Originally posted by iskareot Originally posted by Immercenary Originally posted by Qui-Gon-Pwn Originally posted by Wildcat84 There is no future beyond early next year at most.
You guys have been saying things like this for the 2 yrs.
agreed and the thing is atm there are more ppl subbing to this game now than since the nasty nge hit!
10 Months later, the only way is up from the bottom of the can so, this could be true.. in fact I would bet that they gain newer players each day at the cost of a old one.
bria is a very active server with ppl starting to show up hanging out in naboos cantanas and when that starts happening ya know the populations going up lmao
Not that I care, but understand Bria was the first server, test server and always the most populated, so when others are low bria would have more... Now then, at one time there was on the avg of 300 people around the Naboo Cantina, a line to get your face done and people all over the place. -- Let me know when that happens again.
as ive said b4 regardless of them being station access or normal subs it dont matter to soe or myself they want ppl using the access plan rather than normal subs and i dont care coz theres allways somone doing the quests im on and groupings good as of late
If your comparing the NGE to nothing then I guess anything could be good. If your comparing to the old game and population, you will lose every time. So once again, the one eyed man in the land of the blind could be king, yes.
its not going anywhere..if they are keeeping mxo and ps swg aint going to die anytime soon now is it!
You never know how things work, so far we have seen this game go downhill faster each time they changed the game. I would say they will start making things smaller or condense first.
But see here is the kicker, do you know that WoW has 193 Servers overseas alone? Did you know they add 5 - 10 servers in the STATES alone each two months due to the success? Did you know that combined servers and population has gone up in WoW? Now then, I am using WoW as a example of success, not failure. If the NGE was a success, you would know it, we would here it and people would reference articles, press and awards that say so. When in fact, there is nothing even close to that. SO before you start saying (It won't) die.. then my advice to you is make sure your product is a success before you think it will last forever. Common sense will kick in sooner or later with people and they will see the product for what it is.
I WANT PRE NGE/CU SERVERS AND THE SWG I PAID FOR BACK! but im also not daft enough to think swg is going to get cancelled anytime soon! so i carry on playing regardless as it still is more enjoyable than most of the other mmorpgs out there for myself atm..came back after an exile last month and enjoying the game again with auto aim and auto attack..BUT its still not pre nge but ill just have to cope with that
I guess some people rather spend thier money differnt that's all, from making Jedi a free class, to taking out the profs, this version of the game is by all means not for everyone. I am more of a SIM, Combat type that expected SWG to stay that way. Not turn into giant circle targets, Force Polearms and Jedi running around free as a bird. But hey, the NGE is just raking in the success right? I mean all the comments made recently like "DO NOT MAKE OUR MISTAKES" from the SOE Execs, to Smedley calling the NGE as it is a "Mistake" --- see at that point I try to view the game as a product.. and investment of my time. My time has value and I base how I spend it on just that. When SOE calls thier product a mistake, I take that for some worth and agree that by all means my time is worth more then spending it on a "Mistake".
ahh and so he speaks..or should that be flame :P
read your posts enough times to know that you are not worth any kinda of reply! but i shall on this one rare occasion..and then i shall ignore your reply as it will only include flames as do all your swg trolling to players not on the "we hate soe bandwagon" !
plus your weak attempt of proving shit all with your Carebear WoW figures just puts me straight into "i cant take this guy seriously FFS he is spouting WoW Facts"
but yeah they have alot of servers..they need them theres "alot of 10 year olds in the world using mummy and daddys credit cards these days"
ALLTHOUGH!!! you do have some vaild points.i too played swg from launch day..i too have played every released mmorpg upto date,so i didnt take what soe did lightly and as so i left after CU alone nm nge..not once have i said NGE is cool,i play now as i choose to since auto aim and attack came into the game im not saying its good but it is pacifying untill vanguard and war arrives!as ive hammerd everything else into the ground and after playing the mess that is archlord have nothing else left to play so started a fresh character and playing untill the next mmorpg comes out!nothing more nothing less tbh..no fanboi here!
but your tales of doom of the population are far off thats my only point tbh! no where near nge FACT! but nowhere near the 200 per server you haters are spouting on about!
my actual points refering to brias population are not made up nor are they wrong,ive watched the population here grow steadily over the past 2 months and yes bria was the"beta server"wtf difference that makes i dont really know as 95% of the beta/vet players left after nge mostly its vets coming back and new players,and FYI the naboo fact you gave was of no use as yet again your compairing what im saying to pre nge and im looking at it since nge and all the players left! it is growing "for instance 2 months ago no-one was in naboo no one on quests and no one in the catanas and 5 ppl at most at the starport"last night i lost count of the number of players there! and no matter how much you hammer ppl like me for playing they will still play!,
id like a new swg ofc i would nge still sucks so closure would indeed pave the way for swg2 but i dont see it happening and even if it did do you all think a new swg will use the same 3 year old blue print?let me enlighten you no it wont,it will be another carebear kiddies WoW clone as thats whats working atm for mmorpgs!
just like what we have in swg atm im afraid its called NGE
i wish they would use that blueprint but the sad fact is they wouldnt
*simply laughs at anything with bioware and swg in the same sentance never gonna happen!
