All the negativity hehe, well I don't blame you all, but as many know i went back to swg and have been loving it. Seems I am not the only one sence I have plenty of bounties to choose from. Nothing like in the old days for sure, but still plenty there and lots of pvp. So eh, I like it now more then before and that my opinion on it.
As far as the other stuff, gods and heroes I have to say I have been following and looks really sweet, definitly going to try that one out. As far as all other SOE products in current standings i have no intrest because they are to me "past the time". But swg keeps me busy and with the CH class coming back along with new content and more, the new dev team rocks! Anyways, bash away.. you have for over a year now and i doubt that will ever change. Salu!
oh and p.s.
I have to say that most of your sigs are ummm intresting, but it's the people like you that no one wants in their MMO , take a guess why that is? Yea, I am picking a fight again, just like the 'starwars is dead jim' sig guy. Let it go! havn't you heard by now... "its just a game, don't like it move on" you guys act like people like reading your constant repeatable banter that can be found in a thousand threads by the same people over and over and over and over and over and over really matters , well ok it matters to you and the other 15 people who keep complaining, but thats about it or you guys going for the longest complaint in gaming history record? eh bash away again, it's the only thing you know how to do at this point.
"it be getting old jim"
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
SOE will always be the underdog in the mmorpg business until they seriously change their PR .
I think more people will play Marvel, not only because Marvel is much cooler also because the letters SOE send shivers
down gamers spines.
WoW>swg/Vanguard
Age of Conan>Gods and heroes
Marvel>DC online
And I rather pay $15-20 a month for a solid fun game than $30 for a dozen average/bad games
Its all opinionated. I see lots of people playing and a lot of people having fun on SOE Games. Sometimes there just isnt anything else out there worth playing and we are drawn to the likes of EQ2. Some people still even play Matrix Online...and SOE still supports them. Some people still drag around in EQ1 and you know what...SOE still supports them. Planetside?...an under rated game that a few people play and still gets support from SOE. SWG?...yes people are playing...people are there...regardless of what you say here...and you know what?....Its still getting updates and patches. They are doing some type of work.
People want to complain because they have nothing better to do with their time...they complain about every game because it does not meet their expectations or they downloaded a patch that does not fit their needs. If the developers didn't do what little work you guys say they do...then you would NEVER see even a glimmer of these games to bitch about.
Some people will say "spellborn" sucks. (I do) Some people will say "WoW" is very very played out. Some will say FFXI online really really sucks. (I will say that) Some people say LOTRO is a mini little "WoW." Some people will say DDO was never an MMO. Saga of Ryzom...some will say their sick of these korean mmo knock-offs and Id rather play a single player game on Playstation 3 ... RF online...a possible failure. Archlord?
Now after I said the few bad things about your favorite games (see above) your probably ready to make a big long statement about how game A is better then all of SOE games put together....Sure, great, have fun doing that....but you know what...its all opinion...and if you really think about it....does not really matter....If a fellow is having fun playing SWG....well let him.
SWG is nothing like WoW...how the freak could it be?...Wait....everything is like Wow....Im sorry....SOE and Lucas arts was a doomed partnership...they couldn't get the blocks to fit...we all know that...they know that...stop beating a dead horse...its over...been over for more then a year. Vanguard? Dont know what to say...it needs serious patching....but I would rather play that then FFXI or Wow. That simple. My opinion. How do you know that Gods and Heroes is like Age of Conan? These games are in beta right now and will more then likely change at least 5 times before final release. Conan was build and designed for play on the x-box 360...Gods and Heroes was not..(so far)...big difference. Marvel Online? Only vague information...DC online? Only vague information...you could say they are the same as COH/COV because they have supers in it. Ok ill say it...they are the same because they have supers in it......If i am going that far ..... Fantasy game mmo (insert game here) same as EQ1 or UO or whatever you want to say cause Wow just took common themes and made it colorful and based it on their popular warcraft single player games. Space game mmo (insert game here) same as SWG....Hummm...same as...something...dont know yet...but i bet you can figure it out for me.
