Spend one week on the littlegreenfootballs.com and you find more then wife beating. The reality of Islam is that they are evil. They talk peace on one hand and kill all those that opposed them on the other. Convert or die. Stop fooling yourselves if you think Islam is the "Religion of Peace". They are not. Stop being a liberal and go find the truth.
Does the phrase "If you're not with us, you are against us" sound familiar? Yeah, it was said by the biggest idiot in the world, who happens to say "God bless America" every 2 minutes. A little narrowly hypocritical, are we?
There is a phrase called 'rule of thumb,' generally it means a given rule, a common rule, something most people should know. It's origins are a bit more sinister. The rule of thumb originally refered to a rod or stick. If it was no thicker than your thumb, it was acceptable to hit your wife with. Now it did not advocate beating her bloody, but in such a time polite English and American society regarded it as a man's duty to bring his wife back in line now and then.
The point is this sort of attitude is not limited to one particular subset of Islam. You'll encounter it in one form or another in just about every country. If you want to hate Muslims who beat their wives that's fine, but don't for a moment believe such behavior is confined to them or strictly the inspiration of Islam.
Islam is something much more complex than simply a religion.
Religiously institutionalized and monitored society is an insanely complex thing.
Actually it's nearly impossible to even discuss in its entirety.
It is still legal to beat your wife with a stick that is smaller diameter than your thumb in the States...
The clash between Muslim views of women comes when they are living in multicultural communities... While I lived in Australia the new influx of Muslims from the Middle East and various other areas coming in as refugees treated non-Muslim women in the same manner as they did in their homeland causing major clashes between the Aussies and Muslim populations. Australians are rather racist, but are gradually learning to become quite multicultural as time passes and lessons are learned from various events. However, that doesn't stop them from beating the ever loving shit out of a Muslim who treats Australian women as meat.
Be nice to the ladies and they will return the favor. The golden rule...
Man! I know what you guys mean, for the love of Jesus, it's only in this country where women are revered and treated with utter respect. Thanks to Jesus, in CHRISTS NAME, there is zero spousal abuse in these here UNITED STATES... PRAISE JESUS!!!!! Women never die at the hands of their husbands or boyfriends here in these PERFECT UNITED STATES!!! Praise our heavenly father!!! PRAISE JESUS!!!!
QFT. No one ever said that spousal abuse isn't rampant in the US. However, the difference is that they are not following some dogma that says it is ok.
Man! I know what you guys mean, for the love of Jesus, it's only in this country where women are revered and treated with utter respect. Thanks to Jesus, in CHRISTS NAME, there is zero spousal abuse in these here UNITED STATES... PRAISE JESUS!!!!! Women never die at the hands of their husbands or boyfriends here in these PERFECT UNITED STATES!!! Praise our heavenly father!!! PRAISE JESUS!!!!
QFT. No one ever said that spousal abuse isn't rampant in the US. However, the difference is that they are not following some dogma that says it is ok.
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Man! I know what you guys mean, for the love of Jesus, it's only in this country where women are revered and treated with utter respect. Thanks to Jesus, in CHRISTS NAME, there is zero spousal abuse in these here UNITED STATES... PRAISE JESUS!!!!! Women never die at the hands of their husbands or boyfriends here in these PERFECT UNITED STATES!!! Praise our heavenly father!!! PRAISE JESUS!!!!
QFT. No one ever said that spousal abuse isn't rampant in the US. However, the difference is that they are not following some dogma that says it is ok.
Oh and aside from what the dude from the video was saying, for all we know he could be the Jim Jones of Islam, would you mind linking the section of the Koran that states this fact about wife beatings? Oh and how often do you read the Koran?
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A thread specifically designed to root out onemuslim from retirement... how clever. Oh how I miss the good old days, theo, modjoe and myself on ventrilo laughing it up as we tore apart the poor helpless souls of mmorpg.com
Those days are gone now, but thank you for the attempt to allow us to relive the past.