*feel free to flame me now...your a pro so i expect nothing but the best! but please be clever and dont just repeat the same shit again i would be gutted with the fact you are not the pro i thought you were,but instead just hacked off 2nd rate forum basher!
Originally posted by Immercenary Originally posted by iskareot Originally posted by Immercenary Originally posted by Qui-Gon-Pwn Originally posted by Wildcat84 There is no future beyond early next year at most.
You guys have been saying things like this for the 2 yrs.
agreed and the thing is atm there are more ppl subbing to this game now than since the nasty nge hit!
10 Months later, the only way is up from the bottom of the can so, this could be true.. in fact I would bet that they gain newer players each day at the cost of a old one.
bria is a very active server with ppl starting to show up hanging out in naboos cantanas and when that starts happening ya know the populations going up lmao
Not that I care, but understand Bria was the first server, test server and always the most populated, so when others are low bria would have more... Now then, at one time there was on the avg of 300 people around the Naboo Cantina, a line to get your face done and people all over the place. -- Let me know when that happens again.
as ive said b4 regardless of them being station access or normal subs it dont matter to soe or myself they want ppl using the access plan rather than normal subs and i dont care coz theres allways somone doing the quests im on and groupings good as of late
If your comparing the NGE to nothing then I guess anything could be good. If your comparing to the old game and population, you will lose every time. So once again, the one eyed man in the land of the blind could be king, yes.
its not going anywhere..if they are keeeping mxo and ps swg aint going to die anytime soon now is it!
You never know how things work, so far we have seen this game go downhill faster each time they changed the game. I would say they will start making things smaller or condense first.
But see here is the kicker, do you know that WoW has 193 Servers overseas alone? Did you know they add 5 - 10 servers in the STATES alone each two months due to the success? Did you know that combined servers and population has gone up in WoW? Now then, I am using WoW as a example of success, not failure. If the NGE was a success, you would know it, we would here it and people would reference articles, press and awards that say so. When in fact, there is nothing even close to that. SO before you start saying (It won't) die.. then my advice to you is make sure your product is a success before you think it will last forever. Common sense will kick in sooner or later with people and they will see the product for what it is.
I WANT PRE NGE/CU SERVERS AND THE SWG I PAID FOR BACK! but im also not daft enough to think swg is going to get cancelled anytime soon! so i carry on playing regardless as it still is more enjoyable than most of the other mmorpgs out there for myself atm..came back after an exile last month and enjoying the game again with auto aim and auto attack..BUT its still not pre nge but ill just have to cope with that
I guess some people rather spend thier money differnt that's all, from making Jedi a free class, to taking out the profs, this version of the game is by all means not for everyone. I am more of a SIM, Combat type that expected SWG to stay that way. Not turn into giant circle targets, Force Polearms and Jedi running around free as a bird. But hey, the NGE is just raking in the success right? I mean all the comments made recently like "DO NOT MAKE OUR MISTAKES" from the SOE Execs, to Smedley calling the NGE as it is a "Mistake" --- see at that point I try to view the game as a product.. and investment of my time. My time has value and I base how I spend it on just that. When SOE calls thier product a mistake, I take that for some worth and agree that by all means my time is worth more then spending it on a "Mistake".
ahh and so he speaks..or should that be flame :P
read your posts enough times to know that you are not worth any kinda of reply! but i shall on this one rare occasion..and then i shall ignore your reply as it will only include flames as do all your swg trolling to players not on the "we hate soe bandwagon" !
plus your weak attempt of proving shit all with your Carebear WoW figures just puts me straight into "i cant take this guy seriously FFS he is spouting WoW Facts"
but yeah they have alot of servers..they need them theres "alot of 10 year olds in the world using mummy and daddys credit cards these days"
ALLTHOUGH!!! you do have some vaild points.i too played swg from launch day..i too have played every released mmorpg upto date,so i didnt take what soe did lightly and as so i left after CU alone nm nge..not once have i said NGE is cool,i play now as i choose to since auto aim and attack came into the game im not saying its good but it is pacifying untill vanguard and war arrives!as ive hammerd everything else into the ground and after playing the mess that is archlord have nothing else left to play so started a fresh character and playing untill the next mmorpg comes out!nothing more nothing less tbh..no fanboi here!
but your tales of doom of the population are far off thats my only point tbh! no where near nge FACT! but nowhere near the 200 per server you haters are spouting on about!
my actual points refering to brias population are not made up nor are they wrong,ive watched the population here grow steadily over the past 2 months and yes bria was the"beta server"wtf difference that makes i dont really know as 95% of the beta/vet players left after nge mostly its vets coming back and new players,and FYI the naboo fact you gave was of no use as yet again your compairing what im saying to pre nge and im looking at it since nge and all the players left! it is growing "for instance 2 months ago no-one was in naboo no one on quests and no one in the catanas and 5 ppl at most at the starport"last night i lost count of the number of players there! and no matter how much you hammer ppl like me for playing they will still play!,
id like a new swg ofc i would nge still sucks so closure would indeed pave the way for swg2 but i dont see it happening and even if it did do you all think a new swg will use the same 3 year old blue print?let me enlighten you no it wont,it will be another carebear kiddies WoW clone as thats whats working atm for mmorpgs!
just like what we have in swg atm im afraid its called NGE
i wish they would use that blueprint but the sad fact is they wouldnt
*simply laughs at anything with bioware and swg in the same sentance never gonna happen!
