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Is BLIX the Saviour of Star Wars Galaxies?
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Speculation would not be permissible in a legitimate debate - it makes you seem desperate to validate your belief that SWG is doomed.
Prove that its not, or be silent.
We barely remember who or what came before this precious moment;
We are choosing to be here right now -Tool, Parabola
- Those that want their game back
- Those that wander by and want to share some memories or ask some questions
- Those that post completly assine things just to stir up controversy and get a conversation going. I donno maybe they don't have any friends or family they can have conversations with?
My guess is that the vast majority are #'s 1 and 2.
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SWG - Killed by $OE
WOW - Retired
Playing WAR
1st heavy server since NGE?
www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/119641show me some screenies of a massive pvp war at this restus. heavy should therefore mean there is 50+ people there.
Exactly... there's no need to....
There's no need to be immersed in anything or no need to be immersed in anything with anyone else.
You're right, no need.... No need....
Let me ask you... Mr. I-Play-SWG:NGE.... Why are you in a veterans REFUGE forum? If you can't come up with an answer to this, then leave, because you have done nothing but troll, and I've done nothing for you bar feeding. I slap myself on the hand for that now.
People here want other peoples opinions who are in the same situation as they,
you may be a vet, but you certainly are no refugee, and a 50% is an F.
EDIT: spelling bits
You forgot one type of person.....
The one that comes to the veteran refuge trying to convice people the game is doing better and trying to get them to come back.
But here are my comments, even though I feel like I am beating a dead horse.
To all the NGE players:
I think it's a safe bet that the majority of us here on this forum, feel that the game is dead. I just don't know how to put it in any simpler terms. And if that weren't enough, we don't like the gameplay the game gives us now.
The CU didn't bother me that bad, but the aspects of the game that I loved and enjoyed were destroyed by the NGE, specifically the merging of all the diverse professions into the condensed nine. I truly enjoyed the capability to create a "jack-of-all-trades" type of character without any restrictions (except for points).
I have seen how the devs have tried to replicate this with their "45" points system, but it is flawed at best. I think that having to learn one skill more than once to get a better one is rather rediculous. In the old system, once you had gained enough XP, the skill was pretty much yours, and to advance up a tree, all you had to do was gain the XP.
I can remember somewhere in this thread a mention of D&D being a level-based game, and that is true. However, everyone copies that model, and I think we can all agree that the lack of diversity is boring, right?
And that is what made SWG so interesting to me and alot of other people, it was different, and not just to be different, but different in a good-way.
Also, the combat system in it's current form is retarded. Although to be honest, I never liked the combat system in SWG to begin with. The notion that I can hit someone, but then have to wait 2.3 seconds before I can hit them again is just silly to me. It's a fast-paced turn-based system in a package with a different name. I think hitpoints are stupid also. If it shoot someone in the head with a large-enough calliber bullet, or hard-enough with a blunt object, they die. They don't loose X number of hit-points. My point here is REALISM! Anyway, I am getting off-track.
The population numbers that have been researched here by others, (I logged into, and I concur the population is almost non-existant. No, I am not going to post screen-shots, the point is moot) proves in my mind that the game is dying.
All in all, like I said earlier if you like SWG in it's current form then by all means, have fun. As for me, unless they change the combat, movement, and skill systems, I just can't have fun in this game.
I really don't know how to respond. Your overgeneralizations and complete imaginary construct of me must be just so complete, yet totally inaccurate, that it gives you such a feeling of self richeousness. But hey, whatever gives you reason to get up in the morning is fine with me.
Debate without emotion? Well, I'm not bringing any emotion to this. Of course, I'd say your debating skills are what is lacking, since you haven't brought one fact to the table and you only "win" by debasing your opponents.
As for being "only an observer".. I've been back for 3 separate vet trials before the housing scam one. I've tried out every class except crafting and Jedi. The server was EMPTY. I even /who and get barely anyone. NO people on Danthomir. 3 on Corellia. That's during PRIME. I've been on EMU tests more populated. I also have close friends who won't give up on the game and constantly complain there's nobody to interact with. .. hell, my senator friend plays WoW more than SWG.
Population aside, they've taken out the best parts of the game. You can't argue that. You tried, but then you wanted to check out my ass when I walk. "Carry myself". I know how it is.
I'll admit that the game has improved, but ONLY since the nge was pushed. That's when it went back to alpha and hit rock bottom. It couldn't get any worse after the nge, so by that standard, it has improved ever so slightly.
But is it anywhere near a good game? No. Smed said so himself. Will it ever get near good? No. Not with the cutback design team and the fact that the game will not have enough time. They already have too few players and too much age on the game.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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What everyone here fails to realize is that swg was not that great of a game from the beginning, and it has always been plagued with bugs.
The only reason why I play on and off is because Im a Star Wars fan, and if I wasnt I wouldnt even play the game at all. But I must say that the new deve team is doing a much better job at communication and making challenging complex game systems like Beast Master and making MOB AI smarter and harder hitting.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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Cheers
SOE knows what you like... You don't!
And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Maybe they should rename it "Negative Creep Refuge."
Your the one who is a liar. Bloodfin is packed RIGHT NOW. Over in the Current Player forum someone posted screens of Bloodfin hitting "Heavy Load" status at the server select screen (it's like that a lot of the time).
You are the one that is delusional.
See, in your way of thinking the game will NEVER be fun again and you have bizarre fantasies about SOE's demise. The game is becoming a worthy MMO again (worthy of the name Star Wars).
People like you that can't see the forest for the trees. I could've sworn I've heard all this crap from Wepps before. Did they start cloning humans already?
SOE knows what you like... You don't!
And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
What I love about the fanbois is that they come here to tout after every patch! OMG look at what they are giving us, this is so much better! You guys should come back!!!one1one!
When are they going to get it through their thick heads that all these new, wonderful content was there already, and better?!?!
SOE knows what you like... You don't!
And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
They are not just bringing stuff back. They are expanding and improving on the original design (see campsites as an example).
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
They are not just bringing stuff back. They are expanding and improving on the original design (see campsites as an example).
Yes, a few people enjoy it.
And as far as the camps? NEW AND IMPROVED, now removing all those pesky Rangers. Complete with a new painting that says "F-YOU, you thought it was FUN???".
Oh yeah. They're bringing stuff back as a shadow of its former glory in a game system that sucks balls.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
See you in the dream..
The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.
Blix is an idiot. Yes, he's the lead designer of SWG (minus 90% of it's peak player base). He will NEVER be trusted with that again. He should have declined that promotion and stuck to being a grunt Dev.
move along nikoz, another NGE player in denial, thinking "ZOMG they gave us a 10th class!!1!!111!!!" When in they beginning they had OVER 20, yes dont have a stroke, i mean if you get excited over a 10th class that was already in there. All SOE is doing is spraying some lysol on a turd.
Playing: EVE Online
Favorite MMOs: WoW, SWG Pre-cu, Lineage 2, UO, EQ, EVE online
Looking forward to: Archeage, Kingdom Under Fire 2
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There are currently 13 professions (4 crafting professions). In a couple weeks there will be 2 more added (Beast Master & Droid Commander) plus another melee class in discussion (a mix of Teras Kasi and Swordsman). That will make it a total of 16 classes in the current state of SWG. Of course, more are sure to follow.
"ZOMG they gave us a 10th class!!1!!111!!!"
Really man, who talks like that?
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.