noting that "The Burning Crusade" is probably experiencing a fast turn around and Burn as it sold 2.4 million copies in its first 24 hours including preorders. Its the fastest selling PC title of all time i understand. So that would explain its slow moving figures now.
Vanguard sales whilst not horrible, have declined rapidly perhaps due to the release state and the troubled start.
Mag
P.S Burning Crusade Link http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6164555.html
Didnt find any European numbers, and since Europe is not a single nation it might be difficult to find.
I can give this impression from Germany: it is not much debated in print mags, some didnt review it at all.
In the shelves it is not in the TOP 20 new shelves but there is usually 1 or 2 copies in some back shelf, so it's almost like a hidden, secret game. Unless you ask for it, you hardly find it anywhere. Living in Berlin I have access to the really big shops we have, you I can only assume it will be much worse in smaller cities and smaller shops.
VG is practically like nonexistend here, more or less. Its just one impression, as far as I can see.
Let me just add: I am a conservative gamer. I want a box & DVD & manual. I dont buy downloaded, because I want something to see and grasp, and I think a LOT of gamers are that conservative, so its boxes sold that counts IMO. I know many gamers here and only a VERY tiny number of games any of them every downloaded instead of gotten the box. Its something very like our primate caveman-nature is: you want to slay the beast and drag it into your cave.
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Hehe, so true... And it's a real shame too
What deserves to be done, deserves to be "well" done...
Btw i really LOVE C7C but am somewhat disappointed with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Think my single player addiction can be satisfied with Crysis and still looking forward at Assasin Creed but do hope it doesn't take long for a pc release as i'm not into ps3 atm. Might change over time.
Edit: hmm seems The Sims are actualy also a form of mmorpg so it would make Vanguard the number 3 then. But from the mmorpg gamers i think that do come here not many play Sims. Atleast thats what i think. (not telling fact pure specualtion about the visiters here)
That would make sense since Vanguard is the most current released MMO in over six months or maybe more. Im assuming WoW:BC is number one.
Btw i really LOVE C7C but am somewhat disappointed with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Think my single player addiction can be satisfied with Crysis and still looking forward at Assasin Creed but do hope it doesn't take long for a pc release as i'm not into ps3 atm. Might change over time.
Im very dissapointed with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. as well. Can't stand the fact that you are rewarded with money that you don't use.
Edit: hmm seems The Sims are actualy also a form of mmorpg so it would make Vanguard the number 3 then. But from the mmorpg gamers i think that do come here not many play Sims. Atleast thats what i think. (not telling fact pure specualtion about the visiters here)
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
That would make sense since Vanguard is the most current released MMO in over six months or maybe more. Im assuming WoW:BC is number one. True indeed, even think next month sales will mostlikely get LotrO on top for a while.
Btw i really LOVE C7C but am somewhat disappointed with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Think my single player addiction can be satisfied with Crysis and still looking forward at Assasin Creed but do hope it doesn't take long for a pc release as i'm not into ps3 atm. Might change over time.
Im very dissapointed with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. as well. Can't stand the fact that you are rewarded with money that you don't use. Yup that aswell and the constant rusian bladder from all npc's, which is cool for enemy to hear htem speak russian, but would have liked it to hear some more npc's speak english (might be i'm having a EU version of the game.)
Edit: hmm seems The Sims are actualy also a form of mmorpg so it would make Vanguard the number 3 then. But from the mmorpg gamers i think that do come here not many play Sims. Atleast thats what i think. (not telling fact pure specualtion about the visiters here)
video games best sellers on amazon says it all, where is vanguard? 3 nd LOTRO, 25th WOW.
www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=pd_ts_vg_nav/002-4885224-5687256