*feel free to flame me now...your a pro so i expect nothing but the best! but please be clever and dont just repeat the same shit again i would be gutted with the fact you are not the pro i thought you were,but instead just hacked off 2nd rate forum basher!
I will get back to you when I figure out what you said. Sorry, it's to early and I have not had 12 cups of Java yet to even begin to understand this.
Although, I think it was some sort of defense of your actions, I can tell you that you need not do that. It serves you nor I any good.
(I think)..lol
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
They won't get a dime from me unless and until they undue roll back all servers to November 14, 2005, admit they tried to defraud the player base, and compensate players for everyday the NGE was in existence. Then after six month of their continues repetence I might consider coming back.
Everyone complains how it was evil for SOE to screw the pre-cu subscribers over for NGE, which I agree with, but it's not evil to screw over the people who have only played NGE and are happy? A classic server is fine, if SOE chooses to do so. But to advocate doing to thousands of gamers the same thing you are angry about by rolling back all servers is hypocritical, IMHO.
Personally, I think SOE is starting to get back on track, adding skills and options from pre-cu as well as adding new stuff to make it better. They have admitted that it was wrong what they did, but the only option now is to go forward. build on what is there now, bring back the things THAT WORKED (pre-cu was no finished game) and make them better with new additions. Creature Handler, ranger, etc. can all be integrated into the current characters and probably will if people will simply try to move forward instead of staying stuck in a continuous looping groove of "pre-cu or end the game".
Because the more they add to and upgrade the current game, the more people new and old that subscribe. And there are more people subscribing and playing every week from what I can see ingame. This game does not need to be shut down, and no playerbase needs to be excluded, pre-cu/cu/ or NGE. Everyone just needs to see the others points and maybe try to work a compromise between new and old until everyone has a game they are happy with.
Also, everyone coming off at Stradden and the mods here, accusing them of being "forum nazis" need to look at themselves first. What is the typical answer on these forums when someone asks a question about gameplay in SWG? "Don't play it and there won't be a problem!". And then everyone else chimes in and the poster leaves. So by constantly bashing people for playing or wanting to play SWG, you are denying them the same thing you seem to think you are being denied: the freedom to talk about, and receive help with, their game. As well as running off potential members/contributers of this great site. Do you not think that these people can see the other countless threads on here about pre-cu and SOEs screw-ups? Just let them have the same right to praise their game as you do to bash it without cramming pre-cu down their throats with every post.
Ok, I'm done. I know most won't read half of this before responding or will just proclaim me a fanboy (which I'm not, hence the combining of pre-cu/NGE opinion). In any case, I just had to respond and maybe even make a little sense ( I really do sometimes, you know. Scary, ain't it).
as far as Im concerned People who played came into the NGE have no say in what the game is. The true people that were screwed were the people who gave 3 years of their lives for the enjoyment of a game that was completely destroyed before their eyes, and the company says "we dont care, we are going forward" i remember I cam in JULY 2003, I was amped! i loved this game, no other MMO haev i dedicated off and on for 3 years+. who can say that? I personally believe the veterans were thrown to the side by the mismanagement of utter stupidity of SMEDLEY's unrelenting ability to mess things up, and destroy remarkable franchises and then poop on them and sour them forever in the eyes of people who enjoyed it.
its a frigging GREEk tragedy! IT sad at its core, its nothing more than a MMO/FPS with a inept inadequate Combat/Targeting system that seems slapped on in hopes to bring in more "causal players" when we had them all the while. THe original system for all its errors, bugs, and mishaps was loved by all. NO other MMO can flaunt it had 26 PROFESSIONS!! forget ICONIC! who wants to be iconic unless ur a total TOOL! I wanted to make my own mark in the server, I was on my way to doing that.
Cities flourished, TRADE was ABOUND, COrellia, Mos Eisley always stocked with trader, Doctors, Engineers hocking their goods and services! it was amazing, all the while an epic battle between Rebels and IMperials continued! BOunty hunters acquiring marks unknown terrain, scanning the country side for their mark, whilst evading dangerous animal Life.
