I should have known Rattrap created this thread when I gazed upon its eerie title. The name itself "Mmorpg.com community - what happened to you ?" is typical for what you would expect of a single mother who's child turned from A+ pupil to being a crack addict with a life of crime. Its attempt to make us reminisce the "good ole days" of mmorpg.com when everyone was right and people who made negative replys were pre-teens with their finger glued to the shift key. The days when prizes were won by all, when moderators only banned people who disagreed with you and when the persons with the highest post counts were considered respected pillars of the community... Oh what days were they....
Unfortunately, they never happened. Never.
MMORPG.com was never the home of intelectual enlightenment. It was not considered the new boundry for the modern MMO debate. It was is and has always been the same Troll, fanboi infested shit hole and it will always be thus.
You are being kinda harsh...
Yes i agree this was never paradise but atleast fifty percent of this site sommunity isnt a mindless fanboy/hater/troller
Its not THAT bad
P.S Jaskip nice comment
Like if that as anything to do with anything at all.
The official forums to a game is where all the fanbois to a game hang out. If you like the game you can hang out there. I like this site, because its not totally biased like the official sites are. i get to hear the pros and the cons about the game.
if you only want to hear good things said about your game, go to their official forums.
Again multiple forums would help this. I'm playing WoW right now with my girlfriend, but can't post on the WoW forums here because I don't want to be flamed to hell.
the CoH/CoV are the only non-flame forums here it seems.
The official forums to a game is where all the fanbois to a game hang out. If you like the game you can hang out there. I like this site, because its not totally biased like the official sites are. i get to hear the pros and the cons about the game. if you only want to hear good things said about your game, go to their official forums.
All Im saying is its pretty screwed up when someone who actually likes a game is called a fanboy shunned and is blamed for the decay of this site....Read what you said up top carefully, your basically saying if I like a game hang out at its official forum, are you telling me people who like games should NOT come here????
I should have known Rattrap created this thread when I gazed upon its eerie title. The name itself "Mmorpg.com community - what happened to you ?" is typical for what you would expect of a single mother who's child turned from A+ pupil to being a crack addict with a life of crime. Its attempt to make us reminisce the "good ole days" of mmorpg.com when everyone was right and people who made negative replys were pre-teens with their finger glued to the shift key. The days when prizes were won by all, when moderators only banned people who disagreed with you and when the persons with the highest post counts were considered respected pillars of the community... Oh what days were they....
Unfortunately, they never happened. Never.
MMORPG.com was never the home of intelectual enlightenment. It was not considered the new boundry for the modern MMO debate. It was is and has always been the same Troll, fanboi infested shit hole and it will always be thus.
Your wrong. Afew years ago people here were much more optimistic. These days most people here are jaded and bitter.
I should have known Rattrap created this thread when I gazed upon its eerie title. The name itself "Mmorpg.com community - what happened to you ?" is typical for what you would expect of a single mother who's child turned from A+ pupil to being a crack addict with a life of crime. Its attempt to make us reminisce the "good ole days" of mmorpg.com when everyone was right and people who made negative replys were pre-teens with their finger glued to the shift key. The days when prizes were won by all, when moderators only banned people who disagreed with you and when the persons with the highest post counts were considered respected pillars of the community... Oh what days were they....
Unfortunately, they never happened. Never.
MMORPG.com was never the home of intelectual enlightenment. It was not considered the new boundry for the modern MMO debate. It was is and has always been the same Troll, fanboi infested shit hole and it will always be thus.
Your wrong. Afew years ago people here were much more optimistic. These days most people here are jaded and bitter.
Yes because the MMORPG world looked more promising then. But the last few years nothing original has come out. All the games today are the same. Nothing new or innovative. that is why people are upset.
I think it's part of the elitism that's been on the rise in society in general. We've gone from "personal tastes are personal" to "different opinions is a personal insult". I haven't been here too long, but it does seem like things are pretty vicious. There is some honesty but it always seems like a good thread always get ruined by someone deciding to be a jerk.
Vent all you want, just make it your own thread and be prepared to defend your position and explain why your opinion is so important. Game-specific boards are for two groups of people, fans of the game and those looking to play the game.
I think it's part of the elitism that's been on the rise in society in general. We've gone from "personal tastes are personal" to "different opinions is a personal insult". I haven't been here too long, but it does seem like things are pretty vicious. There is some honesty but it always seems like a good thread always get ruined by someone deciding to be a jerk.
