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Should Guild Wars have a monthly fee?

PrebThorPrebThor Member UncommonPosts: 452
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Or more importantly: Would you still be playing it? The Guild Wars in-game community as a whole is immature; if you disagree then you are in denial. Could a monthly fee prevent some of these immature players accessing the game? It obviously didn't work out for World of WarCraft, but then again there are rehab clinics for WoW players. This is obviously a "what if" type of question. Thoughts?



My answer is "yes", by the way, I would gladly pay a monthly fee to keep playing Guild Wars.
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  • RacherRacher Member Posts: 4
    I think a lot of people would pay, but seeing as i don't play that much i'm not sure i'd be willing to pay. Also depends on the amount..
  • SecromSecrom Member Posts: 318
    Originally posted by Thorsnes

    Could a monthly fee prevent some of these immature players accessing the game?

    Are you referring to the "it's ok because it's free but if you had to pay this game would be trashed by (insert big mmo name here)" comments? Anyway those who say that got no clue at all, since the game's structure is pretty much based on a "no fee" model (e.g. instances) anyway. If GW had a fee it'd most prolly be a completely different game.

    To answer your question: I doubt so.

    1. Whether your name or your daddy's sit on the credit card, a subscription page is blind...

    2. There is also a risk that a fee would deter just as many decent people.

    It's actually a very good thing that you don't HAVE to play with kiddies.

    However yes personally, I would gladly pay to support the game. I think we actually get too good quality and support for the mere price of a boxed game.

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  • lightbladelightblade Member Posts: 219
    If you think the community is immature, then you haven't played long enough to find a good guild.  The behavior of iindividual does not represent the community as a whole.
  • ComanComan Member UncommonPosts: 2,178

    Originally posted by Thorsnes
    Or more importantly: Would you still be playing it? The Guild Wars in-game community as a whole is immature; if you disagree then you are in denial. Could a monthly fee prevent some of these immature players accessing the game? It obviously didn't work out for World of WarCraft, but then again there are rehab clinics for WoW players. This is obviously a "what if" type of question. Thoughts?

    My answer is "yes", by the way, I would gladly pay a monthly fee to keep playing Guild Wars.

    What you will do is remove the treu players, becouse they can not afford it (Or in a lot of cases the wife does not allow an other subscription fee :P ), becouse those annoying kids, will use the moms or dads CC anyway to pay for the game.

    Just look at WoW, enough Immature poeple in there, no more or less then in Guild Wars.

  • ConleyConley Member Posts: 195
     

    Considering I payd for products that are far inferior like FF11 and Vanguard: Saga of Bugs, the answer is yes, I would be willing to pay subscription. But lets please close this topic, we don’t want Arenanet to find out.  ;)

  • RPGnubRPGnub Member Posts: 96
    Eh... The question is kind of pointless really. The game has been designed to work without monthly fees and this has been used as one of the main catch phrases in its marketing. I find it awesome just how much work is going into this game even now when the developers could have just as well said: "You bought your game, now have fun with it. No monthly fees means we don't owe you jack". A certain other MMoRPG offered much less in this area even with monthly fees and millions of subscribers. >.>



    I actually still wonder how GW generates enough revenue to be profitable...
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,079
    It seems that you are trying to remove the immature players by charging a fee for a game.  As you noted, that doesn't really impact WOW very much, as truthfully 14.99 per month is a fee that I and a number of my son's friends parents all willing pay for our children. (even the ones that aren't gamers). 



    Truthfully, for this approach to have any serious impact you'd have to jack the fees up to very high levels, say, 49.99 per month or more, and even then it would do nothing to screen out the huge amount of jerks I've met and dealt with that are in their 20's and 30's.  (Seems by time they get to their 40's they've either learned better or just aren't enough around to be very visible)



    So no, GW shouldn't have a monthly fee, nothing would be accomplished by it other than to ruin a unique and successful marketing concept that many players buy and play the game for.

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  • kadaganetkadaganet Member Posts: 6
    no. why? cause its alt ego as wow. and many users leave wow to play gw, cause its free, u dont need pay every month for playing it.  i understand that developers wana do it, maybe, cuz they need money to keep it up, but.... no.