RANGERS, SCOUTS, RIFLEMEN, PISTOLEERS, TERA KASI ARTISTS, DOCTORS,COMBAT MEDICS, DROID ENGINEERS, VENERABLE CREATURE HANDLER WHO blows into town with a tamed RANCOR!, the LIST GOES ON!, the game HAD depth, the game Had intrigue! the game had its own individuality, and you could be your own person! be who u wanted to be, mix up classes every which way but loose. I WAS A BOUNTY HUNTER WITH VIBROKNUCKLER MELEE/ AND PISTOLEER CENTERED EXPERIENCE. I was deadly! it was fuN! then they blew the rug from under us for this misshapen POS! Like i said its a Fuggin tragedy! ANd i am saddened by my experience in which my game was torn from me, and something that looked like theg ame but wasnt what I knew.
i tried to be unbaised, try to not be judgemental!, but anyone with a half a brain, could see this game system/mechanic was a blatant attempt to avoid fixing a buggy otherwise wonderfully enjoyable game! if they took their time, stayed true, listned to bug reports, and worked hard, and hell, maybe even had competent development team, and KICK SMEDLEY's ASS To the curb, we Would still have our SWG we always known and loved! But alas, it is no more, I forone have to move on, I love my game, i miss it, I am depressed at the notion My game I worked so hard on, is washed away into oblivion! I only wish SOE would admit to wrongdoing bring back Classic servers, and rework on the original System I garaunteed you, people would come back IN droves at the sound of CLASSIC game back and being reworked " I would be one of them one immediately opening my wallet for that. I loved my SWG game that much! I m sure so many of you did as well. We can always hope, and pray, but ...im sure the reality is much more uninviting considering the pattern of SOE's foul ups over the last year or more.
Im done, lol. i have vented. thats it.
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No because most NGE players still prefer the old system and they would vote accordingly. Only reasons most play today is because its the only Star Wars MMOG out.
Hate to say it but this game has no future, use to love it, i mean STAR WARS!!!! JEDI!!!! LIGHT SABERS!!!! WOOKIES!!!!! MUHAHAAHHAA....now........rather poke my eyes out with a pitch fork....in fact I will!!!!!
The problem I have with this game is, it is not a MMO any more. Every 40th level bounty hunter is exactly the same as any other. The idea of a MMO is to differentiate your character, which is really not possible in the existing game. When they allow this I might think about subbing again.
im not sure what its future is atm..all i know is the future of my accounts are closed until precu classic servers come online..other than that i could careless what state its in cause the game died long ago for me..classic servers would fill up so fast they have to know this its allmost like they want it to shut down(my opinion) cause its a fact that pre april 05 the game was jam packed with players..now your lucky to see 20 at any given time...heck i have over 100 players in my guild online daily pre nerf..so enjoy the New Garbage Enhancements cause the vets got the shaft and sadly so will the current NGEfans..cause soon youll be vets SOE will want rid of you too..just looking at past treatments cause they sure could care less about 250k paying customers vs the ones they have now..so yeah just wait they will do something again to try and "SAVE" it again...pulling the plug maybe or revamp Number 4 lol...
Again I must say... SOE needs to lose this license... BioWare/Pandemic need to gain it. The two companies are collaborating on a 'secret sci-fi' mmorpg. BioWare wrote quite possibly the best Star Wars story ever in Knights of the Old Republic and Pandemic has worked on numerous Star Wars video games including Battlefront and Clone Wars. Is it too much to ask for to have this be the future of Star Wars MMO? I'm gonna keep hoping for the good news even if it doesn't come because Galaxies... sadly it's dead to me.
Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.
Go vote at the lucasarts poll for the best version of SWG. From 1/30/07 to 2/06/07 they will be conducting a poll to see what version people like the best. If you are a vet of SWG and wanna tell L.A. and SOE that they screwed up, nows your chance. Obviously they are listening now, or want to listen or they would not have posted this poll. Make your voice heard and vote before it's too late.
Goto the link, it's on the right side of the screen. You can only vote once per I.P. address. Spread the word and lets show them how back they screwed the game and us.
As of now, pre-CU is running away with it, and has 77% of the vote so far. YAY!!! Please vote and spread the word. They are listening.
Really does anyone actually think a poll will change their minds?300k Vets left isnt poll enough? Obivously if any thing mattered they wouldve figured it out by now..Mass cancellations didnt change the game why would a poll? Honestly i miss the old gameplay alot and havent found a game that keeps me intrested for more than a few hours..
The old precu system kept me paying and playing and i would love to see a classic game server..Will they ever do it? I doubt it for some reason they'd rather Keep 10000 paying subs vs 300k.It makes no sense to me why the game is still in the NGE when they have to know its a huge failure..Oh well poll or no poll we all know the truth the game is dying slowly and has since april 05.Now just fix it back call it the NGE2 and put back everything they took out..That way they can save face..Simple really..
I'm wondering what the reason for that poll is since Smedley posted they're never going to bring back the pre-NGE servers.
NOTHING that SOE says publicly should EVER be taken at face value.
Smedly also stated that "the CU is here to stay", and how long did that last?
"Uh, we had a slight weapons malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?"
There is no future for SWG. I'm sure of that. 4yrs later and it's still bugged to hell. I don't think they'll ever fix it. If you haven't read, Raph is working on a new MMO. He made SWG what it used to be, and he still has the same ideas of what an MMO should be. There my be hope for a new MMO that reflects a lot of what SWG had to offer. Read this interview from 5 days ago.
If this has been stated before at point I apologize for repeating this.
I like SWG, big fan and I put up with the changes...
The way I see it, it seems like the NGE is slowly incorporating what the old vets used to play back in the day, its just done differently is all.
