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Excited? Why shouldn't I be?
blackmaiden
Member Posts: 55
I fancied a little nostalgia the other evening, so I reinstalled SWG, waited for the patches to install, created a character and dived right in there. After a 2 year absence I wasn't shocked at the state of the game as I has heard and read plenty about how it had moved on. I was however shocked at how the game was grabbing me. I was actually enjoying playing the so called new gaming experience. I had deleted my original toon out of frustration post CU so starting again meant I had to go through the grind all over again. I went to visit my old player city, and there they all were...... Abandoned houses all belonging to my old buddies. It was kind of sad and left a lump in my thoat. What fun we used to have, I thought to myself. What a waste.
However I do not think this need be the case. If SWG can be treated by the old and bold as a New Gaming Experience, and what the game once was can be forgotten, then this game has a lot to offer and can go a long way. I find myself paying interest into what the developers have in mind for the future of SWG. I never thought I would bring myself to say it, but I am actually excited!! I honestly believe that SWG has found its second breath. All that is going against it at the moment is numbers on servers, and a lot of that I believe is down to stubborness, principals and ingnorance. If the MMORPG community can change its attitude with respect to this then it will once again be able to satisfy its need for a sci-fi MMO.
WoW will soon be a victim of its own success, Vanguard just simply is not ready, LotR is more elves and goblins, everquest 1 and 2 is even more Elves and Goblins....SWG can offer you the Sci-fI fix you all so long for once again. Go on give it a try....Surprise yourself.....
.......Don't be afraid.......Fear leads to the Darkside!
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The problem is A LOT of people are soured on it. I played the game Pre-CU and NGE and, even thought i don't like sci-fi, i loved the feel of the game. I could be what i wanted. I didn't have to pick a class and be another class among hundreds or thousands of others. I could be different. I wasn't forced into something. A lot of people liked that and when the changes came were pissed when the game that they loved changed. Everything they knew was gone. And why? So SOE could attempt to duplicate the success of WoW, which is going poorly for them I might add. UO tried making their game more item based, messed with a lot of things and it went downhill from what it used to be. The problem is they tried to change a game for, what they thought , was the better and ended up shooting themselves in the foot. You can't change a game around years after it's been out and expect people not to be angry. Very rarely does a change like thew one SOE did work. They pretty much sealed the fate of their game. Shame to as it was really the last sandbox game left.
Glad your enjoying the game.
Just a thought, Imagine if they made the new player tutorial like they have now PRE-CU. If that kind of effort would have been put into PRE-CU i think we would be talking about something different. Don't you agree?
SOE took what was previously a complex and engaging game with multiple levels of social interaction and community building and turned it into little more than a mindless WoW clone. With the NGE, SOE eliminated or made worthless over half the existing content. They waited until the latest expansion pack was released and then announced to the community that SWG as the players knew it was no more, a decidedly deceptive practice. The NGE itself was probably coded in under two weeks given it's quality. And now SOE has the audacity to start adding back content that was removed and then claiming that the regained material is actually new.
SOE doesn't give a damn about their current subscribers. The only thing that matters to SOE is potential subscribers. If you are currently subscribed to an SOE game, you are irrelevant to them. SOE will not hesitate to completely revamp an entire game, even if it screws the existing playerbase, if they think they can steal subscribers from WoW.
No matter how good the NGE's potential, there are two facts that remain. It is not the game I originally bought and it is not the game that was originally advertised to me. And that is why, for as long as I draw breath, I will never give the Sony Corporation or SOE another dime.
And I'd like to point out that stuff like Creature Handler and Bio Engineer were removed because they were not "Star Warsy" and "Iconic".
Yet now they seem to be again.
Strange
Yes - SWG is a decent game now. So what? Most people won't trust SOE ever again - especially not those who got burned by SWG/VG. Like I said many times before TRUST is a huge part of the equation when it comes to MMOs as everything you work for is stored, maintained and can be altered at any time by the developers if they feel like it.
SWG is dying .... KOTOR online will finnish it off.
Ironicly enough, I also went and checked the old player cities i used to frequent and saw similar results. However, I also ran through a bunch of 'newer' cities that had very few "abandoned" houses.
