Let me break it down into a simple metaphor: Old, launch swg, (pre-cu, if you will) was like having your favorite kind of cake (or dessert, whatever.) NGE, is like a shit sandwich. Now, what you may be saying is true and there have been LOTS of improvements since the implementation of said shit sandwich. Now, adding that bit of extra lettuce or tomato or cheese whatever, certainly did raise it's quality. But in the end? It's still a shit sandwich. People fail to realize, that SWG Pre-CU and SWG NGE are two VERY different games. When I went out and picked up SWG, I knew what I was getting, and had a general idea of what the game would be like, save for occasional balance changes, etc, which is to be expected. SWG NGE is NOT a game that I want to play. It is not what I purchased, and it is not what I am interested in in regards to an MMO. If I wanted a sci-fi grindfest, I would happily go back and resubscribe to say, Phantasy Star Online. The fact of the matter is, this is going to turn into nothing but an age old "chicken and the egg" routine. Stop trying to convince the Pre CU vets to "come back and try it". We don't WANT to come back and try it, because it's not the type of game that many of us want to play in the FIRST place. Now, SWG NGE may be all well and good for some people, and I'm happy for them. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. However, it doesn't work for my tastes, because all it is to me right now is a cheap bastardization of a game that I was particularly fond of at one point in time. This isn't a situation of just "oh, we rebalanced a few items here and there." Do people not understand that essentially the entire GAME was wiped? All you're looking at now is a whole different game with the bloodied and ripped skin of SWG Pre-CU drapped over it like a wolf hiding in a pack of sheep. So in short. Yeah. You can continue to like SWGNGE. Count me out. Come talk to me when it's more similar to the game that I bought at launch, not this turd that's stuffed between two pieces of bread that I'm expected to enjoy. IF Swg had launched way back in 2003, as this current NGE.... I wouldn't have bought the game. Plain and simple.
.......Oh. FYI. Not intended to be a flame to OP. Just.... passionate about the subject.
Good I am glad you are passionate about the subject so am I.
No what is it you dont like, I mean I will agree i played it Pre CU and all the way through till now and I know the differnces and it is a matter of taste I seem to like the taste of shit it would seem lol, so please tell me what it is you dont like.
basically i feel all to often the truth is drowned out by the overwhelming point of view of some angry people
Funny thing is I feel exactly the same way when I read the "what was wrong with pre-CU" posts. I think there was a lot of uninformed opinions concerning pre-CU and for that reason many people like myself feel it's important to defend it.
Well Daneti, as I have an account on Valcyn, and have had since july 03, I know a bit of the reality behind your shameless hyping of a broken game.
Like.. could the reason you have 5 accounts be that it is the ONLY way to get some things crafted.. How many Armorsmiths with vendors and stock are on the server? Orad, Xorpx, and a couple others.. and mostly just Orad.
How many Weaponsmiths? One-two? Droid Engineers, Archys?
The crafting community is dead. You know this.
Most of the broker listing are loot. Public broker listings.. with the exception of Mos Eisley, most city broker listings in game are empty. Compare this to Pre CU when brokers in Bestine, Coronet, et al were packed with entry level goods and consumables.
I had to find a tailor online on Starsider.. it took a week to get a pair of simple black leather boots. There are seriously one-two crafters active per profession per server. I pity a new player looking for anything affordable or simple.. there is nothing there.
How long do you think Pokemon Wars will hold interest? The RE thing is already dead, the weapons Attachs wont make a substandard PM weapon compete loots, most people have thier +35 armor, leaving a very few crafters even caring to make clothing and armor powerups.. and the same will happen with Pokemon.
This game has had MORE second chances than any other MMO I know of.. and they keep snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
People come back for the things that were in Launch, or the first expansion. Housing, Char Customization, Ent career track, Space.
the "new" stuff is nothing, and is only a shallow retread of things they took away, and fails to hold the interest of anyone who played Rafe Koster''s version of the game.
Without comparing Pre CU to now, the game is missing some very key elements of the better MMOs. Risk vs Rewards. Long Term char Progression. Clearly understood and meaningful character attribute and itemization system. Meaningful solo and group PvE content. Guild reward and level system. These are core concepts missing from the game today.
Rose colored glasses wont make SWG a good game, it isnt a good game, and I would not buy it today if this version were brand new.
basically i feel all to often the truth is drowned out by the overwhelming point of view of some angry people
Funny thing is I feel exactly the same way when I read the "what was wrong with pre-CU" posts. I think there was a lot of uninformed opinions concerning pre-CU and for that reason many people like myself feel it's important to defend it.
I liked Pre CU I really did, but when it disapeared and had to adapt and overcome so I did I wanted to play this game so I carried on regardless and in the end I learned to really enjoy the NGE style, this is not for everyone it really isnt I just would like everyone to be informed as to what it is really all about.
People say there loads of bugs which there was but no so much and there was bugs back in CU it is the nature of the beast at the end of the day.
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No what is it you dont like, I mean I will agree i played it Pre CU and all the way through till now and I know the differnces and it is a matter of taste I seem to like the taste of shit it would seem lol, so please tell me what it is you dont like.
Funny thing is I feel exactly the same way when I read the "what was wrong with pre-CU" posts. I think there was a lot of uninformed opinions concerning pre-CU and for that reason many people like myself feel it's important to defend it.
Well Daneti, as I have an account on Valcyn, and have had since july 03, I know a bit of the reality behind your shameless hyping of a broken game.
Like.. could the reason you have 5 accounts be that it is the ONLY way to get some things crafted.. How many Armorsmiths with vendors and stock are on the server? Orad, Xorpx, and a couple others.. and mostly just Orad.
How many Weaponsmiths? One-two? Droid Engineers, Archys?
The crafting community is dead. You know this.
Most of the broker listing are loot. Public broker listings.. with the exception of Mos Eisley, most city broker listings in game are empty. Compare this to Pre CU when brokers in Bestine, Coronet, et al were packed with entry level goods and consumables.
I had to find a tailor online on Starsider.. it took a week to get a pair of simple black leather boots. There are seriously one-two crafters active per profession per server. I pity a new player looking for anything affordable or simple.. there is nothing there.
How long do you think Pokemon Wars will hold interest? The RE thing is already dead, the weapons Attachs wont make a substandard PM weapon compete loots, most people have thier +35 armor, leaving a very few crafters even caring to make clothing and armor powerups.. and the same will happen with Pokemon.
This game has had MORE second chances than any other MMO I know of.. and they keep snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
People come back for the things that were in Launch, or the first expansion. Housing, Char Customization, Ent career track, Space.
the "new" stuff is nothing, and is only a shallow retread of things they took away, and fails to hold the interest of anyone who played Rafe Koster''s version of the game.
Without comparing Pre CU to now, the game is missing some very key elements of the better MMOs. Risk vs Rewards. Long Term char Progression. Clearly understood and meaningful character attribute and itemization system. Meaningful solo and group PvE content. Guild reward and level system. These are core concepts missing from the game today.
Rose colored glasses wont make SWG a good game, it isnt a good game, and I would not buy it today if this version were brand new.
I liked Pre CU I really did, but when it disapeared and had to adapt and overcome so I did I wanted to play this game so I carried on regardless and in the end I learned to really enjoy the NGE style, this is not for everyone it really isnt I just would like everyone to be informed as to what it is really all about.Funny thing is I feel exactly the same way when I read the "what was wrong with pre-CU" posts. I think there was a lot of uninformed opinions concerning pre-CU and for that reason many people like myself feel it's important to defend it.
People say there loads of bugs which there was but no so much and there was bugs back in CU it is the nature of the beast at the end of the day.