A change was made that affected a community regardless of which side of the fence a person was on, it affected there gameplay through either loss of comrades or loss of abilities.
To cut to the chase its as simple as this. Pre CU peeps they already done it to us (CHANGE), Post CU peeps, they just might do it to you so just be prepared. Just think if that happens again, we will all be on the same side of sorts!
Then the next generation of jedi down to merchant alike can all bear witness to the change and so the argument continues...
The simple truth, SOMEONE somewhere cares about this game and they doing the best they can do I imagine, think back to 15-20 years ago, Text muds! Zork, Atari, C64, colecovision, 640kb computers!(2K bucks!), Y2K!, .89 cents a gallon for gas!... Change happened for whatever reason, now look at us! Some of it sucks like the 4$ per gallon of gas, but some of it rocks! (WII). As things evolve, things do get better and they get a little ridiculous. You can be the person that complains about the gas or take advantage of what we got and keep the community rich for the next gen folks.
I just like this game too much to leave it, the concept and all, I played alot of other MMOs out there, some of em good, some of em a joke, but they all missing that SWG feel, maybe its the music.
I'd vote for pre-cu, not that i ever played the game in any form, but it sounds like it could have been fun and would sign up for it, but not what's in the current state.
But I don't see any such polls on that link? There's a link to polls in the top menu, but no swg poll there.. I must be blind
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agreed and the thing is atm there are more ppl subbing to this game now than since the nasty nge hit!
10 Months later, the only way is up from the bottom of the can so, this could be true.. in fact I would bet that they gain newer players each day at the cost of a old one.
bria is a very active server with ppl starting to show up hanging out in naboos cantanas and when that starts happening ya know the populations going up lmao
Not that I care, but understand Bria was the first server, test server and always the most populated, so when others are low bria would have more... Now then, at one time there was on the avg of 300 people around the Naboo Cantina, a line to get your face done and people all over the place. -- Let me know when that happens again.
as ive said b4 regardless of them being station access or normal subs it dont matter to soe or myself they want ppl using the access plan rather than normal subs and i dont care coz theres allways somone doing the quests im on and groupings good as of late
If your comparing the NGE to nothing then I guess anything could be good. If your comparing to the old game and population, you will lose every time. So once again, the one eyed man in the land of the blind could be king, yes.
its not going anywhere..if they are keeeping mxo and ps swg aint going to die anytime soon now is it!
You never know how things work, so far we have seen this game go downhill faster each time they changed the game. I would say they will start making things smaller or condense first.
But see here is the kicker, do you know that WoW has 193 Servers overseas alone? Did you know they add 5 - 10 servers in the STATES alone each two months due to the success? Did you know that combined servers and population has gone up in WoW? Now then, I am using WoW as a example of success, not failure. If the NGE was a success, you would know it, we would here it and people would reference articles, press and awards that say so. When in fact, there is nothing even close to that. SO before you start saying (It won't) die.. then my advice to you is make sure your product is a success before you think it will last forever. Common sense will kick in sooner or later with people and they will see the product for what it is.
I WANT PRE NGE/CU SERVERS AND THE SWG I PAID FOR BACK!
but im also not daft enough to think swg is going to get cancelled anytime soon!
so i carry on playing regardless as it still is more enjoyable than most of the other mmorpgs out there for myself atm..came back after an exile last month and enjoying the game again with auto aim and auto attack..BUT its still not pre nge but ill just have to cope with that
I guess some people rather spend thier money differnt that's all, from making Jedi a free class, to taking out the profs, this version of the game is by all means not for everyone. I am more of a SIM, Combat type that expected SWG to stay that way. Not turn into giant circle targets, Force Polearms and Jedi running around free as a bird. But hey, the NGE is just raking in the success right? I mean all the comments made recently like "DO NOT MAKE OUR MISTAKES" from the SOE Execs, to Smedley calling the NGE as it is a "Mistake" --- see at that point I try to view the game as a product.. and investment of my time. My time has value and I base how I spend it on just that. When SOE calls thier product a mistake, I take that for some worth and agree that by all means my time is worth more then spending it on a "Mistake".
ahh and so he speaks..or should that be flame :P
read your posts enough times to know that you are not worth any kinda of reply!
but i shall on this one rare occasion..and then i shall ignore your reply as it will only include flames as do all your swg trolling to players not on the "we hate soe bandwagon" !
plus your weak attempt of proving shit all with your Carebear WoW figures just puts me straight into "i cant take this guy seriously FFS he is spouting WoW Facts"
but yeah they have alot of servers..they need them theres "alot of 10 year olds in the world using mummy and daddys credit cards these days"
ALLTHOUGH!!! you do have some vaild points.i too played swg from launch day..i too have played every released mmorpg upto date,so i didnt take what soe did lightly and as so i left after CU alone nm nge..not once have i said NGE is cool,i play now as i choose to since auto aim and attack came into the game im not saying its good but it is pacifying untill vanguard and war arrives!as ive hammerd everything else into the ground and after playing the mess that is archlord have nothing else left to play so started a fresh character and playing untill the next mmorpg comes out!nothing more nothing less tbh..no fanboi here!