You dont want to support SOE? Ok, that is fine...thanks for telling us for the last million times you told us. Who the **** cares anymore. Get a life.
No point reading this because it's just the same old.........
4/5 lackluster mmorpgs out with content noone could care less if it came out or not and 1 upcoming mmorpg which looks good but i'm sure it'll be ruined at some point.
QFT. They all run on the same crappy 5 year old engine. They need to update that thing. You ever jump with a character in a sony game? It's ridiculous. Wooden movement, unrealistic creature movement, wooden combat. They should make an engine like Turbine's, only with the wide open spaces of swg.
I am back to playing swg but only because my son loves star wars. I tried EQII and Vanguard and they are both swg with different costumes, weapons and less technology. I was like "I may as well play SOE in star wars land".
OK how is that any different then LOTRO with guns? I don't understand. If you get down to it...its nothing more then the game engines that make it different. The only difference between LOTRO and Wow...is one is less a cartoon then the other. One is just a tad bit less blocky and stylized then the other.
Wait a minute...In both EQ2/Vanguard/WOW/LOTRO you put on clothes...not as much clothes as SWG but you have it. In all the games you carry weapons...some may look different but they are all basically the same.
SWG combat (as bad as it is) is nothing compared to the rest of the games. SWG has freaking ships ... who else does? Ah, vanguard perhaps ... I dont know...there are some differences.
Since I started playing the spring after release, I had a lot of cool stuff waiting for me to claim and it's kind of fun since I'm playing with my son, but man that engine sucks the big one. That's what they really need to fix if they want to keep subscribers.
They need to scrap it, learn from Funcom and Turbine, and build SWG II.
Until Conan comes out it's the only game that can hold my interest. I got accused of being an item seller in DDO and they permabanned me without even checking the logs. Til that happened DDO was it... I'm not playing LOTRO because it's the same company and they'll never see another cent of mine.
Hope you know conan will be an xbox game first and pc game second. If your cool with that..then great game.
Seriously the writer should have known better. To produce a fluff peice on a company that is so thoroughly despised by the general mmorpg community. Sony has systematically forged their bad reputation over the last few years, and further more come off as sounding unappologetic about how they have behaved. Remember this company has engaged in all sorts of heinous activities. These are not made up charges either. The whole of the community agrees they were bad things to do. Some can forgive, forget, or ignore. Nobody however can deny them. What was the point of this article it was hardly informative, and obviously inflammatory. For the simple reason that it came off as propoganda, and nothing more then that.
As far as I am concerned; If I can at all help it SOE will not be recieving a dime of my money for any more projects. If they are set out to test peoples "patients" in a social experiment they've done a great job. Otherwise they have failed gamers on multiple levels. I feel that there are plenty of smaller gaming companies who need my money more and have a better product. SOE's PR alone is not worth mine or anyone elses time.
FWIW, you can already send cross-game tells in game and have been able to for quite a while. I enjoyed bugging people I knew in EQ1 from EQ2. As far as I know, you can also send tells to SWG, but I never tried that. IIRC (and my memory is a little fuzzy on this), you may be able to join EQ1 chat channels from EQ2 as well (the user-created type channels, that is). I am pretty sure I joined at least one channel on Xegony (EQ1) while playing on Najena (EQ2) from time to time, but I had to join manually every time, if I recall. Or maybe I am mixed up about that. But I am sure of the crossgame tells.
I am not sure how the unified launcher will change this, but it isn't like it is a brand new thing.
... This is where I draw the line: __________________.
SOE will always be the underdog in the mmorpg business until they seriously change their PR .
I think more people will play Marvel, not only because Marvel is much cooler also because the letters SOE send shivers
down gamers spines.
WoW>swg/Vanguard
Age of Conan>Gods and heroes
Marvel>DC online
And I rather pay $15-20 a month for a solid fun game than $30 for a dozen average/bad games
Its all opinionated. I see lots of people playing and a lot of people having fun on SOE Games. Sometimes there just isnt anything else out there worth playing and we are drawn to the likes of EQ2. Some people still even play Matrix Online...and SOE still supports them. Some people still drag around in EQ1 and you know what...SOE still supports them. Planetside?...an under rated game that a few people play and still gets support from SOE. SWG?...yes people are playing...people are there...regardless of what you say here...and you know what?....Its still getting updates and patches. They are doing some type of work.
