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Ron Paul smeared for quoting 9-11 Commission Report
reavo
Member Posts: 2,173
Ron Paul simply quotes the 9-11 Commissions Report and is attacked. Not only is he attacked, but there is now an attempt to ban him from the debates for his quoting the report.
This makes no sense to me.
youtube.com/watch
Are these people seriously so naive to think that our over involvement in foreign affairs is not going to have repercussions at some point? Who knows how far we can push people and deny them their sovereignty before they snap. How long would it take someones involvement in our personal affairs before American's retaliated? I think not long at all.
If these people want to live backward ass lives, then let them. Deny them involvement in the affairs of civilized nations and let it be. But instead we keep poking at a hornets nest while we neglect our own affairs.
Did anyone see the recent immigration bill that is going up for vote? This is a President and Congress involved in the protection of the American people???? And that's the kind of garbage we get to protect our borders? I think we've been tricked and had our attention diverted enough by these two parties, have we not?!
So, a stand up guy like Ron Paul comes along with a new idea and look at how he is treated. Even if you are not a Ron Paul supporter, a person taking a stand and being treated this way should make everyone who believes in the American system outraged.
This makes no sense to me.
youtube.com/watch
Are these people seriously so naive to think that our over involvement in foreign affairs is not going to have repercussions at some point? Who knows how far we can push people and deny them their sovereignty before they snap. How long would it take someones involvement in our personal affairs before American's retaliated? I think not long at all.
If these people want to live backward ass lives, then let them. Deny them involvement in the affairs of civilized nations and let it be. But instead we keep poking at a hornets nest while we neglect our own affairs.
Did anyone see the recent immigration bill that is going up for vote? This is a President and Congress involved in the protection of the American people???? And that's the kind of garbage we get to protect our borders? I think we've been tricked and had our attention diverted enough by these two parties, have we not?!
So, a stand up guy like Ron Paul comes along with a new idea and look at how he is treated. Even if you are not a Ron Paul supporter, a person taking a stand and being treated this way should make everyone who believes in the American system outraged.
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Just look at how bad the Immigration bill they are trying to pass stinks of corruption! They want an influx of even more cheap labor plain and simple, so the big money companies can pay less in wages and benefits to the masses of cheap labor that will flood after they pass the amnesty in disguise bill. I almost think these powers that run America want to turn it into a third world country they way they are going and I predict a huge drop in the dollar value in the next 3 years because of all the devaluation of the American way. Countries are switching from the petro dollar to euros and that is going to cause the dollar to drop as well so I forsee a depression happening soon because of what your government is doing and has done.
{(RIP)} SWG
It's our duty to disagree with policy when policy is wrong. It's our government, we are not subjects of the king and his cronies!
Did you see Blitzer go after him? He implies to the public that Ron's position on 9/11 is that it was caused from non-threatening surveillance missions. Gimme a break.
You're going to see more of this. It's no secret that most mainstream media is lib, and I think they see Paul as another Ralph Nader. They still blame him for Gore's loss in 2000, and don't want to see Ron split the vote in 08. In a way, I think their intentions are good enough, but they are no better than the administration if they continue down this path.
I hate to drag you back to reality Reavo, but Ron Paul was already a long shot candidate BEFORE he said what he did about 9/11...that being that we were attacked because of our involvement in the middle east. Now whether you agree with that sentiment or not, I would think that a reasonable person would see that a long shot candidate making such statements completely dashes his hopes of getting elected. People aren't going to vote for the guy if they think HE thinks that the United States brought 9/11 upon itself. If you havn't seen the statement, go back and watch the videos that AlexaMore posted a week or so ago, I believe it's the top video titled something to the effect of "Giuliani and Ron Paul argue"
A long shot candidate can't make comments like that and hope to get elected, Ron Paul stands no chance of winning this election.
By the way, I had no opinion of Ron Paul one way or the other until I saw that debate...It wasn't like I watched the thing looking for reasons to dislike Ron Paul.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
And, I also think that Ron Paul speaks for a lot of American's when he says the things he says.
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It's our duty to disagree with policy when policy is wrong. It's our government, we are not subjects of the king and his cronies! Thats a good post man, I agree and I think the ones who really believed Bush and his policies were good in the beginning are really going to feel like Idiots when its all said and done. Some are realizing this but imo its to late and we are just going to have to see what grand finale this administration has planned to show once and for all whose interests they have in mind.
Like I said earlier about countries switching from the American petro-dollar to euros and the massive debt the USA has to places like China and Japan is going to collapse the economy of the USA. I think any major disaster like a pandemic, fuel shortage,food shortage (bees are dying!), deadly weather or a nuclear terrorist attack will show just how weak G.W Bush has left America after 911 when he was supposed to make it stronger and better liked worldwide. I am scared to wonder where America will be in 3-5 years because of all this? I am a betting man though and I will bet people remember this current American administration as the worst to ever have held office in the time when good leadership was needed the most!
{(RIP)} SWG
And, I also think that Ron Paul speaks for a lot of American's when he says the things he says.