but your tales of doom of the population are far off thats my only point tbh!
no where near nge FACT! but nowhere near the 200 per server you haters are spouting on about!
my actual points refering to brias population are not made up nor are they wrong,ive watched the population here grow steadily over the past 2 months and yes bria was the"beta server"wtf difference that makes i dont really know as 95% of the beta/vet players left after nge mostly its vets coming back and new players,and FYI the naboo fact you gave was of no use as yet again your compairing what im saying to pre nge and im looking at it since nge and all the players left! it is growing "for instance 2 months ago no-one was in naboo no one on quests and no one in the catanas and 5 ppl at most at the starport"last night i lost count of the number of players there! and no matter how much you hammer ppl like me for playing they will still play!,
id like a new swg ofc i would nge still sucks so closure would indeed pave the way for swg2 but i dont see it happening and even if it did do you all think a new swg will use the same 3 year old blue print?let me enlighten you no it wont,it will be another carebear kiddies WoW clone as thats whats working atm for mmorpgs!
just like what we have in swg atm im afraid its called NGE
i wish they would use that blueprint but the sad fact is they wouldnt
*simply laughs at anything with bioware and swg in the same sentance never gonna happen!
*feel free to flame me now...your a pro so i expect nothing but the best!
but please be clever and dont just repeat the same shit again i would be gutted with the fact you are not the pro i thought you were,but instead just hacked off 2nd rate forum basher!
agreed and the thing is atm there are more ppl subbing to this game now than since the nasty nge hit!
10 Months later, the only way is up from the bottom of the can so, this could be true.. in fact I would bet that they gain newer players each day at the cost of a old one.
bria is a very active server with ppl starting to show up hanging out in naboos cantanas and when that starts happening ya know the populations going up lmao
Not that I care, but understand Bria was the first server, test server and always the most populated, so when others are low bria would have more... Now then, at one time there was on the avg of 300 people around the Naboo Cantina, a line to get your face done and people all over the place. -- Let me know when that happens again.
as ive said b4 regardless of them being station access or normal subs it dont matter to soe or myself they want ppl using the access plan rather than normal subs and i dont care coz theres allways somone doing the quests im on and groupings good as of late
If your comparing the NGE to nothing then I guess anything could be good. If your comparing to the old game and population, you will lose every time. So once again, the one eyed man in the land of the blind could be king, yes.
its not going anywhere..if they are keeeping mxo and ps swg aint going to die anytime soon now is it!
You never know how things work, so far we have seen this game go downhill faster each time they changed the game. I would say they will start making things smaller or condense first.
But see here is the kicker, do you know that WoW has 193 Servers overseas alone? Did you know they add 5 - 10 servers in the STATES alone each two months due to the success? Did you know that combined servers and population has gone up in WoW? Now then, I am using WoW as a example of success, not failure. If the NGE was a success, you would know it, we would here it and people would reference articles, press and awards that say so. When in fact, there is nothing even close to that. SO before you start saying (It won't) die.. then my advice to you is make sure your product is a success before you think it will last forever. Common sense will kick in sooner or later with people and they will see the product for what it is.
I WANT PRE NGE/CU SERVERS AND THE SWG I PAID FOR BACK!
but im also not daft enough to think swg is going to get cancelled anytime soon!
so i carry on playing regardless as it still is more enjoyable than most of the other mmorpgs out there for myself atm..came back after an exile last month and enjoying the game again with auto aim and auto attack..BUT its still not pre nge but ill just have to cope with that
I guess some people rather spend thier money differnt that's all, from making Jedi a free class, to taking out the profs, this version of the game is by all means not for everyone. I am more of a SIM, Combat type that expected SWG to stay that way. Not turn into giant circle targets, Force Polearms and Jedi running around free as a bird. But hey, the NGE is just raking in the success right? I mean all the comments made recently like "DO NOT MAKE OUR MISTAKES" from the SOE Execs, to Smedley calling the NGE as it is a "Mistake" --- see at that point I try to view the game as a product.. and investment of my time. My time has value and I base how I spend it on just that. When SOE calls thier product a mistake, I take that for some worth and agree that by all means my time is worth more then spending it on a "Mistake".
ahh and so he speaks..or should that be flame :P
read your posts enough times to know that you are not worth any kinda of reply!
but i shall on this one rare occasion..and then i shall ignore your reply as it will only include flames as do all your swg trolling to players not on the "we hate soe bandwagon" !
plus your weak attempt of proving shit all with your Carebear WoW figures just puts me straight into "i cant take this guy seriously FFS he is spouting WoW Facts"
but yeah they have alot of servers..they need them theres "alot of 10 year olds in the world using mummy and daddys credit cards these days"
ALLTHOUGH!!! you do have some vaild points.i too played swg from launch day..i too have played every released mmorpg upto date,so i didnt take what soe did lightly and as so i left after CU alone nm nge..not once have i said NGE is cool,i play now as i choose to since auto aim and attack came into the game im not saying its good but it is pacifying untill vanguard and war arrives!as ive hammerd everything else into the ground and after playing the mess that is archlord have nothing else left to play so started a fresh character and playing untill the next mmorpg comes out!nothing more nothing less tbh..no fanboi here!
