Best executed, well designed, most boring game in the world

Fugnudz · May 2007

Tolerable. That's all I can say about WOW: tolerable. Other MMORPG's these days are not tolerable. But WOW, I can log into and play, and it's about enjoyable as eating a bowl full of cornflakes with no sugar (when you really want bacon and eggs).

Bland, well done, and a droll way to pass the time. Like watching TV you really don't want to watch, but you can stand it and there's nothing else going on at the moment.

Face it, our best gaming days are behind us.

Aseenus · May 2007

k congratulations

Volkmar · May 2007

Originally posted by Fugnudz

Tolerable. That's all I can say about WOW: tolerable. Other MMORPG's these days are not tolerable. But WOW, I can log into and play, and it's about enjoyable as eating a bowl full of cornflakes with no sugar (when you really want bacon and eggs).
Bland, well done, and a droll way to pass the time. Like watching TV you really don't want to watch, but you can stand it and there's nothing else going on at the moment.
Face it, our best gaming days are behind us.

...

Ok. I'll let you live in the past. Me? I loved the past, I'm enjoying the present and sure as hell will be here to enjoy all the new stuff coming out in the future!

If WoW is a bland game, then let's have more of them! only... different because we already have enough games like it

KelpyDude · May 2007

I guess it depends on the server.

retrospectic · May 2007

Originally posted by Fugnudz

Tolerable. That's all I can say about WOW: tolerable. Other MMORPG's these days are not tolerable. But WOW, I can log into and play, and it's about enjoyable as eating a bowl full of cornflakes with no sugar (when you really want bacon and eggs).
Bland, well done, and a droll way to pass the time. Like watching TV you really don't want to watch, but you can stand it and there's nothing else going on at the moment.
Face it, our best gaming days are behind us.

You forgot to add the tiny fiddle which plays just for you.

Fugnudz · May 2007

Originally posted by retrospectic

Originally posted by Fugnudz

Tolerable. That's all I can say about WOW: tolerable. Other MMORPG's these days are not tolerable. But WOW, I can log into and play, and it's about enjoyable as eating a bowl full of cornflakes with no sugar (when you really want bacon and eggs).
Bland, well done, and a droll way to pass the time. Like watching TV you really don't want to watch, but you can stand it and there's nothing else going on at the moment.
Face it, our best gaming days are behind us.

You forgot to add the tiny fiddle which plays just for you.

It's not playing just for me. I'm not alone in my opinion on WOW.

BizkitNL · May 2007

Opinions are opinions.

But yeah. The good old Sonic vs Mario days are gone.

0k21 · May 2007

no he isn't alone, since I agree with him as this is one of the least trolling and unbiased views on World of Warcraft I have seen for awhile now and yes, that includes the positive to fanboi reviews as well, get used to it, a lot of people who are playing the game now even have this opinion and I know because I'm friends with quite a few of them, the decent ones anyway.

JADEDRAG0N · May 2007

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Opinions are opinions.
But yeah. The good old Sonic vs Mario days are gone.

Yea mario Pawnzored Sonic in the end.

GO MARIO

alyndale · May 2007

Originally posted by Fugnudz

Tolerable. That's all I can say about WOW: tolerable. Other MMORPG's these days are not tolerable. But WOW, I can log into and play, and it's about enjoyable as eating a bowl full of cornflakes with no sugar (when you really want bacon and eggs).
Bland, well done, and a droll way to pass the time. Like watching TV you really don't want to watch, but you can stand it and there's nothing else going on at the moment.
Face it, our best gaming days are behind us.

Folks, remember that the OP is stating a personal opinion here and by no means is there any evidence or fact that WoW is boring for everyone.

Boredom is in the "eye of the beholder". Boredom is the tendency of the young and restless. Boredom is an aspect of the few that lack focus or effort. Boredom has nothing to do with the game itself, but the player and their inability to be creative and problem-solve ways to make an MMO fun.

There was a time when MMO's were considered as roleplaying games.

Very difficult to be "bored" when you are creating adventures with your guild mates as you quest, craft, and raid.

If you are bored and have some personal vendetta against a game because you are bored, then by all means, move on to something else. Try an FPS...RPS..go outside and play some tennis, golf, racket ball. Call an actual real-life friend for a movie, go out on a date with the opposite sex, visit a museum, go to Barnes and Nobles, take dance lessons, start writing your memiors, create your own web site, visit the public zoo, go sky diving, you and your family journey out of town and go camping, go fishing with a relative, go swimming, go work out, meet friends at a sports bar, play some pool(billiards), take up painting, take a friend to the park and picnic, and many, many more other opportunities out there for you.

