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Good Sci-Fi MMO?
OBK1
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There are a lot of fantasy MMOs but are there any good sci-fi ones?
I have played EVE, but I like an avatar and actual "on planet" gameplay. I think both Ryzom and even more AO are decent games, but maybe a little aging? Also tried SWG after NGE (never tried before), but is that world deserted now?
Anyway are those the big ones or is there any nice Sci-fi MMO I have missed? Anyone know of the state of AO these days?
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try looking at neocron.
Tried Neocron 1 at launch several years ago and found it decent. I'm downloading the free trial now, has it changed much?
If you go to the 'Game List' and click the 'Genre' at the top, it will sort the games by Genre. Looking at the list of Sci-Fi, I've played a lot of them and can't say that I thought many were good. To bad really, I enjoy Sci-Fi
The lack of good sci-fi MMOs is a sad thing. Maybe Fallen Earth will be good, but I won't get my hopes up until I actually get to try the game.
SWG isn't deserted, although many people seem to wish it was
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Meh ST won't have enough combat if they do it right. If they don't do it right and it isn't true to the ST IP it's going to suck hard like SWG did when they let everyone be Jedi.
You should checkout a game called divergence. Several friends and I got all jazzed up to buy the shit out of that one but found out the devs lost their funding. I don't think it's gone anywhere since I lost touch with those guys but then if they manage it it looks like it'll be the best thing out there period.
Also there are a lot of indie MMORPGs out there to checkout like force of arms and dark horizons. The only problem with geting your hopes up about indie games is they're usually done on crappy or just cheap engines that don't really feel like you're playing a good game. I'm not saying multiverse is crap it just has a long way to go. Divergence is getting it's ass kicked financially because they're trying to get a really good engine and you know how much those cost.
Either way it looks like we're all up a creek until one or more of these companies makes a new scifi mmo to play. Me there's no way I'm going back to SWG but like you I don't see anything else on the horizon.
Meh ST won't have enough combat if they do it right. If they don't do it right and it isn't true to the ST IP it's going to suck hard like SWG did when they let everyone be Jedi.
You should checkout a game called divergence. Several friends and I got all jazzed up to buy the shit out of that one but found out the devs lost their funding. I don't think it's gone anywhere since I lost touch with those guys but then if they manage it it looks like it'll be the best thing out there period.
Also there are a lot of indie MMORPGs out there to checkout like force of arms and dark horizons. The only problem with geting your hopes up about indie games is they're usually done on crappy or just cheap engines that don't really feel like you're playing a good game. I'm not saying multiverse is crap it just has a long way to go. Divergence is getting it's ass kicked financially because they're trying to get a really good engine and you know how much those cost.
Either way it looks like we're all up a creek until one or more of these companies makes a new scifi mmo to play. Me there's no way I'm going back to SWG but like you I don't see anything else on the horizon.
I have zero interest in playing anything out right now and that really sucks... In fact it's been that way for months. If I could brainwash myself into believing SWG hasn't become a bastardized and gutted shadow of it's former self I'd still be playing it. That is if it were still a skill-based game.
This is why I'm really pissed off that DO (Divergence Online) might never even get developed fully. Out of all of the games on the left of this screen do you know how many are really scifi? Out of those how many are recent with decent graphics? Out of those how many aren't korean made?
That narrows it down to Fallen Earth, Star Trek Online and Stargate Worlds.
Fallen Earth: 4 years in development and still nowhere near beta? The damn thing will be out of date before it ever launches if it ever does.
Star Trek Online: What happens when you try to make an mmorpg based on someone elses intelletual property? You become the IP (Intellectual Property) owners biatch, and your game sucks. With ST Online I can iamge this is going to be because the community will keep spamming to make the game mroe combat centric and hardcore, but in sticking with Star Trek, there's no way this can happen. If it does it's screwed. If it doesn't people will move on. Star Trek is supposed to be about exploration and imagination not about combat.
Stargate Worlds: Once again someone elses IP. Plus they're using Unreal 3 Engine for an mmorpg. I'm all for people pushing the boundaries of technology but Unreal 3 sure as hell wasn't designed for that much load. Remember what happened when Twilight War tried to use Source for their MMO? They got 1/3 of the way through and realized that was retarded. FPS engines are made to do FPS really well, that's it. Plus because of this they probably won't be in Beta for another almost 2 years. AND if that weren't enough, it's an MMO, not an mmorpg which means because Unreal 3 can't handle many simultaneous connections it's probably going to be sharded off like Guildwards hence it isn't a MASSIVE multiplayer onlien roleplaying game.