Man! I know what you guys mean, for the love of Jesus, it's only in this country where women are revered and treated with utter respect. Thanks to Jesus, in CHRISTS NAME, there is zero spousal abuse in these here UNITED STATES... PRAISE JESUS!!!!! Women never die at the hands of their husbands or boyfriends here in these PERFECT UNITED STATES!!! Praise our heavenly father!!! PRAISE JESUS!!!!
QFT. No one ever said that spousal abuse isn't rampant in the US. However, the difference is that they are not following some dogma that says it is ok.
Praise JESUS!!! JESUS IS LORD!!!! 911! JESUS!!!! JESUS!!!! PRAISE JESUS!!! JESUS!!!! 911, PRAISE JESUS!!!
What you are doing is trolling...please stop
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Man! I know what you guys mean, for the love of Jesus, it's only in this country where women are revered and treated with utter respect. Thanks to Jesus, in CHRISTS NAME, there is zero spousal abuse in these here UNITED STATES... PRAISE JESUS!!!!! Women never die at the hands of their husbands or boyfriends here in these PERFECT UNITED STATES!!! Praise our heavenly father!!! PRAISE JESUS!!!!
QFT. No one ever said that spousal abuse isn't rampant in the US. However, the difference is that they are not following some dogma that says it is ok.
Praise JESUS!!! JESUS IS LORD!!!! 911! JESUS!!!! JESUS!!!! PRAISE JESUS!!! JESUS!!!! 911, PRAISE JESUS!!!
What you are doing is trolling...please stop
PRAISE JESUS!!!! BTW what's that big BROWN SPOT in the middle of your forhead!? I thought you were christian not Sic? PRAISE JESUS!!! BUSH!!! 911!!! Etc... You get the picture.
Another reason why islam belongs in the dark ages and not the 21st century
do i really need to list out all of the stuff in the Koran that these guys follow religiously to the word that happened to be written eons ago? were talking about a religion that still sanctions the stoning of women in areas of the world for alleged adultry for crying out loud... yeah pretty modern arnt they... islam was founded about 599 years after Christianity
A Brief History of Islam
by Grady L. Davis, M.Div., Ph.D.
Former Chairman of Directed Individualized Studies
Mohammad was born in Arabia in the city of Mecca in 570 CE. He came from a prominent and highly respected family. When he was 25 he married a wealthy widow named Khadija. Their marriage was a happy one although only one of their children, Fatima, lived to maturity. Mohammad spent most of his time in solitary meditation. He began to have many disturbing visions. Once he believed he saw the angel Gabriel. Mohammad said that the angel gave him the following command:
“Recite, in the name of the Lord who has created,
Created man from clots of blood,
Recite, seeing that the Lord is the most generous,
Who has taught by the pen,
Taught man what he did not know.”
The Arabic word for “recite” is Qur’an (often called Koran), meaning the reciting or the reading. Thus, the Qur’an, the sacred book of the Muslims, is the “reciting” of “revelations” given to Mohammad. Over a period of 22 years, Mohammad reported many other revelations. Encouraged by his wife, he began to preach in the streets and market places of Mecca. Mohammad never claimed to be divine, but insisted that Allah had called him to be a prophet.
Mohammad hated the idolatry and the immorality of the Arabs who lived in Mecca or came there to trade their goods. He was met with bitter opposition, but for many years his influential uncle, Abu Talib, was able to protect him.
When both Khadija and Abu Talib died in 620 CE, plots were hatched to kill Mohammad and his followers. Finally, on July 16, 622, Mohammad was forced to flee to Medina, a friendlier city to the north. This flight, called the hegira, marks the beginning of Islam. The Muslim calendar starts with this date, and the years are counted from “A.H.” meaning “the year of the hegira.” Medina, which is the city’s current name, was first named Madinat an Nabi (City of the Prophet), in honor of Mohammad. Mohammad became the religious and political leader of the city.
Soon the Meccans organized an army to destroy Mohammad and his followers. The fighting ended in 630 with Islam forces triumphant. Mohammad entered Mecca. He destroyed every idol in the Kaaba, the main temple, except the Black Stone, a sacred meteorite enshrined there.
Mohammad then declared the Kaaba to be the most holy shrine in Islam. Since that time it has been the spot toward which all devout Muslims direct their prayers.