People want to complain because they have nothing better to do with their time...they complain about every game because it does not meet their expectations or they downloaded a patch that does not fit their needs. If the developers didn't do what little work you guys say they do...then you would NEVER see even a glimmer of these games to bitch about.
Some people will say "spellborn" sucks. (I do) Some people will say "WoW" is very very played out. Some will say FFXI online really really sucks. (I will say that) Some people say LOTRO is a mini little "WoW." Some people will say DDO was never an MMO. Saga of Ryzom...some will say their sick of these korean mmo knock-offs and Id rather play a single player game on Playstation 3 ... RF online...a possible failure. Archlord?
Now after I said the few bad things about your favorite games (see above) your probably ready to make a big long statement about how game A is better then all of SOE games put together....Sure, great, have fun doing that....but you know what...its all opinion...and if you really think about it....does not really matter....If a fellow is having fun playing SWG....well let him.
SWG is nothing like WoW...how the freak could it be?...Wait....everything is like Wow....Im sorry....SOE and Lucas arts was a doomed partnership...they couldn't get the blocks to fit...we all know that...they know that...stop beating a dead horse...its over...been over for more then a year. Vanguard? Dont know what to say...it needs serious patching....but I would rather play that then FFXI or Wow. That simple. My opinion. How do you know that Gods and Heroes is like Age of Conan? These games are in beta right now and will more then likely change at least 5 times before final release. Conan was build and designed for play on the x-box 360...Gods and Heroes was not..(so far)...big difference. Marvel Online? Only vague information...DC online? Only vague information...you could say they are the same as COH/COV because they have supers in it. Ok ill say it...they are the same because they have supers in it......If i am going that far ..... Fantasy game mmo (insert game here) same as EQ1 or UO or whatever you want to say cause Wow just took common themes and made it colorful and based it on their popular warcraft single player games. Space game mmo (insert game here) same as SWG....Hummm...same as...something...dont know yet...but i bet you can figure it out for me.
You dont want to support SOE? Ok, that is fine...thanks for telling us for the last million times you told us. Who the **** cares anymore. Get a life.
God, I love these forums.
You sir, can go to hell.
SOE killed planetside for me and countless others. Essentially through lack of support (check their own forums for proof).
So much potential wasted. Even Huxley, BF20whatever and the other try hards are yet to reach it's amazingly epic scale.
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SoE hasn't learned yet...someone would expect them, after EQ, EQ2, Vanguard...and even WoW (since they play it and witness it completely)...
Another raiding game...is it that hard to see that raiding is detrimental to these games in the long run?
*cringes away in fear and utter disgust*
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
first of all DC online?
why not jsut play CoH and CoV?
there arent enough super heroes and villians for the mmo world unless lots of people can play as superman batman etc...
All the negativity hehe, well I don't blame you all, but as many know i went back to swg and have been loving it. Seems I am not the only one sence I have plenty of bounties to choose from. Nothing like in the old days for sure, but still plenty there and lots of pvp. So eh, I like it now more then before and that my opinion on it.
As far as the other stuff, gods and heroes I have to say I have been following and looks really sweet, definitly going to try that one out. As far as all other SOE products in current standings i have no intrest because they are to me "past the time". But swg keeps me busy and with the CH class coming back along with new content and more, the new dev team rocks! Anyways, bash away.. you have for over a year now and i doubt that will ever change. Salu!
oh and p.s.
I have to say that most of your sigs are ummm intresting, but it's the people like you that no one wants in their MMO , take a guess why that is? Yea, I am picking a fight again, just like the 'starwars is dead jim' sig guy. Let it go! havn't you heard by now... "its just a game, don't like it move on" you guys act like people like reading your constant repeatable banter that can be found in a thousand threads by the same people over and over and over and over and over and over really matters , well ok it matters to you and the other 15 people who keep complaining, but thats about it or you guys going for the longest complaint in gaming history record? eh bash away again, it's the only thing you know how to do at this point.