Vent all you want, just make it your own thread and be prepared to defend your position and explain why your opinion is so important. Game-specific boards are for two groups of people, fans of the game and those looking to play the game.
Its always been this way. These forums have never changed. Before Vanguard we have had disapointments such as Star Wars Galaxies, before that we had disapointments like Matrix Online, Ryzom, and arguably EQ2, heck to many here WoW is a disapointment. What we have seen each and every time is a bunch of fanbois screaming "THIS GAME IS GREAT" and in response a bunch of haters saying "NO IT SUCKS" and in the midst of it all you have a few trolls yelling "LAWL". NOTHING has changed.
Originally posted by godpuppet Its always been this way. These forums have never changed. Before Vanguard we have had disapointments such as Star Wars Galaxies, before that we had disapointments like Matrix Online, Ryzom, and arguably EQ2, heck to many here WoW is a disapointment. What we have seen each and every time is a bunch of fanbois screaming "THIS GAME IS GREAT" and in response a bunch of haters saying "NO IT SUCKS" and in the midst of it all you have a few trolls yelling "LAWL". NOTHING has changed.
The official forums to a game is where all the fanbois to a game hang out. If you like the game you can hang out there. I like this site, because its not totally biased like the official sites are. i get to hear the pros and the cons about the game. if you only want to hear good things said about your game, go to their official forums.
All Im saying is its pretty screwed up when someone who actually likes a game is called a fanboy shunned and is blamed for the decay of this site....Read what you said up top carefully, your basically saying if I like a game hang out at its official forum, are you telling me people who like games should NOT come here????
No, he was saying that if people don't want negative, constructive opinions thrown at their game and want things to be all rosey and cheery 24/7 then they should go to an official forum or affiliated website.
As for non-constructive opinions both postive and negative, they are everywhere no matter where you go.
As for the topic at hand - I believe the OP has already been adressed by Godpuppet quite well.
Currently Playing: Everything but MMORPGs Cancelled: L2, FFXI, VSoH, LotRO, WAR, WoW Looking Forward To: SW:TOR
OP....check the profiles of the responders telling you 'nothing has changed'...teen gurus of today's 'next generatin of leaders'.
OP, you need to realize their perspective is far removed from yours. This is a generation where the adage "actions speak louder than words" has been rephrased for their convinience where "Words" are more important than actions!
This is one of the sadest things about the not ready to vote age group of today's society. You are better off to just up and pop someone than call them an SOB because they will find a way to sue you or accuse you of being wrong to cover their own shallow images.
This is the ME generation and they somehow have gotten the idea that anything and everything is fair game. And think it's funny...
The best part is, for those of us that have actually 'been ther done that', KNOW they have a RUDE, and deserved. awakening if they ever move into the the real world of personal responsibility.
OP, let it go. You cannot change it, only they can.
LMAO...EVERYONE has a day of reckoning...sooner or later.
The community here is horrendous. I've hated the forums for about 2 years now. Its nothing, but rapid fanbois. I can only assume there are many, many kids on here now. At least the news has been getting better.
I hate to post something this negative about the community, but it really is a reason why I don't come here much, anymore. It's just as bad as VN boards now. Well, not that bad, but its close.
The community here is horrendous. I've hated the forums for about 2 years now. Its nothing, but rapid fanbois. I can only assume there are many, many kids on here now. At least the news has been getting better.
I hate to post something this negative about the community, but it really is a reason why I don't come here much, anymore. It's just as bad as VN boards now. Well, not that bad, but its close.
Rapid fanbois? Like really fast posting ones?
And NOTHING compares to VN boards.. even I stay away from there.
Actually as much as a flame starting stament this is. Hes got a very good point and one thats valid. Ever since WoW (which is a well made game, just not after 60) opened its doors for tons of b-net 'kiddies' and other people new to mmos i have noticed a steady increase in irrationalism. Which was all over the WoW forums, obviously. Hmmm... actually a good point.
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
it became like this about when wow came out. all the newbies that have no clue what they are talking about.
Nope. It became like this when veteran mmorpg players got angry and frustrated. That of course happened because they suddenly became minority in area where they had been majority in long long time.
For them, any new mmorpg that is released will never ever meet the golden days of UO, EQ or pre-cu SWG. Graphics may be good, everything else is crap. It may be bug free, but that doesn't matter since it doesn't cater to the 1% of hardcore pvp people. Excellent questing system is crap, because 1% of mmorpg.com readers prefer sandbox like game.