GAH! Such negativity!
And then you have games like Global Agenda where the developers just flat out lie to get attention for their game. When I first heard this new company was making a spy-fi MMORPG i nearly had a stroke, but after watching the video and reading on their website the actual features of the game...
Engage in solo, co-op, and team objective-based missions against non-player and other player-created agencies.
Right... It's another @#$&; game like Dreamlords that try and pass themselves off as MMORPGs to garner a little buzz when the reality is they are not. Coop? Sweet Vegas has that! Give me a break.
I like SWG because despite the changes it's had, it's still one of the more unique and diverse MMO's out there and they're actually adding in more diversity & complexity starting with the Beast Master expertise (which goes far beyond just the skill trees).
The main things I like is that you're not confined to a set path, you can run anywhere you like with no restrictions. If you do like directed content though, that is also available. Combat is not the only playstyle available, you could become a crafter and set up your own business...and it really does have alot of simmilarities to running a RL business. The economy is completely player run, there are no NPCs that you go buy stuff from.
Combat wise, being a Sci-Fi themed MMO ranged combat is the standard for most professions although there are Melee specialities available through expertise and an entire profession centered around it (Jedi). You also have the choice of two combat systems through pressing a key. You have your usual MMO style where everything's auto or you can switch to twitch based combat where you manually aim and shoot at your targets. Each has it's ups and downs.
From what I can see, the game has a future and shows no signs of dissapearing anytime soon. It's been through the lowest point an MMO can drop to and survived - if that can't kill it not alot can :P
Thank you everyone, seems like it is almost as depressing as I thought it might be...
I will try Neocron again, and if that fails to grab me I might try SWG again as well. No one has mentioned Matrix online, is it really that bad?
I play EVE Online and enjoy it a lot, but it's a slow-burning, ship-based game, and I'd really like to have a character-scale sci-fi MMO to fill the gaps in my playing time. Maybe something like an Anarchy Online 2. Anarchy Online's okay, I guess, but the graphics make the original Tomb Raider look like The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, and the customer service seems nonexistent. The user interface issues I had when I tried it put me off the game, because I could not contact a GM or anyone else to get the problems solved. (You can't use their forums unless you're a paying subscriber.)
Another thing I noticed was that all the highly anticipated sci-fi MMOs in development (and many that are already running) are pretty much first-person shooters. That includes Huxley, Tabula Rasa, that one post-apocalyptic game, and more. And there's no way in HELL I'm playing RF Online -- I don't need another 1337 k1dz grindfest with badly-translated quest text, thanks. I don't want to play a bloody first-person shooter, either. I want invisible dice rolls and automated button-pushing like AO has.
I might try out that Neocron 2 game. It seems to be the only sci-fi title that: 1.) Doesn't suck (possibly, don't know yet); 2.) Isn't ship-based or FPS-based; 3.) Isn't a huge grindfest; and 4.) doesn't have graphics that make my eyes bleed. Seriously, the stop-motion photography in that ancient 1950s King Kong movie looked better than the jerky bullcrap the character models pull off in AO.
Not to mention that, in AO, you have four annoying "breeds" to choose from: Solitus (regular, boring humans); Opifex (albino humans that make Dracula look like a beach bum); Nanomage (or something like that... these guys look like the Crypt Keeper); and Atrox, which are basically asexual sasquatches.
Sorry for the AO bashing, but there's nothing else like it out there, so I'm sort of forced to focus on it.
I don't know why people love the fantasy genre so much more than sci-fi, but it really pisses me off. I'm getting tired of seeing Legolas clones named "Gokudrizzt" and such and the like in every damned game I play.
Currently Playing: EVE Online
Retired From: UO, FFXI, AO, SWG, Ryzom, GW, WoW, WAR
I agree completely, I would like something like AO2 as well...
Neocron actually tries to be FPSish, which I don't quite like. It has a great atmosphere though, but I got reminded of why I quit the first time. Motion sickness, I cant handle that kind of camera movement which is one of the reasons I don't play fps games (numerous other reasons too).
So now I have to make up my mind, I do play Lotro, but I need a sci-fi fix as well. It will probably be between AO and SWG, I can't seem to get into Ryzom even if it seems like a well-crafted game.
My ultimate mmorpg would have theese specs:
Setting: AO -shadowlands /late post apocalyptic earth
Game mechanics: AO/SWG complexity + Wow/CoH combat
Graphics: Whatever current best gfx engine is, as long as the artwork is good
Pvp: Daoc style, both endgame and low lvl bgs
Polish: Wow/Lotro, beta releases just dosent do it for me
Might wanna give Tabula Rasa a peek.