Ultimately, I went ahead and resubscribed for a month. As it's been stated in various other posts, it seems like there is an overabundance of elf-and-orc games around and I've gotten bored with them.
This post isn't meant to convince other vets or those who just hate SOE, that SWG is as good as it was or that they should even bother coming back. It is just a brief summary of my experience coming back after not playing this game for a couple years. My experience was based on playing a "Trader - Structures" up to level 64 so far. Therefore, there is plenty of combat class experience that I haven't really taken part in and that might be a whole different ball game in terms of fun and playability.
Still, interesting to see both sides being fairly vocal in their support and dissent regarding this game. If anything else, it points out the game is not dead yet (in a monty python, cheerful sorta way). Sure, it may be dying, but I think it's got a little mileage and fun left in it (for me at least).
-mklinic
"Do something right, no one remembers.
Do something wrong, no one forgets"
-from No One Remembers by In Strict Confidence
need a lil help went out and got SWG again downloaded it went to log in and it said i need directx 9 c went to down load it it says i did but it doesnt show i did on my pc and swg says the same thing every time i log in what can i do
I understand your sentiments. I will not speak for SOE in general but I will disagree that the current Dev team in place "does give a damn". Anyone who does not agree I simply ask you to follow the SWG Dev Tracker, communication with the community is outstanding.
no not a webcam why ? i do use a logitech mouse so i do have logiteck software on my pc
Logitech mouse drivers shouldn't be an issue since I use a Logitech mouse and keyboard and have no problem. There is an issue with the Webcam software they use though that seems to take over DirectX and makes it think it's not there. Just to make sure, do this:
a) Click on Start->run and type "services.msc".
b) Find the service "Logitech Process Monitor", right click on it, click on properties then on general tab and change the "Startup Type" to Disabled before playing the game.
I understand your sentiments. I will not speak for SOE in general but I will disagree that the current Dev team in place "does give a damn". Anyone who does not agree I simply ask you to follow the SWG Dev Tracker, communication with the community is outstanding.
If SOE gave a damn, the NGE would have never happened. If SOE gave a damn, they would have reverted back to the orginal game. No amount of kissing up is going to fix that.
Furthermore, devs are low-level employees. If SOE wanted to show they truely cared, they'd have regular communication from the management.
I have heard alot of things floating around about SWG, that maybe you guys can clear up? I use to play the game pre-jump to lightspeed, once I saw space was just a ship floating in a box I lost intrest, I did try the CU, and NGE, none of which got me excited again. But, heres a question..
1. Did they realy fire all the old Devs from the NGE?
2. Are they really revamping the game back to pre-CU/NGE?
3. Do they really have any major plans other than milking cash at this point?
thanks all.
Chapter 6 is just the beginning of a new birth for SWG. I want SWG over WoW or WoW clones any day. And I am no fan boy of $OE- Yet the game is getting back to its roots: But let time show it!
Returning game play since JT has been relocated!
####I will play SWG over the fantasy clones any day####
Flipside:
I do miss the skill system-
The expertise system does work
Target system is weird-
But the combat is getting better with publish 6.
I am a veteta tester of SWG and I want Fort Tusken to be a challenge once and for all time! Long live the return of the moisture farmer! I hope!!!
The point, the CURRENT dev team is actively communicating and implementing ideas from the community (hence, "give a damn"). What they did in the past has zero effect on me personally, I only care about the now. Like I also stated, I understand your sentiment toward SOE but it has little consequences on me personally. What kind of communication were you looking for exactly? The current dev team & producers are actively communicating and implementing ideas from the community. Frankly, these are the only people I want to communicate with because they are the ones designing the game.
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
Yeah I am not much of a fan of those controls but you can make it old school style.
First thing is under keymap switch it to SWG modern.
Now for the rest I am not sure where they are found but make sure you can fire specials from the toolbar, uncheck offset mouse target (or something like that, it is at the very bottom of the list, I just forget what page that is on.) Also press Y to switch your targetting to a circle and then you double click to attack and stays targetted.