If someone dares to enjoy a new game and posts here a positive review, he/she will be shot down instantly. He/she will be named fanboy and god forbid anything he/she ever says is shunned because of this.
The 'hate'-posters wiil never ever agree with anyone on anything. They will always seek the faults in game, no matter how small, and state that everybody who plays the game that they do not like is mentally retarded.
That is the true reason for all the hate in this community.
IMHO people like this: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/128098 (a horrible example in the Vanguard forum) have killed the community here. It's gone from a group of people who loved and had a passion for a genre of gaming that is unique and growing faster then anyone could have imagined. We used to support each other, we used to question each other differences not make fun of each other because of them. We seeked out those that knew more than we do and we appreciated other members thoughts on different subjects, now the people here only attack when someone doesn't agree with them. The moderators stopped moderating based on individual instances but rather put into place broad sweeping rules that don't allow for circumstance and on top of that, they favored members that they deemed better than others. In general, that's what happened Ratty. This isn't a community anymore, hasn't been for a long time.
Yes , Shae ... i am starting to notice this. Ans also that most of good old posters (like you) are not posting anymore.
"Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas
I should have known Rattrap created this thread when I gazed upon its eerie title. The name itself "Mmorpg.com community - what happened to you ?" is typical for what you would expect of a single mother who's child turned from A+ pupil to being a crack addict with a life of crime. Its attempt to make us reminisce the "good ole days" of mmorpg.com when everyone was right and people who made negative replys were pre-teens with their finger glued to the shift key. The days when prizes were won by all, when moderators only banned people who disagreed with you and when the persons with the highest post counts were considered respected pillars of the community... Oh what days were they....
Unfortunately, they never happened. Never.
MMORPG.com was never the home of intelectual enlightenment. It was not considered the new boundry for the modern MMO debate. It was is and has always been the same Troll, fanboi infested shit hole and it will always be thus.
No Godpupet , it was not like that before you came here.Actually if there should be some finger pointing it is towards you.
Some people might call me LOTRO lover , Vanguard hater - and it is true ...i stand by my oppinions and am voicing them loudly.
This is what forums are for. You can read my posts. I did bash Vanguard much in the time it was released , and it was because i belived people were lied to , and will be tricked into buying the game and making expensive PC upgrades. As for LOTRO you can read my posts, stating that it is not the greatest game, but it is a good game to play right now, a good reasonable investment.
But you GODPUPPET , you came to this forums to troll. You never made a positive post about any game.
And if opportunity arrises you will personally attack posters, regardles of what they are saying.
You my friend are the TROLL that came here because this forums became popular.
You GODPUPPET , you GHOUL31 , i am pointing my finger at you , and i am sure everyone agrees - among few others you are the ones that bring this community down.
And who does not belive it , can easily check your posts.
I just wish you find some other forums to TROLL on. Because you obviously do not care about MMORPG games
"Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas
the mmorpg world have increased a lot in numbers the last few years ( specially with WoW). the "bad posters", wich are not necerly jackasses but often just people that dont bother to watch out how thye voice they opinions, always existed. They were just not as many as they are now.
Its difficult for people not to take it personnaly when someone disagree with you and its not eazy to stay neutral when someone is a bit harsh towards a game you enjoy.
this comunauty need more moderators. Evryone should be able to gloryfie or criticize a game but they also should watch carrefully how they do it.
PS : no need to bash my grammar, as some already wished it's not my natural language.
Some people might call me LOTRO lover , Vanguard hater - and it is true ...i stand by my oppinions and am voicing them loudly.
This is what forums are for. You can read my posts. I did bash Vanguard much in the time it was released , and it was because i belived people were lied to , and will be tricked into buying the game and making expensive PC upgrades. As for LOTRO you can read my posts, stating that it is not the greatest game, but it is a good game to play right now, a good reasonable investment.
There is a thin line between voicing your opinion and forcing it down people's throats. The latter seems to be how people post here (Or anywhere else for that matter).
i think its like the average mmo community. there are some haters that attract attention because they have something to complain about so they write alot. and there are lots of people enjoing games and forums and laughing about fanbois and flamers. bad guys belong to it, they even exists in lotr which has become a quite good game for hardcore gamerz after all.
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Yes i agree this was never paradise but atleast fifty percent of this site sommunity isnt a mindless fanboy/hater/troller
Its not THAT bad
P.S Jaskip nice comment
Like if that as anything to do with anything at all.