I'm not talking about that video, I stated exactly which video I was talking about. So don't try to put in little snide remarks about my conservative reality vs your reality if you can't even take the time to friggen comprehend what I've clearly written.
He may very well speak for a lot of Americans, all I'm saying is that when a long shot candidate like Ron Paul starts saying things that people are going to be averse to (America brought 9/11 on itself, yes, he did indeed say what amounted to that, watch the video that i referenced in AlexaMore's post) they cannot expect to be elected. Ron Paul has ruined any chance that he had.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
How about this one...
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www.youtube.com/watch
www.youtube.com/watch
Actually you're wrong, this is the new anthem....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
www.youtube.com/watch
Actually you're wrong, this is the new anthem....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
Hey, man. Rick Astley is cool!I miss the 80's. That was some good times. I feel sorry for the kids and the trash they have to deal with these days. I listen to the music they have on their IPods sometimes and feel like crying. Such garbage, and they don't even know any better.
www.youtube.com/watch
Actually you're wrong, this is the new anthem....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
Hey, man. Rick Astley is cool!I miss the 80's. That was some good times. I feel sorry for the kids and the trash they have to deal with these days. I listen to the music they have on their IPods sometimes and feel like crying. Such garbage, and they don't even know any better.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
www.youtube.com/watch
Actually you're wrong, this is the new anthem....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
Hey, man. Rick Astley is cool!I miss the 80's. That was some good times. I feel sorry for the kids and the trash they have to deal with these days. I listen to the music they have on their IPods sometimes and feel like crying. Such garbage, and they don't even know any better.
I'm not allowed to go there. My doctor warned me that it could effect my cognitive abilities and I could lose my job or something.
Sorry man.
And, I also think that Ron Paul speaks for a lot of American's when he says the things he says.
I'm not talking about that video, I stated exactly which video I was talking about. So don't try to put in little snide remarks about my conservative reality vs your reality if you can't even take the time to friggen comprehend what I've clearly written.
He may very well speak for a lot of Americans, all I'm saying is that when a long shot candidate like Ron Paul starts saying things that people are going to be averse to (America inadvertently brought 9/11 on itself, yes, he did indeed say what amounted to that, watch the video that i referenced in AlexaMore's post) they cannot expect to be elected. Ron Paul has ruined any chance that he had.
Actually he's been getting tons of exposure on TV, radio and on the internet and a lot of it is great. It's better to get exposure than to get none at all, so one needs controversy. The consensus now is that Rudy Giuliani has experienced, first hand, a little thing called blowback. I've been following Ron Paul very very closely. He spoke the truth that day and since then many people have been amazed by him. Ron Paul actually increased his chances thanks to Rudy. Ron Paul said his donations shot up by leaps and bounds over night when that debate happened. People are waking up.______________________________
"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
eew you put the accent mark in and everything...I try not to do the French language that service
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
eew you put the accent mark in and everything...I try not to do the French language that service The accent mark makes it classy!
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
I dont try at all...
I dont try at all...
Indeed...
I punctuate and all that good stuff simply for readability purposes...but accent marks and umlauts get left out.
haha that was clever of me.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Saul Anuzis was the leading man trying to ban Ron Paul from the debates based on what he percieved Ron was saying during the debates. Of course the RNC and the Michigan GOP got hammered by hundreds and hundreds of calls, emails, and faxes and soon Saul realized how stupid he was and retracted the petition to ban him. Here is his apology, dated for may 19th (today):
Ron Paul's supporters have asked me to make a "correction". I replayed the tape and what he actually said versus what many (including myself) perceived he said is different. Here is an excerpt from their letter:
Open Letter to Mr. Saul Anuzis
Posted by Daniel McAdams at May 18, 2007 09:19 PM
Mr. Anuzis:
You wrote on the blog of the Michigan Republican Party today as your explanation for giving up your campaign to have Dr. Ron Paul silenced from future Republican debates:
"... my initial response and what prompted me to action were the Congressman’s comments blaming America for 9-11..."
...I would advise you to edit your above statement on the Michigan Republican Party website to remove the slanderous suggestion that Ron Paul blames America for 9/11.
OK...correction:
On the post election session with Sean Hannity Ron Paul expanded on his position and said "America didn't do anything but policies over many years...".
I and many others "perceived" his statement during the debate to be blaming "America"...what he was saying is American "policies" over the years created and/or contributed to this situation.
I will make a correction on my orginal blog as well.
I stand corrected.
http://migop.blogs.com/
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
While I do agree with what Ron Paul said at the debate, I don't think he's a "stand-up guy," as you put it...and this is why: www.chron.com/content/chronicle/aol-metropolitan/96/05/23/paul.html
My "favorite" excerpts:
"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such." So white, Asian, and Hispanic kids in gangs aren't dangerous, but we are? Gotcha...
"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action." So the only sensible political opinions are those that coincide with his? Nevermind that he doesn't cite where these polls came from.
"...we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers." No comment...
So, for me, the bottomline is fuck this dude
Achiever 60.00%
Explorer 33.33%
Killer 80.00%
Socializer 26.67%
According to this survey, I'm an item-whoring ganker. I guess I should have stuck with WoW then...lmao.