but your tales of doom of the population are far off thats my only point tbh!
no where near nge FACT! but nowhere near the 200 per server you haters are spouting on about!
my actual points refering to brias population are not made up nor are they wrong,ive watched the population here grow steadily over the past 2 months and yes bria was the"beta server"wtf difference that makes i dont really know as 95% of the beta/vet players left after nge mostly its vets coming back and new players,and FYI the naboo fact you gave was of no use as yet again your compairing what im saying to pre nge and im looking at it since nge and all the players left! it is growing "for instance 2 months ago no-one was in naboo no one on quests and no one in the catanas and 5 ppl at most at the starport"last night i lost count of the number of players there! and no matter how much you hammer ppl like me for playing they will still play!,
id like a new swg ofc i would nge still sucks so closure would indeed pave the way for swg2 but i dont see it happening and even if it did do you all think a new swg will use the same 3 year old blue print?let me enlighten you no it wont,it will be another carebear kiddies WoW clone as thats whats working atm for mmorpgs!
just like what we have in swg atm im afraid its called NGE
i wish they would use that blueprint but the sad fact is they wouldnt
*simply laughs at anything with bioware and swg in the same sentance never gonna happen!
*feel free to flame me now...your a pro so i expect nothing but the best!
but please be clever and dont just repeat the same shit again i would be gutted with the fact you are not the pro i thought you were,but instead just hacked off 2nd rate forum basher!
I will get back to you when I figure out what you said. Sorry, it's to early and I have not had 12 cups of Java yet to even begin to understand this.
Although, I think it was some sort of defense of your actions, I can tell you that you need not do that. It serves you nor I any good.
(I think)..lol
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I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Which FF Character Are You?
I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is over self.
--Aristotle
But not one thin dime of my money goes to subsidize Smed's incompetence from here out.
Everyone complains how it was evil for SOE to screw the pre-cu subscribers over for NGE, which I agree with, but it's not evil to screw over the people who have only played NGE and are happy? A classic server is fine, if SOE chooses to do so. But to advocate doing to thousands of gamers the same thing you are angry about by rolling back all servers is hypocritical, IMHO.
Personally, I think SOE is starting to get back on track, adding skills and options from pre-cu as well as adding new stuff to make it better. They have admitted that it was wrong what they did, but the only option now is to go forward. build on what is there now, bring back the things THAT WORKED (pre-cu was no finished game) and make them better with new additions. Creature Handler, ranger, etc. can all be integrated into the current characters and probably will if people will simply try to move forward instead of staying stuck in a continuous looping groove of "pre-cu or end the game".
Because the more they add to and upgrade the current game, the more people new and old that subscribe. And there are more people subscribing and playing every week from what I can see ingame. This game does not need to be shut down, and no playerbase needs to be excluded, pre-cu/cu/ or NGE. Everyone just needs to see the others points and maybe try to work a compromise between new and old until everyone has a game they are happy with.
Also, everyone coming off at Stradden and the mods here, accusing them of being "forum nazis" need to look at themselves first. What is the typical answer on these forums when someone asks a question about gameplay in SWG? "Don't play it and there won't be a problem!". And then everyone else chimes in and the poster leaves. So by constantly bashing people for playing or wanting to play SWG, you are denying them the same thing you seem to think you are being denied: the freedom to talk about, and receive help with, their game. As well as running off potential members/contributers of this great site. Do you not think that these people can see the other countless threads on here about pre-cu and SOEs screw-ups? Just let them have the same right to praise their game as you do to bash it without cramming pre-cu down their throats with every post.
Ok, I'm done. I know most won't read half of this before responding or will just proclaim me a fanboy (which I'm not, hence the combining of pre-cu/NGE opinion). In any case, I just had to respond and maybe even make a little sense ( I really do sometimes, you know. Scary, ain't it).
as far as Im concerned People who played came into the NGE have no say in what the game is. The true people that were screwed were the people who gave 3 years of their lives for the enjoyment of a game that was completely destroyed before their eyes, and the company says "we dont care, we are going forward" i remember I cam in JULY 2003, I was amped! i loved this game, no other MMO haev i dedicated off and on for 3 years+. who can say that? I personally believe the veterans were thrown to the side by the mismanagement of utter stupidity of SMEDLEY's unrelenting ability to mess things up, and destroy remarkable franchises and then poop on them and sour them forever in the eyes of people who enjoyed it.
its a frigging GREEk tragedy! IT sad at its core, its nothing more than a MMO/FPS with a inept inadequate Combat/Targeting system that seems slapped on in hopes to bring in more "causal players" when we had them all the while. THe original system for all its errors, bugs, and mishaps was loved by all. NO other MMO can flaunt it had 26 PROFESSIONS!! forget ICONIC! who wants to be iconic unless ur a total TOOL! I wanted to make my own mark in the server, I was on my way to doing that.