During the next two years, Mohammad strengthened his position as the leading prophet and ruler of Arabia. He united the tribes into a vast army to conquer the world for Allah. His death in 632 A.D. did not lessen the fervor of his followers. They carried their faith across Asia, Africa, even into Europe—and to this day the growth of Islam has not ended.
Islam is the correct name for the religion often incorrectly called Mohammedanism. The word “Islam” means "submission" (to Allah, the god of Mohammad who founded this religion). The members call themselves Muslims (Moslems), meaning “those who submit.”
Please be as accurate as possible when giving assertions of fact. Thanks.
Another reason why islam belongs in the dark ages and not the 21st century
So does christianity.
Yup religeon is outdated. At least islam sticts to thier god said in the first place instead of re-defining it like christianity to fit into todays society "Oh god you don't mind if we edit what you said a tad do you? We'll take no response as a yes."
Oh yeah cause thenthats fair. Not like men are physically stronger or anything. While you making it ok to beat weaker parts of your family why not target your children also?
Soon the Meccans organized an army to destroy Mohammad and his followers. The fighting ended in 630 with Islam forces triumphant. Mohammad entered Mecca. He destroyed every idol in the Kaaba, the main temple, except the Black Stone, a sacred meteorite enshrined there.
Wow. That is a biased Islamic version if I have ever read one. The truth that what happened was that the Meccans refused Mohammad's "teachings" and threw him out. It was actually Mohammad who formed the army, returned to Mecca and gave the "option" to convert or die.
Soon the Meccans organized an army to destroy Mohammad and his followers. The fighting ended in 630 with Islam forces triumphant. Mohammad entered Mecca. He destroyed every idol in the Kaaba, the main temple, except the Black Stone, a sacred meteorite enshrined there.
Wow. That is a biased Islamic version if I have ever read one. The truth that what happened was that the Meccans refused Mohammad's "teachings" and threw him out. It was actually Mohammad who formed the army, returned to Mecca and gave the "option" to convert or die. I agree, that is the jewish version of events in mecca. If you want the islamic view this link is it. www.islamvision.org/ConquestofMecca.asp
As you can see it is different from the jewish version. But im not going to post the Islamic version as it is extremely long.
Soon the Meccans organized an army to destroy Mohammad and his followers. The fighting ended in 630 with Islam forces triumphant. Mohammad entered Mecca. He destroyed every idol in the Kaaba, the main temple, except the Black Stone, a sacred meteorite enshrined there.
Wow. That is a biased Islamic version if I have ever read one. The truth that what happened was that the Meccans refused Mohammad's "teachings" and threw him out. It was actually Mohammad who formed the army, returned to Mecca and gave the "option" to convert or die.
Which is why my question to Muslims is always this, if yours is a religion of peace, how do you explain your prophet's actions?
Soon the Meccans organized an army to destroy Mohammad and his followers. The fighting ended in 630 with Islam forces triumphant. Mohammad entered Mecca. He destroyed every idol in the Kaaba, the main temple, except the Black Stone, a sacred meteorite enshrined there.
Wow. That is a biased Islamic version if I have ever read one. The truth that what happened was that the Meccans refused Mohammad's "teachings" and threw him out. It was actually Mohammad who formed the army, returned to Mecca and gave the "option" to convert or die.
Which is why my question to Muslims is always this, if yours is a religion of peace, how do you explain your prophet's actions? The same way you explain free will.
Oh yeah cause thenthats fair. Not like men are physically stronger or anything. While you making it ok to beat weaker parts of your family why not target your children also?
It is not hat hard for a woman to hurt a man. We have one spot where if we are hit we are out for a good 30 minutes. Face it, females are your equals.
Oh yeah cause thenthats fair. Not like men are physically stronger or anything. While you making it ok to beat weaker parts of your family why not target your children also?
It is not hat hard for a woman to hurt a man. We have one spot where if we are hit we are out for a good 30 minutes. Face it, females are your equals.Hmm good planning. Next time I plan on hitting a woman i'll wear a cup. Thanks! hehe
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That's not the Jewish version, that's history. The same Mohammand that raped his child bride, nine years old I believe.