There is really no excuse for being bored over a cartoon.

Do something else that you enjoy doing.

Boredom is simply an excuse for frustration.

HappyFunBall · May 2007

I agree with Fugn. I also believe our best gaming days are behind us.

I've been gaming for a *really* long time. I was gaming when many of you were in diapers.

Games coming out today are uncreative, bland, and boring. They lack a certain spark (or magic) that games in the past once had.

I check out each MMO as they come out, and am severely disappointed. !Especially! the free and Asian games. They are f-ing horrible. They are all carbon copies of each-other, with very little REAL differences, have 10 year old graphics and technology behind them, and add NOTHING new to the genre. Man, how many anime-looking MMO's do you need exactly? Don't these producers feel like morons for just blatantly copying every other Asian/other game?

It's 2007 and several (many really) games have come out recently with a locked 800x600 resolution? WTF? Isn't that what Diablo ran at around 10 YEARS ago?

Domestic games are no better. It's always hype, waiting, and more hype. Then they finally deliver, and it's buggy, unplayable crap. Well, at least most to all domestic games run at 1600x1200!

I've sadly watch RPG's completely die from the scene, only to replaced with countless swat-type games. Blah.. One good one is all I needed.

What happened to fantasy RPG's? I grew up on these things. The Ultima series, and so many others. All we have now is Oblivion. ONE rpg vs. 100 moronic 1st-person rouge/s.w.a.t/etc games.

Blah... *still* waiting for an engaging, fun, non-95% grinding MMO to come out. I've been waiting for a while..

0k21 · May 2007

You know what Alyndale try getting a bloody dictionary and finding out what boredom means instead of trying to twist words to a way you want, at first I thought that you were actually alright for bothering to post more than one line, but it seems that this was nothing more than a flame directed at the OP for posting a negative opinion about WoW, have fun in l33tland.

I have to agree, the MMORPG industry is pretty dead right now but I'm hoping that the new games coming out in 2008 will bring a golden age, right now it's just grind grind grind, I sadly see this trend happening even in the Single Player RPG's but thankfully the quests are interesting enough that your mind is kept off it *coughs* NWN2 *coughs* I really hope games like Darkfall (no it isn't vaporware, if it is then prove it) or even the new Firefly MMORPG that's supposed to be planned for release by 2008 will get the MMORPG industry out of the grind fest. I can safely say though I think that developers are finally beginning to realize that level based grind games will not last as long as real skill based MMORPG's, simply because the communities have gotten so hardcore they've managed to plow their way through the content in a couple of months, an example would be with World of Warcraft itself, I heard about how some people in TBC managed to get to level 70 in only a couple of days, so it looks like developers are really going to be forced to think creatively now instead of just trying to make time sinks and money makers.

retrospectic · May 2007

Coming on the WoW forum of the MMORPG.com website and trying to flame WoW is pretty ridulous in my opinion. The horse has long died and your continual beating is pointless.

I made the "smallest fiddle" statement because unlike most people you basically just whined that you were playing a game you hated.

The last time I checked you can stop playing and pick up another game. If you feel like the whole genre of entertainment is lousy then switch to fishing or bowling. I'm sure you'll find something interesting outside the genre.

This crosses the line into troll area.

retrospectic · May 2007

Also, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan, Pirates of the Burning Sea, and Blizzards unannounced MMORPG are on their way.

You'd find it humorous to read threads made by players who were burned out on EverQuest. WoW came out and owned everyone for a while. Same thing is happening now. Just wait for the next big thing and shut up for a year or so. Then come back and say AW WAR IS BORING GAMES ARE DED QQ

Volkmar · May 2007

Originally posted by HappyFunBall

I agree with Fugn. I also believe our best gaming days are behind us.

I've been gaming for a *really* long time. I was gaming when many of you were in diapers.

Games coming out today are uncreative, bland, and boring. They lack a certain spark (or magic) that games in the past once had.

I check out each MMO as they come out, and am severely disappointed. !Especially! the free and Asian games. They are f-ing horrible. They are all carbon copies of each-other, with very little REAL differences, have 10 year old graphics and technology behind them, and add NOTHING new to the genre. Man, how many anime-looking MMO's do you need exactly? Don't these producers feel like morons for just blatantly copying every other Asian/other game?

It's 2007 and several (many really) games have come out recently with a locked 800x600 resolution? WTF? Isn't that what Diablo ran at around 10 YEARS ago?