"it be getting old jim"
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
I think more people will play Marvel, not only because Marvel is much cooler also because the letters SOE send shivers
down gamers spines.
WoW>swg/Vanguard
Age of Conan>Gods and heroes
Marvel>DC online
And I rather pay $15-20 a month for a solid fun game than $30 for a dozen average/bad games
People want to complain because they have nothing better to do with their time...they complain about every game because it does not meet their expectations or they downloaded a patch that does not fit their needs. If the developers didn't do what little work you guys say they do...then you would NEVER see even a glimmer of these games to bitch about.
Some people will say "spellborn" sucks. (I do) Some people will say "WoW" is very very played out. Some will say FFXI online really really sucks. (I will say that) Some people say LOTRO is a mini little "WoW." Some people will say DDO was never an MMO. Saga of Ryzom...some will say their sick of these korean mmo knock-offs and Id rather play a single player game on Playstation 3 ... RF online...a possible failure.
Now after I said the few bad things about your favorite games (see above) your probably ready to make a big long statement about how game A is better then all of SOE games put together....Sure, great, have fun doing that....but you know what...its all opinion...and if you really think about it....does not really matter....If a fellow is having fun playing SWG....well let him.
SWG is nothing like WoW...how the freak could it be?...Wait....everything is like Wow....Im sorry....SOE and Lucas arts was a doomed partnership...they couldn't get the blocks to fit...we all know that...they know that...stop beating a dead horse...its over...been over for more then a year. Vanguard? Dont know what to say...it needs serious patching....but I would rather play that then FFXI or Wow. That simple. My opinion. How do you know that Gods and Heroes is like Age of Conan? These games are in beta right now and will more then likely change at least 5 times before final release. Conan was build and designed for play on the x-box 360...Gods and Heroes was not..(so far)...big difference. Marvel Online? Only vague information...DC online? Only vague information...you could say they are the same as COH/COV because they have supers in it. Ok ill say it...they are the same because they have supers in it......If i am going that far ..... Fantasy game mmo (insert game here) same as EQ1 or UO or whatever you want to say cause Wow just took common themes and made it colorful and based it on their popular warcraft single player games. Space game mmo (insert game here) same as SWG....Hummm...same as...something...dont know yet...but i bet you can figure it out for me.
You dont want to support SOE? Ok, that is fine...thanks for telling us for the last million times you told us. Who the **** cares anymore. Get a life.
God, I love these forums.
QFT. They all run on the same crappy 5 year old engine. They need to update that thing. You ever jump with a character in a sony game? It's ridiculous. Wooden movement, unrealistic creature movement, wooden combat. They should make an engine like Turbine's, only with the wide open spaces of swg.
I am back to playing swg but only because my son loves star wars. I tried EQII and Vanguard and they are both swg with different costumes, weapons and less technology. I was like "I may as well play SOE in star wars land".
OK how is that any different then LOTRO with guns? I don't understand. If you get down to it...its nothing more then the game engines that make it different. The only difference between LOTRO and Wow...is one is less a cartoon then the other. One is just a tad bit less blocky and stylized then the other.
Wait a minute...In both EQ2/Vanguard/WOW/LOTRO you put on clothes...not as much clothes as SWG but you have it. In all the games you carry weapons...some may look different but they are all basically the same.
SWG combat (as bad as it is) is nothing compared to the rest of the games. SWG has freaking ships ... who else does? Ah, vanguard perhaps ... I dont know...there are some differences.
Since I started playing the spring after release, I had a lot of cool stuff waiting for me to claim and it's kind of fun since I'm playing with my son, but man that engine sucks the big one. That's what they really need to fix if they want to keep subscribers.
They need to scrap it, learn from Funcom and Turbine, and build SWG II.
Until Conan comes out it's the only game that can hold my interest. I got accused of being an item seller in DDO and they permabanned me without even checking the logs
. Til that happened DDO was it... I'm not playing LOTRO because it's the same company and they'll never see another cent of mine.