Cities flourished, TRADE was ABOUND, COrellia, Mos Eisley always stocked with trader, Doctors, Engineers hocking their goods and services! it was amazing, all the while an epic battle between Rebels and IMperials continued! BOunty hunters acquiring marks unknown terrain, scanning the country side for their mark, whilst evading dangerous animal Life.
RANGERS, SCOUTS, RIFLEMEN, PISTOLEERS, TERA KASI ARTISTS, DOCTORS,COMBAT MEDICS, DROID ENGINEERS, VENERABLE CREATURE HANDLER WHO blows into town with a tamed RANCOR!, the LIST GOES ON!, the game HAD depth, the game Had intrigue! the game had its own individuality, and you could be your own person! be who u wanted to be, mix up classes every which way but loose. I WAS A BOUNTY HUNTER WITH VIBROKNUCKLER MELEE/ AND PISTOLEER CENTERED EXPERIENCE. I was deadly! it was fuN! then they blew the rug from under us for this misshapen POS! Like i said its a Fuggin tragedy! ANd i am saddened by my experience in which my game was torn from me, and something that looked like theg ame but wasnt what I knew.
i tried to be unbaised, try to not be judgemental!, but anyone with a half a brain, could see this game system/mechanic was a blatant attempt to avoid fixing a buggy otherwise wonderfully enjoyable game! if they took their time, stayed true, listned to bug reports, and worked hard, and hell, maybe even had competent development team, and KICK SMEDLEY's ASS To the curb, we Would still have our SWG we always known and loved! But alas, it is no more, I forone have to move on, I love my game, i miss it, I am depressed at the notion My game I worked so hard on, is washed away into oblivion! I only wish SOE would admit to wrongdoing bring back Classic servers, and rework on the original System I garaunteed you, people would come back IN droves at the sound of CLASSIC game back and being reworked " I would be one of them one immediately opening my wallet for that. I loved my SWG game that much! I m sure so many of you did as well. We can always hope, and pray, but ...im sure the reality is much more uninviting considering the pattern of SOE's foul ups over the last year or more.
Im done, lol. i have vented. thats it.
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I know this is only far fetched speculation, but damn would it be sweet:
http://pc.ign.com/articles/724/724236p1.html
BioWare's secret MMO Star Wars related? If anyone can create a worthy Star Wars MMO, it would be a new game developed by BioWare.
BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.
playing eq2 and two worlds
BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.
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Goto the link, it's on the right side of the screen. You can only vote once per I.P. address. Spread the word and lets show them how back they screwed the game and us.
As of now, pre-CU is running away with it, and has 77% of the vote so far. YAY!!! Please vote and spread the word. They are listening.
Really does anyone actually think a poll will change their minds?300k Vets left isnt poll enough? Obivously if any thing mattered they wouldve figured it out by now..Mass cancellations didnt change the game why would a poll? Honestly i miss the old gameplay alot and havent found a game that keeps me intrested for more than a few hours..
The old precu system kept me paying and playing and i would love to see a classic game server..Will they ever do it? I doubt it for some reason they'd rather Keep 10000 paying subs vs 300k.It makes no sense to me why the game is still in the NGE when they have to know its a huge failure..Oh well poll or no poll we all know the truth the game is dying slowly and has since april 05.Now just fix it back call it the NGE2 and put back everything they took out..That way they can save face..Simple really..
NOTHING that SOE says publicly should EVER be taken at face value.
Smedly also stated that "the CU is here to stay", and how long did that last?
"Uh, we had a slight weapons malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now.
We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?"
www.realmmo.com/
NOTHING that SOE says publicly should EVER be taken at face value.
Smedly also stated that "the CU is here to stay", and how long did that last?
Things happen, things change, and that can overtake statements made.
SOE didn't create the poll, it's on Lucas Arts site.
I like SWG, big fan and I put up with the changes...
The way I see it, it seems like the NGE is slowly incorporating what the old vets used to play back in the day, its just done differently is all.
A change was made that affected a community regardless of which side of the fence a person was on, it affected there gameplay through either loss of comrades or loss of abilities.
To cut to the chase its as simple as this. Pre CU peeps they already done it to us (CHANGE), Post CU peeps, they just might do it to you so just be prepared. Just think if that happens again, we will all be on the same side of sorts!
Then the next generation of jedi down to merchant alike can all bear witness to the change and so the argument continues...
The simple truth, SOMEONE somewhere cares about this game and they doing the best they can do I imagine, think back to 15-20 years ago, Text muds! Zork, Atari, C64, colecovision, 640kb computers!(2K bucks!), Y2K!, .89 cents a gallon for gas!... Change happened for whatever reason, now look at us! Some of it sucks like the 4$ per gallon of gas, but some of it rocks! (WII). As things evolve, things do get better and they get a little ridiculous. You can be the person that complains about the gas or take advantage of what we got and keep the community rich for the next gen folks.
I just like this game too much to leave it, the concept and all, I played alot of other MMOs out there, some of em good, some of em a joke, but they all missing that SWG feel, maybe its the music.
To each there own though...
But I don't see any such polls on that link? There's a link to polls in the top menu, but no swg poll there.. I must be blind