Domestic games are no better. It's always hype, waiting, and more hype. Then they finally deliver, and it's buggy, unplayable crap. Well, at least most to all domestic games run at 1600x1200!

I've sadly watch RPG's completely die from the scene, only to replaced with countless swat-type games. Blah.. One good one is all I needed.

What happened to fantasy RPG's? I grew up on these things. The Ultima series, and so many others. All we have now is Oblivion. ONE rpg vs. 100 moronic 1st-person rouge/s.w.a.t/etc games.

Blah... *still* waiting for an engaging, fun, non-95% grinding MMO to come out. I've been waiting for a while..

guess you missed neverwinter nights 2, gothic 3, titan quest, silverfall then? not to speak of console rpgs.

ever came to think that maybe, just MAYBE, the change happened in you? *I* realized there are things i liked as a kid and i do not like now. example? i was a football fan when i was younger (soccer). i could not miss a match... wasn't a fanatic, no, but got discussions with the friends, got to the stadium couple time and so on...

now? i do not care. i could really care less about soccer. does it mean soccer nowadays is all crap? no! just it does not appeal to me anymore and it is not because it is any worse quality than before, i just changed.

Honestly? i can't say if i am having more fun now or then... but i'm having fun and that is what matters.

finally... what do you expect from free to play games? no really... why do you think they are free to play eh?

Josher · May 2007

I've played every MMORPG before WOW and they weren't nearly as polished or as much fun. I've played loads of action games for 25+ years and I had just as much fun playing God of War II as I did Yars Revenge or Final Fight when I was a kid. But the thing is, Yars Revenge and FInal Fight suck NOW compared to God of War II and I bet I would've loved GOW2 WAAAAY more when I was 8 or 9. Games are always getting better. Its those foggy rosey glasses that people need to remove sometimes=)

If MMORPGs are only tolerable for you, find another hobby and save yourself the grief. Why people play games for any period of time that aren't anything but fun is mind boggling.

summitus · May 2007

Originally posted by Fugnudz

Tolerable. That's all I can say about WOW: tolerable. Other MMORPG's these days are not tolerable. But WOW, I can log into and play, and it's about enjoyable as eating a bowl full of cornflakes with no sugar (when you really want bacon and eggs).
Bland, well done, and a droll way to pass the time. Like watching TV you really don't want to watch, but you can stand it and there's nothing else going on at the moment.
Face it, our best gaming days are behind us.

My goodness you are feeling very Doom and gloom ,do you not think this is a little unfair on WOW ?

Gameloading · May 2007

Originally posted by Fugnudz

Originally posted by retrospectic

Originally posted by Fugnudz

Tolerable. That's all I can say about WOW: tolerable. Other MMORPG's these days are not tolerable. But WOW, I can log into and play, and it's about enjoyable as eating a bowl full of cornflakes with no sugar (when you really want bacon and eggs).
Bland, well done, and a droll way to pass the time. Like watching TV you really don't want to watch, but you can stand it and there's nothing else going on at the moment.
Face it, our best gaming days are behind us.

You forgot to add the tiny fiddle which plays just for you.

It's not playing just for me. I'm not alone in my opinion on WOW. There are also many who disagree with you.

0k21 · May 2007

that maybe so Gameloading, but at least if someone disagrees with my I argue in a relatively reasonable way (most of the time) instead of just attacking anyone who seems to not like World of Warcraft and yes, I've read the posts you've made, quite a lot of them do nothing but praise WoW completely taking out any of it's bad points.

retrospectic · May 2007

Originally posted by 0k21

that maybe so Gameloading, but at least if someone disagrees with my I argue in a relatively reasonable way (most of the time) instead of just attacking anyone who seems to not like World of Warcraft and yes, I've read the posts you've made, quite a lot of them do nothing but praise WoW completely taking out any of it's bad points.

If the OP made a clear and logical statement in the beginning of the thread I would see your point here. Instead the OP basically said "I play a game I don't want to play GAMES ARE DYING!!!!1one!1111"

If you want to debate the pros and cons of WoW start a topic with a good opening statement. I'll respond.