I've just read the same thing in a book today. her name was Aise(or Aishe, Aisha). but there are two ways this story may have taken place:
First they say Muhammed (btw he was 49 at the time) saw her and literally took her from the play ground when she was 6 and waited untill she was 9 to take her as his wife (of course the word "rape" is never used in muslim texts).
The thing is such information is from writings that are 1500 years old. so such information are hardly accurate. because they have been changed by many people so that they could manipulate the society. (just like the texts about christianity and other ancient writings which are not the originals. which includes the Koran, the Bible etc.)
There is also another view which says Ayse was about 17-18 when she married Muhammed. What could have happened is that the Muslims after Muhammed changed the story as if Ayse was 9 so that they could justify their actions if they wanted to marry very young girls. Then they would say look at Muhammed, if he did it then it is OK to do it.
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The point is this sort of attitude is not limited to one particular subset of Islam. You'll encounter it in one form or another in just about every country. If you want to hate Muslims who beat their wives that's fine, but don't for a moment believe such behavior is confined to them or strictly the inspiration of Islam.
Religiously institutionalized and monitored society is an insanely complex thing.
Actually it's nearly impossible to even discuss in its entirety.
It is still legal to beat your wife with a stick that is smaller diameter than your thumb in the States...
The clash between Muslim views of women comes when they are living in multicultural communities... While I lived in Australia the new influx of Muslims from the Middle East and various other areas coming in as refugees treated non-Muslim women in the same manner as they did in their homeland causing major clashes between the Aussies and Muslim populations. Australians are rather racist, but are gradually learning to become quite multicultural as time passes and lessons are learned from various events. However, that doesn't stop them from beating the ever loving shit out of a Muslim who treats Australian women as meat.
Be nice to the ladies and they will return the favor. The golden rule...
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Praise JESUS!!! JESUS IS LORD!!!! 911! JESUS!!!! JESUS!!!! PRAISE JESUS!!! JESUS!!!! 911, PRAISE JESUS!!!
Oh and aside from what the dude from the video was saying, for all we know he could be the Jim Jones of Islam, would you mind linking the section of the Koran that states this fact about wife beatings? Oh and how often do you read the Koran?
Almost forgot... 911!!! Jesus!!! George W. Bush Jesus!!! 911!!! PRAISE JESUS!!! 911!!! BUSH!!! JESUS!!!!
Those days are gone now, but thank you for the attempt to allow us to relive the past.
Praise JESUS!!! JESUS IS LORD!!!! 911! JESUS!!!! JESUS!!!! PRAISE JESUS!!! JESUS!!!! 911, PRAISE JESUS!!!
What you are doing is trolling...please stop
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Praise JESUS!!! JESUS IS LORD!!!! 911! JESUS!!!! JESUS!!!! PRAISE JESUS!!! JESUS!!!! 911, PRAISE JESUS!!!
What you are doing is trolling...please stop
PRAISE JESUS!!!! BTW what's that big BROWN SPOT in the middle of your forhead!? I thought you were christian not Sic? PRAISE JESUS!!! BUSH!!! 911!!! Etc... You get the picture.
do i really need to list out all of the stuff in the Koran that these guys follow religiously to the word that happened to be written eons ago? were talking about a religion that still sanctions the stoning of women in areas of the world for alleged adultry for crying out loud... yeah pretty modern arnt they...
A Brief History of Islam
by Grady L. Davis, M.Div., Ph.D.
Former Chairman of Directed Individualized Studies
Golden State School of Theology, Oakland, CA ©1983,2003,2004
Mohammad was born in Arabia in the city of Mecca in 570 CE. He came from a prominent and highly respected family. When he was 25 he married a wealthy widow named Khadija. Their marriage was a happy one although only one of their children, Fatima, lived to maturity. Mohammad spent most of his time in solitary meditation. He began to have many disturbing visions. Once he believed he saw the angel Gabriel. Mohammad said that the angel gave him the following command:
The Arabic word for “recite” is Qur’an (often called Koran), meaning the reciting or the reading. Thus, the Qur’an, the sacred book of the Muslims, is the “reciting” of “revelations” given to Mohammad. Over a period of 22 years, Mohammad reported many other revelations. Encouraged by his wife, he began to preach in the streets and market places of Mecca. Mohammad never claimed to be divine, but insisted that Allah had called him to be a prophet.