The official forums to a game is where all the fanbois to a game hang out. If you like the game you can hang out there. I like this site, because its not totally biased like the official sites are. i get to hear the pros and the cons about the game.
if you only want to hear good things said about your game, go to their official forums.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
the CoH/CoV are the only non-flame forums here it seems.
ehehehe, atleast we can log in these boards. The WoW boards are awful, just awful.. so thats a pretty bold statement you made.
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Yes because the MMORPG world looked more promising then. But the last few years nothing original has come out. All the games today are the same. Nothing new or innovative. that is why people are upset.
Vent all you want, just make it your own thread and be prepared to defend your position and explain why your opinion is so important. Game-specific boards are for two groups of people, fans of the game and those looking to play the game.
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These are the facts, folks.
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No, he was saying that if people don't want negative, constructive opinions thrown at their game and want things to be all rosey and cheery 24/7 then they should go to an official forum or affiliated website.
As for non-constructive opinions both postive and negative, they are everywhere no matter where you go.
As for the topic at hand - I believe the OP has already been adressed by Godpuppet quite well.
Currently Playing: Everything but MMORPGs
Cancelled: L2, FFXI, VSoH, LotRO, WAR, WoW
Looking Forward To: SW:TOR
OP....check the profiles of the responders telling you 'nothing has changed'...teen gurus of today's 'next generatin of leaders'.
OP, you need to realize their perspective is far removed from yours. This is a generation where the adage "actions speak louder than words" has been rephrased for their convinience where "Words" are more important than actions!
This is one of the sadest things about the not ready to vote age group of today's society. You are better off to just up and pop someone than call them an SOB because they will find a way to sue you or accuse you of being wrong to cover their own shallow images.
This is the ME generation and they somehow have gotten the idea that anything and everything is fair game. And think it's funny...
The best part is, for those of us that have actually 'been ther done that', KNOW they have a RUDE, and deserved. awakening if they ever move into the the real world of personal responsibility.
OP, let it go. You cannot change it, only they can.
LMAO...EVERYONE has a day of reckoning...sooner or later.
I hate to post something this negative about the community, but it really is a reason why I don't come here much, anymore. It's just as bad as VN boards now. Well, not that bad, but its close.
And NOTHING compares to VN boards.. even I stay away from there.
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"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
For them, any new mmorpg that is released will never ever meet the golden days of UO, EQ or pre-cu SWG. Graphics may be good, everything else is crap. It may be bug free, but that doesn't matter since it doesn't cater to the 1% of hardcore pvp people. Excellent questing system is crap, because 1% of mmorpg.com readers prefer sandbox like game.
If someone dares to enjoy a new game and posts here a positive review, he/she will be shot down instantly. He/she will be named fanboy and god forbid anything he/she ever says is shunned because of this.
The 'hate'-posters wiil never ever agree with anyone on anything. They will always seek the faults in game, no matter how small, and state that everybody who plays the game that they do not like is mentally retarded.
That is the true reason for all the hate in this community.
"Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas
Some people might call me LOTRO lover , Vanguard hater - and it is true ...i stand by my oppinions and am voicing them loudly.
This is what forums are for. You can read my posts. I did bash Vanguard much in the time it was released , and it was because i belived people were lied to , and will be tricked into buying the game and making expensive PC upgrades. As for LOTRO you can read my posts, stating that it is not the greatest game, but it is a good game to play right now, a good reasonable investment.
But you GODPUPPET , you came to this forums to troll. You never made a positive post about any game.
And if opportunity arrises you will personally attack posters, regardles of what they are saying.
You my friend are the TROLL that came here because this forums became popular.
You GODPUPPET , you GHOUL31 , i am pointing my finger at you , and i am sure everyone agrees - among few others you are the ones that bring this community down.
And who does not belive it , can easily check your posts.
I just wish you find some other forums to TROLL on. Because you obviously do not care about MMORPG games
"Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas
Its difficult for people not to take it personnaly when someone disagree with you and its not eazy to stay neutral when someone is a bit harsh towards a game you enjoy.
this comunauty need more moderators. Evryone should be able to gloryfie or criticize a game but they also should watch carrefully how they do it.
PS : no need to bash my grammar, as some already wished it's not my natural language.
i think its like the average mmo community. there are some haters that attract attention because they have something to complain about so they write alot. and there are lots of people enjoing games and forums and laughing about fanbois and flamers. bad guys belong to it, they even exists in lotr which has become a quite good game for hardcore gamerz after all.