Not sure what else I can do and unless you have the Trials of Obi Wan, I think most of the level 80+ are on Mustafar and most level 60+ are on Kasshyk.
I only have a level 45 at the moment and still in the legacy quests so not sure what exactly everyone is doing but I have been having a blast.
This may help you: (reposted)
*As Obraik was saying, you have two ways to fight now - it's a simple choice;
a) you can use the kind of FPS hybrid and use the number pad to bust out specials, or
b) you can use the traditional MMO style to fight where you simple click on a target and then spam your hot bar as in any other MMO. You switch between this by using the "Y" key. It's a personal choice.
*Under Options un-check "Off Set Camera" to get rid of that crappy over-the-shoulder camera view.
*Under Options select Keymaps and under that use the drop down menu and select "Star Wars Galaxies Modern" to be able to use the mouse to drive your movement.
*You use the "Alt" key to get a free mouse look (as always).
*Use the right "Del" key (or the "." key) to turn off "Chase Camera."
*There are even Mod sites to give you much of the Pre-CU interface back, if you like. Personally I like the current interface set up how I described above.
Also, it's important to mention that the "hot spots" have changed.. being that everyone has a space ship no one needs to use the ticket collector anymore (unless you ship is in another city hanger). And buff lines are gone too - was unique but yeah, it needed to go.
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
I feel Happy!
Don't Hate . . . . . . . Just Don't Do it.
If SOE gave a damn, the NGE would have never happened. If SOE gave a damn, they would have reverted back to the orginal game. No amount of kissing up is going to fix that.
Furthermore, devs are low-level employees. If SOE wanted to show they truely cared, they'd have regular communication from the management.
The point, the CURRENT dev team is actively communicating and implementing ideas from the community (hence, "give a damn"). What they did in the past has zero effect on me personally, I only care about the now. Like I also stated, I understand your sentiment toward SOE but it has little consequences on me personally. What kind of communication were you looking for exactly? The current dev team & producers are actively communicating and implementing ideas from the community. Frankly, these are the only people I want to communicate with because they are the ones designing the game.
No amount of idea implementation is going to fix the game. You can polish a turd but in the end it's still a turd. And no matter how much the NGE is polished, it's still not the game I bought and it's not the game that was advertised to me (It's called a bait and switch and it's illegal; and no amount of legal manuvering or EULAs can change that). The NGE is a class-based loot-centric game. If I wanted to play a game like that, I'd play one of the dozens or so other games that are infinatly more polished than the NGE.
And remember that the dev team, like every other low-level SOE employee is expendable in the eyes of the management. There is nothing stopping Smedley and his motley gang of thieves from changing the game completely again to try and attract new people and then using low-level employees like the devs and CSRs as scapegoats (like they did with Tiggs).
Since SOE keeps spamming my inboxes with "Play for free!" stuff (one of the downsides of once having 8 accounts in one of their games), I'm going to try SWG and see for myself how it stacks up. Last time I tried it (when they released the $9.99 new player pack that I got for free since no one was buying them), I didn't like the FPS style controls at all so that was a huge dealbreaker. Can't see myself playing a game if I can't even adjust to the controls (and they weren't customizable then).
I'd love to be wrong but I kinda think SWG's ship has sailed. I don't see how they can overcome such an immense amount of ill will and bad press and the fact that the game's generally used as an example of what NOT to do, by many gamers and developers.
And I'd like to point out that stuff like Creature Handler and Bio Engineer were removed because they were not "Star Warsy" and "Iconic".
Yet now they seem to be again.
Strange
This is the point alot are making. This set of devs is listening to the playerbase. Although it was removed it was also missed greatly. So it returned as many things have. The crys from the players to bring back CH is being answer to same degree. I never played a CH or BM on TC so I dont know how close it is, but I do know alot of people seem excited about it, so you are not alone. I haven't read the hype so I dont know if all the things they have brought back are being called new, but they are new to NGE just not SWG.
I for one support bringing back as much of the old game as they can
. I just wish Corbantis' population would caught Bloodfin, hehe, more people there are the more food and clothes I sell.