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  • Drow_RangerDrow_Ranger Member Posts: 49
    NO i would NOT like a subscription fee bcuz i play this game because of the free online play. i dont have time to spend playing games 24/7 just to get my $'s worth
  • PrebThorPrebThor Member UncommonPosts: 452
    All good points guys. Some obvious, some less obvious. As usual my post struck a nerve (just as I was hoping for). There's no doubt that World of WarCraft spread like a plague through media and word of mouth. That said, I don't get the same feeling about Guild Wars, it's almost as if people go "Err... Guild Wars... yeah, let's talk about something else, eh?", then throws in a comment about it's free so it must suck or that it's not really a MMO. This game is highly underrated! Yes, the game is free of monthly fees and because of that very same reason will appeal to many players (especially those who can't afford a subscription) and succeed financially. As many players have questioned earlier: "How the hell can ArenaNet offer such high quality in a game without charging a monthly fee?" Beats me. I almost feel spoiled playing Guild Wars: The game speaks for itself, the developers always listen to us, the players, and then gives us what we want. Updates are NEVER for the worse, the game just gets better and better (ArenaNet has only made ONE "mistake" so far, and that was the AI update around the release of GW:Nightfall which caused a huge uproar, but when players settled down the update made sense. Hardly a mistake). I just may have answered my own question already, but I'm still wondering: "How the hell do they do it!?"
  • PrebThorPrebThor Member UncommonPosts: 452
    Originally posted by lightblade

    If you think the community is immature, then you haven't played long enough to find a good guild.  The behavior of iindividual does not represent the community as a whole.
    I find these statements very contradictory. A community is made out of individuals. If you need a good guild to enjoy (or actually ignore the majority of) the community, then the game obviously hasn't got a good community. Just my two cents...
  • JacobinJacobin Member RarePosts: 1,009
    A monthly fee would do nothing to remove immature people from GW or anwhere else. You would be better off lobbying your government to raise taxes and spend more on the education system if you dislike idiots to the point where they ruin your online gaming experience.



    Morons are just a part of the internet no matter where you go. I don't even understand why people judge games based on the community because if you measure it by the number of idiots you encounter, you will soon realize that every game has a crappy community. If anything, finding people who are not idiots and don't suck is part of the fun, at least for me.



    If a game is fun, and people want to play it, then idiots with nothing better to do but spam and get a rise out of people will show up regardless of monthly fees. Its a reality of online gaming that there is no way to really avoid except through /ignore and general chat disable.
  • volnorevolnore Member Posts: 5
    i think  games like guild wars  bring in people that are inmature because its for them  come on kids love dudes with powers and skill etc. on the other hand you would lose half of the players because of  the fees because thats the only reason most gamers play it
  • ASmith84ASmith84 Member Posts: 979
    HELL NO.  no monthly fee makes this game so great.  if you cant stand immature players than just ignore them.  plus payin no monthly fee makes people actually have lives without tryin to get the most out of what they paid for. 
  • exanimoexanimo Member UncommonPosts: 1,301

    not true , rich people with credit cards are also imature ass holes , it as nothing to do with monthly fee.

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  • volnorevolnore Member Posts: 5
    if people had to p2p this game i think they would rather play a better game for their money like wow or lieage2
  • exanimoexanimo Member UncommonPosts: 1,301

    i was going to pay 62 us for a full cable tv pack , with all the channels possible , and i dont even watch tv , my luck , i live in a old building with complex rouff , for some reason they cant reach my house !

    anyway , if i had to pay 50 a month to play guildwars , i would pay it , becose its the only game i play and i dont feel like finding another one.

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  • Man1acMan1ac Member Posts: 1,428
    Originally posted by neoteo


    not true , rich people with credit cards are also imature ass holes , it as nothing to do with monthly fee.
    I couldn't agree more. GW doesn't have a monthly fee so hardcore and less hardcore playerscan enjoy it without any worries. I personally love that fact and always will, gw2 wont' have a subscription and yet it will have a persistant world, go Anet!