0k21 · May 2007

Oh I'm sorry for not posting a glowing review of how great and mighty WoW is, I don't consider it worth my time anymore simply because a) people like you don't read them anyway and b) I've wasted too much time trying to make proper arguments with the over zealous trolls in this forum

retrospectic · May 2007

Originally posted by 0k21

Oh I'm sorry for not posting a glowing review of how great and mighty WoW is, I don't consider it worth my time anymore simply because a) people like you don't read them anyway and b) I've wasted too much time trying to make proper arguments with the over zealous trolls in this forum

I would rather see someone make a review that was negative and still logical/true. Most of the time the only kind of negative press WoW gets is some sort of overly exaggerated flame about Warlocks or patch notes. I've also witnessed a player make up a fake news article that stated WoW subscription numbers dropped.

Otherwise you fall into the same catagory as the other people on the forum. You get jaded by the inability of 11 year olds to make a solid rebuttle and get furious at "fanbois" who can easily outdo any poorly executed flame towards a game that is successful (8mil subs = win for most people).

I'll debate it anyday.

0k21 · May 2007

Very well then, I'll do a short summary of the things that I have said constantly in the World of Warcraft forum in my past post before the topics got flamed completely, WoW has a terrible community because it is mostly made up of trolls, flamers and downright bullies though if you look careful enough you'll find some good friends, the environments are done on a reasonable level but the character design is pretty poor except for maybe some of the clothing but it is mostly just textured over the model of the character. Roleplaying is basically non existent now because of the hundreds of PvErs and PvPers that just suddenly poured onto them and as for the gameplay, very basic, animations aren't varied and most of the time regardless of how short the levelling is, it feels like a complete grind especially once you get into the higher levels, I have also found that PvP is nothing more than a grind because you can only win by ganking constantly or zerging in the BG's. The one thing that WoW is reasonably good for is raiding, though it mostly is hardcore because the loot takes forever to drop so that means that instances must be repeated again and again until a certain person gets a certain item they want.

That's my opinion of WoW, debate all you want, but don't expect me to listen much if all you do is flame.

retrospectic · May 2007

Originally posted by 0k21

WoW has a terrible community because it is mostly made up of trolls, flamers and downright bullies though if you look careful enough you'll find some good friends,

the environments are done on a reasonable level but the character design is pretty poor except for maybe some of the clothing but it is mostly just textured over the model of the character.

Roleplaying is basically non existent now because of the hundreds of PvErs and PvPers that just suddenly poured onto them and as for the gameplay, very basic,

animations aren't varied and most of the time regardless of how short the levelling is, it feels like a complete grind especially once you get into the higher levels,

I have also found that PvP is nothing more than a grind because you can only win by ganking constantly or zerging in the BG's.

The one thing that WoW is reasonably good for is raiding, though it mostly is hardcore because the loot takes forever to drop so that means that instances must be repeated again and again until a certain person gets a certain item they want.

That's my opinion of WoW, debate all you want, but don't expect me to listen much if all you do is flame.

Ok, I broke it into bullet points for you. What immediately bothers me is that the first point you make is pretty much a user specfic argument. You don't like the community. Did you try switching sides? Did you attempt a new server? Did you try joining different guilds? I run with a mature group of casual gamers that fit my playstyle. I'm not flaming, but I'd like to hear what attempts you made to fix this problem.

Your second point is about the graphical level of WoW. I often see this topic brought up, and every time it comes down to taste and system. If you are running a powerhouse computer WoW looks dated, but to those with low-end systems (like me) WoW is great. The armor and weapons look great for the small system reqs.

I don't roleplay, but I think that argument falls under the first point. What did you do to attempt to make friends or switch sides/servers to attempt to establish a community. I know there is a roleplaying forum on the WoW site. I bet people make connections there.

Animations fall under the low system req = pretty debate. Your opinion is just as valid as mine. I enjoy the easy system reqs and fine the WoW art interesting and creative.

Grinding is another debate we have on the forums often. Every MMORPG I've enjoyed has had some sort of grind that seperates those who want instant gratification with those who enjoy risk vs. reward. I know grinding can be difficult, but I like that accomplishing something in WoW takes time. If someone who hardly played could accomplish what a raider could, I doubt people would raid.

I agree with you on the PvP aspect of WoW. WoW is a great PvE game that stuck a horrible PvP game at the end. I think BGs and Arena are both poorly implemented and PvP gear is just a grind that involved getting outgeared until you play enough to start equipping PvP gear. Also, PvP is the reason a lot of m Priest's abilities were nerfed, and I find that totally ridiculous seeing as I hardly ever PvP.

URMAKER · May 2007

nah lotro is most boring ever so....WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!

Fugnudz · May 2007

Originally posted by URMAKER

nah lotro is most boring ever so....WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!

I have to agree with that.

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