There gonna be moving into their, thier first wave of closed beta testing soon, so it's a good time to sign-up if you want in.
Some people make things happen.
Some people watch things happen.
Some people wonder what happened.
Plus there is an mmorpg.com free trial available at the moment.
It is not really science fiction, but it is set in a world that is relatively futuristic. The Combat animations are really good, which I have also noticed most Sci Fi games lack.
I have played Anarchy Online alot as well to satisfy my Sci Fi mmorpg craving, but there is no doubting it, that game is very outdated.
I am kind of afraid to play Starwars Galaxies again, its a pay to play at the same price as World of Warcraft and Everquest 2, but it looks to me to be on the same quality level as Anarchy = .
To be honest, I think a World of Starcraft would save all of us from this boredom. Nobody can doubt that Blizzard makes a good mmorpg.
I can just imagine the amazing pvp system they could develope between the protoss, zerg, and terran. And actually being able to roll a Zerg would be tons of fun. Although if they did this, Blizzard would pretty much monopolize the mmorpg market.
Meh ST won't have enough combat if they do it right. If they don't do it right and it isn't true to the ST IP it's going to suck hard like SWG did when they let everyone be Jedi.
You should checkout a game called divergence. Several friends and I got all jazzed up to buy the shit out of that one but found out the devs lost their funding. I don't think it's gone anywhere since I lost touch with those guys but then if they manage it it looks like it'll be the best thing out there period.
Also there are a lot of indie MMORPGs out there to checkout like force of arms and dark horizons. The only problem with geting your hopes up about indie games is they're usually done on crappy or just cheap engines that don't really feel like you're playing a good game. I'm not saying multiverse is crap it just has a long way to go. Divergence is getting it's ass kicked financially because they're trying to get a really good engine and you know how much those cost.
Either way it looks like we're all up a creek until one or more of these companies makes a new scifi mmo to play. Me there's no way I'm going back to SWG but like you I don't see anything else on the horizon.
I didn't hear about Divergence's funding issues. But I kind of saw that coming for a game that promised millions of planets... I still hope Force of Arms will make it. That just looks beyond sweet.
Good to see Dark Horizons getting some mention. I know a lot of the devs, and their really hard working, awsome guys who care about their games and their players. Have you tried Dark Horizons: Lore? It was their first game. A near-future mech FPS that sets off the timeline for the DH universe. With the demo you can play online, and there's no time limit. I would highly recommend it. The site is www.darkhorizons-lore.com
"Kaneda! What...do you see?"
I went and tried the SWG 14 day trial.
I cant beleive im going to say this either.....im actually having fun and i like it.
Yes i played beta.I played after release.I even played after the revamps.I was never a crafter nor was i a merchant.
i owned a house and some vehicle's.
Ive never been to attached to any mmo to date.
I started a new character.Got through the tutorial and i started in tatooine.I went smuggler space pilot.
I KNOW a lot of players will say its not the same as before but what mmo isnt the same as when it launched?
I chose bloodfin server and it is CROWDED.I see a more jedi than i care for but i could care less im not a jedi.everything is level based now but that's ok too.
Bottom line is this:Im having fun.
Go ahead and tell me it sux and you wont go back.But ive got some news for you,this game is far from dead.If it continue's to have the server pop im seeing then it will be going for quite a bit longer.
Flame on but it wont change the fact that im having fun with it.If im having a good time then why is it so bad that everyone else playing it is having fun too?
Sure it sux the way SOE changed it completly for crafters in particular but it really is no worse than any current mmo on the market that caters to the casual player.If you like WoW then you will like this too.
What is your physical limit?
The lack of good sci-fi MMOs is a sad thing. Maybe Fallen Earth will be good, but I won't get my hopes up until I actually get to try the game.
Fallen Earth is not Sci - Fi but Post Apocalyptic.
It won't have cyborgs, spaceships or pew pew laser guns, it will be alot like fallout or madmax where people have to scavenge for weapons and armour.
I consider post-apocalyptic a sub-genre of Sci-fi. A very interesting one at that, Fallout 1 and 2 were great games and hopefully Fallen Earth will capture the atmosphere from those games.Thank you all for the mention, hopefully you'll all be hearing a little more from us in the next few weeks with regards to Force of Arms and Dark Horizons, maybe even a "proper" introduction to Multiverse. We are looking to create a whole new diverse universe to play in with its own lore, building on the past but implementing new innovative ideas in the industry.
Stop by if you get the chance, we've added a lot of new media and Lorescapes and more is on the way.
http://www.forceofarms.com/index.php