    We're all Geniuses. Most of us just don't know it.

  • ComanComan Member UncommonPosts: 2,178

    Originally posted by volnore
    if people had to p2p this game i think they would rather play a better game for their money like wow or lieage2image

    How come you assume players of this game think these games are better? They really ain't.

  • AseenusAseenus Member UncommonPosts: 1,844
    ok let me get this straight... u would rather pay money rather then to play for free...



    ill tell u y u would gladly pay money.. because u dont work, i dont mean to flame but ur coming across as if u spend parents money not even knowing where it came from.. weather u say u do work or dont i really dont care, working is not fun and games and i along side many others would rather play gw for free rather then paying for it... i already pay for wow every month honestly if gw2 came with a fee i would uninstall it and never play again, i have no intention to pay $40 a month just for games..



    if for example u played guild wars 2 for two years and payed $20 a month... you would spend $480.. mate i could get myself 2 new speakers for my car... u get my drift...



    and dont tell arena net things like "i would pay monthly" the more people say this the more a-net will think about putting  a monthly fee on  ><



    how about this... since u got so much money u dont mind throwing away, instead of paying $20 a month for gw2 send the money to africa, people are starving there >_>
  • PrebThorPrebThor Member UncommonPosts: 452
    Originally posted by Aseenus

    ok let me get this straight... u would rather pay money rather then to play for free...



    ill tell u y u would gladly pay money.. because u dont work, i dont mean to flame but ur coming across as if u spend parents money not even knowing where it came from.. weather u say u do work or dont i really dont care, working is not fun and games and i along side many others would rather play gw for free rather then paying for it... i already pay for wow every month honestly if gw2 came with a fee i would uninstall it and never play again, i have no intention to pay $40 a month just for games..



    if for example u played guild wars 2 for two years and payed $20 a month... you would spend $480.. mate i could get myself 2 new speakers for my car... u get my drift...



    and dont tell arena net things like "i would pay monthly" the more people say this the more a-net will think about putting  a monthly fee on  ><



    how about this... since u got so much money u dont mind throwing away, instead of paying $20 a month for gw2 send the money to africa, people are starving there >_>
      Who are you referring to? I see you mention Guild Wars, so at least you're on the right topic. Hmm.
  • AseenusAseenus Member UncommonPosts: 1,844
    lol thats all u got to say... haha no worries go back to ascalon and run around killing char k thnx :)
  • AseenusAseenus Member UncommonPosts: 1,844
    Originally posted by lightblade

    If you think the community is immature, then you haven't played long enough to find a good guild.  The behavior of iindividual does not represent the community as a whole.
    i will agree with this man over here, not to the op of this thread but to others ill just say...



    no mmorpg has got a perfect community, some worse then others but thats besides the point, out of all the millions playing any mmorpg all u gotta do is find the right people u fit in with, every mmo has got at least 40% of people decent, weather it be a guild or simply friends, u just gotta find ur place :)
  • PrebThorPrebThor Member UncommonPosts: 452
    I find it hard to imagine ArenaNet charging a monthly fee because of this thread. How paranoid can you get? ArenaNet has already promised that there will NOT be a monthly fee for Guild Wars. Immaturity put aside: Does the game's standards hold up compared to other games, or are you just playing it because it's "one of those free games"?



    Let me rephrase my question: Would Guild Wars be WORTH paying a monthly fee to play?
  • ginatroutginatrout Member Posts: 48
    Okay...I play both WoW and GW concurrently.  I make enough money to pay for fees if Arenanet decided to go that route with GW.  But would it get rid of the immature a-hats that I sometimes run into in GW...hell no.  I run into a gamut of idiots in WoW...from the 10yr olds having tantrums to "adults" who are obsessed with their mothers...and believe me, money is no deterent for stupiditiy.  I like GW for what it is...and I personally like the fact that not everyone in the game is out epeening each other over gear.   Community is what you make out of it...and that holds true for any game.



    So yes I would pay for it...since I enjoy it and spend some time in it.  That's not to say that I dont enjoy the zero monthly fee...for me thats a nice bonus.
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