Mohammad hated the idolatry and the immorality of the Arabs who lived in Mecca or came there to trade their goods. He was met with bitter opposition, but for many years his influential uncle, Abu Talib, was able to protect him.
When both Khadija and Abu Talib died in 620 CE, plots were hatched to kill Mohammad and his followers. Finally, on July 16, 622, Mohammad was forced to flee to Medina, a friendlier city to the north. This flight, called the hegira, marks the beginning of Islam. The Muslim calendar starts with this date, and the years are counted from “A.H.” meaning “the year of the hegira.” Medina, which is the city’s current name, was first named Madinat an Nabi (City of the Prophet), in honor of Mohammad. Mohammad became the religious and political leader of the city.
Soon the Meccans organized an army to destroy Mohammad and his followers. The fighting ended in 630 with Islam forces triumphant. Mohammad entered Mecca. He destroyed every idol in the Kaaba, the main temple, except the Black Stone, a sacred meteorite enshrined there.
Mohammad then declared the Kaaba to be the most holy shrine in Islam. Since that time it has been the spot toward which all devout Muslims direct their prayers.
During the next two years, Mohammad strengthened his position as the leading prophet and ruler of Arabia. He united the tribes into a vast army to conquer the world for Allah. His death in 632 A.D. did not lessen the fervor of his followers. They carried their faith across Asia, Africa, even into Europe—and to this day the growth of Islam has not ended.
Islam is the correct name for the religion often incorrectly called Mohammedanism. The word “Islam” means "submission" (to Allah, the god of Mohammad who founded this religion). The members call themselves Muslims (Moslems), meaning “those who submit.”
Please be as accurate as possible when giving assertions of fact. Thanks.
Yup religeon is outdated. At least islam sticts to thier god said in the first place instead of re-defining it like christianity to fit into todays society "Oh god you don't mind if we edit what you said a tad do you? We'll take no response as a yes."
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Oh yeah cause thenthats fair. Not like men are physically stronger or anything. While you making it ok to beat weaker parts of your family why not target your children also?
My blog:
As you can see it is different from the jewish version. But im not going to post the Islamic version as it is extremely long.
Which is why my question to Muslims is always this, if yours is a religion of peace, how do you explain your prophet's actions?
Which is why my question to Muslims is always this, if yours is a religion of peace, how do you explain your prophet's actions? The same way you explain free will.
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It is not hat hard for a woman to hurt a man. We have one spot where if we are hit we are out for a good 30 minutes. Face it, females are your equals.Oh yeah cause thenthats fair. Not like men are physically stronger or anything. While you making it ok to beat weaker parts of your family why not target your children also?
It is not hat hard for a woman to hurt a man. We have one spot where if we are hit we are out for a good 30 minutes. Face it, females are your equals.Hmm good planning. Next time I plan on hitting a woman i'll wear a cup. Thanks! heheOh yeah cause thenthats fair. Not like men are physically stronger or anything. While you making it ok to beat weaker parts of your family why not target your children also?
______________________________
"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
First they say Muhammed (btw he was 49 at the time) saw her and literally took her from the play ground when she was 6 and waited untill she was 9 to take her as his wife (of course the word "rape" is never used in muslim texts).
The thing is such information is from writings that are 1500 years old. so such information are hardly accurate. because they have been changed by many people so that they could manipulate the society. (just like the texts about christianity and other ancient writings which are not the originals. which includes the Koran, the Bible etc.)
There is also another view which says Ayse was about 17-18 when she married Muhammed. What could have happened is that the Muslims after Muhammed changed the story as if Ayse was 9 so that they could justify their actions if they wanted to marry very young girls. Then they would say look at Muhammed, if he did it then it is OK to do it.
anyway, It is sick both ways.