Hope you know conan will be an xbox game first and pc game second. If your cool with that..then great game.
-Viz
Seriously the writer should have known better. To produce a fluff peice on a company that is so thoroughly despised by the general mmorpg community. Sony has systematically forged their bad reputation over the last few years, and further more come off as sounding unappologetic about how they have behaved. Remember this company has engaged in all sorts of heinous activities. These are not made up charges either. The whole of the community agrees they were bad things to do. Some can forgive, forget, or ignore. Nobody however can deny them. What was the point of this article it was hardly informative, and obviously inflammatory. For the simple reason that it came off as propoganda, and nothing more then that.
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As far as I am concerned; If I can at all help it SOE will not be recieving a dime of my money for any more projects. If they are set out to test peoples "patients" in a social experiment they've done a great job. Otherwise they have failed gamers on multiple levels. I feel that there are plenty of smaller gaming companies who need my money more and have a better product. SOE's PR alone is not worth mine or anyone elses time.
FWIW, you can already send cross-game tells in game and have been able to for quite a while. I enjoyed bugging people I knew in EQ1 from EQ2. As far as I know, you can also send tells to SWG, but I never tried that. IIRC (and my memory is a little fuzzy on this), you may be able to join EQ1 chat channels from EQ2 as well (the user-created type channels, that is). I am pretty sure I joined at least one channel on Xegony (EQ1) while playing on Najena (EQ2) from time to time, but I had to join manually every time, if I recall. Or maybe I am mixed up about that. But I am sure of the crossgame tells.
I am not sure how the unified launcher will change this, but it isn't like it is a brand new thing.
...
This is where I draw the line: __________________.
People want to complain because they have nothing better to do with their time...they complain about every game because it does not meet their expectations or they downloaded a patch that does not fit their needs. If the developers didn't do what little work you guys say they do...then you would NEVER see even a glimmer of these games to bitch about.
Some people will say "spellborn" sucks. (I do) Some people will say "WoW" is very very played out. Some will say FFXI online really really sucks. (I will say that) Some people say LOTRO is a mini little "WoW." Some people will say DDO was never an MMO. Saga of Ryzom...some will say their sick of these korean mmo knock-offs and Id rather play a single player game on Playstation 3 ... RF online...a possible failure.
Now after I said the few bad things about your favorite games (see above) your probably ready to make a big long statement about how game A is better then all of SOE games put together....Sure, great, have fun doing that....but you know what...its all opinion...and if you really think about it....does not really matter....If a fellow is having fun playing SWG....well let him.
SWG is nothing like WoW...how the freak could it be?...Wait....everything is like Wow....Im sorry....SOE and Lucas arts was a doomed partnership...they couldn't get the blocks to fit...we all know that...they know that...stop beating a dead horse...its over...been over for more then a year. Vanguard? Dont know what to say...it needs serious patching....but I would rather play that then FFXI or Wow. That simple. My opinion. How do you know that Gods and Heroes is like Age of Conan? These games are in beta right now and will more then likely change at least 5 times before final release. Conan was build and designed for play on the x-box 360...Gods and Heroes was not..(so far)...big difference. Marvel Online? Only vague information...DC online? Only vague information...you could say they are the same as COH/COV because they have supers in it. Ok ill say it...they are the same because they have supers in it......If i am going that far ..... Fantasy game mmo (insert game here) same as EQ1 or UO or whatever you want to say cause Wow just took common themes and made it colorful and based it on their popular warcraft single player games. Space game mmo (insert game here) same as SWG....Hummm...same as...something...dont know yet...but i bet you can figure it out for me.
You dont want to support SOE? Ok, that is fine...thanks for telling us for the last million times you told us. Who the **** cares anymore. Get a life.
God, I love these forums.
You sir, can go to hell.
SOE killed planetside for me and countless others. Essentially through lack of support (check their own forums for proof).
So much potential wasted. Even Huxley, BF20whatever and the other try hards are yet to reach it's amazingly epic scale.
I can't forgive that.
I...
I just can't.