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DAOC nerfed into oblivion

MagnasMagnas Member UncommonPosts: 21

 A game with a great variety of classes has slowly been and is neing nerfed till there will be nothing but casters and pure tanks and pure healers.

People have cried how archers are now overpowered so thier getting the nerfbat. Yes they can kill a caster in 2-3 shot but casters have been doing that to classes for years.

People have cried after losing a 1 on 1 battle to a class that can cast HOTS and now thier getting nerfed to hell. If your dumb enough to engage a Valk, Friar,Warden or mauler 1 on 1 ya probably deserve to die. And speccing for the HOTS for group play is severly hampered now.

Shrooms and Monster rezzes stopped our siege. Lets nerf them to uselessness. Nevermind that is exactly the type of situation they were designed for.

So many classes have been nerfed I dont have the energy to list them.

Truth is you will never achieve game balance in any game. Some classes will always be more powerful in certian situations or at certian levels as others. If IM playing my stealther I dont try and perf a Valk, I wait for a class I know I have a better chance with. If I see a monster rez I stun it, root it or move away till it dies. Shroom patch? Mez it nuke it whatever dont run thru it.

This once great game, with more variety in classes than anything else out there. This game that had the best RVR of any game Ive ever played. Has slowly dwindled in numbers till they only thing left are the whiney little 's on the VN boards that cry to get everything nerfed except the base classes. Tanks,Casters and Healers.

Ive played DAOC since it was released and trully love this game over anything else Ive ever played. And Ive been around since MUDs(yea Im old as dirt) but the heavy handed nerf bat of Mythic has finally done it for me and IM done. Thanks for letting me rant.

Magnas

John P Cooper

Comments

  • GonodilGonodil Member Posts: 335

    They nerfed your animist/warden/vamp/ranger? boo hoo

     

    Anyone that doesn't think animist nerf was fully justified and made the game better for everyone, has never actualy played outside of hibernia

  • MagnasMagnas Member UncommonPosts: 21

    See that the type of response Id expect. First I dont play Hib, never have. Ive played Alb and Mid since release.

    Second most of my main chars were not in that list except for my Tic.

    Everytime someone tries to make a point someone like you comes along and makes the typical, ooo cry more response. But while your trying to make a sarcastic response the truth is that many classes have been unfairly nerfed. Personally I hate animists with a passion and everything else in the stun,nuke nuke world of Hibernia. But its the game as a whole that has been suffering from the sweeping class changes they have been making.  This has been shown by the decline in numbers on servers for a long time. I know other things factor into this such as TOA and buffbots, non changing loot tables etc etc.

    Maybe animist adjustments were needed, but can you honestly state that all the recent nerfs are? Or lemme guess, you play one of those base classes?

    John P Cooper

  • GonodilGonodil Member Posts: 335

    I play an armsman and wizard mainly....i had a 50 scout before archery changes. (also have cabalist, merc, inf, reaver, sorc, pally, cleric)

    My armsman keeps me plenty entertained now, love the changes made to them.

    Valk nerfs were needed, as we all the HoT nerfs...maybe not friar so much, since they only get one group HoT, not 2 that stack like the other classes.

    Valks added wayyy to much healing to mid groups while still being very dangerous melee classes, just isn't balanced.

    Vamp nerf totaly justified.

    Tic nerf is overboard, now MR is useless.

     

    I'd rather have them making changes than let one realm be the most powerful for years, causing another population bandwagon jump.

  • WerppaWerppa Member Posts: 211

    I'm worried about tic nerf since it was usually like "let's take him to group cos he has monster rezz" so it might be hard to find a group now. In the other hand, I've always found a group with my tic and people expect me to do something else than monster rezz.

    To the topic now. IMO, animist nerf was right thing to do and valk and vamp nerfs are justifiable too. I've played both of them and they need nerfing.

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  • RavkeenRavkeen Member UncommonPosts: 310
    Mythic did some very dumb nerfs and they just keep getting better and better it started with the warlock and the banshee, cont. with the duel wield classes where now many rr 8 nightshade can't even beat a rr 2 reaver cause of the stupid block rate I can't even get one chain off to save my life. Vamps was nerf when they where made now they are nerfing them again what’s the point of a vamp now a vamp was always useless now they made them even more useless they can't use power pots or anything with power only way they can get power is to attack someone if they can't hit anyone they can't get power to do anything well they can't fight anyone with a shield cause of the block rate that can't fight anyone really duel wield cause of the evade rate and a assassin can beat  a vamp to sleep. Any class can beat a vamp to sleep. Mythic now made this game to where if your not a Tank /w shield or Caster you are useless. Where now I really do think I'm done with this game cause now my nightshade is so useless that the only way I can survive is stealth zerg or fight other sealthers. Because fighting anything else solo is a useless fight cause you will not win unless its a caster and how many casters run around solo maybe 2%. Now I'm really not looking forward to Warhammer because Mythic going to do the same thing they did to DAOC kill the game with zerfs to toon they play against in the game. To Everyone that didn't know Mythic do play there game almost everyone at Mythic play Albs that’s why that realm haven’t seen a nerf. 

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  • BigfootBigfoot Member Posts: 364
    Animist nerf was definitely needed.  Now if only they can fix the LOS checks.  It sucked getting in the sight of 20 shrooms, hide behind a wall, and still get nuked to death out of LOS.



    Monster Rez nerf was needed, because Tics are so overpowered...I'm kidding.



    Anything with a shield should not get HoT.



    And Ravkeen, that whole "Mythic plays *insert realm*" is so dumb :P lol  People have been saying "Mythic plays Hib" for years.  I mean, why else would a high dmg nuker get a BASELINE stun?

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  • GonodilGonodil Member Posts: 335
    Originally posted by Ravkeen


    Mythic did some very dumb nerfs and they just keep getting better and better it started with the warlock and the banshee, cont. with the duel wield classes where now many rr 8 nightshade can't even beat a rr 2 reaver cause of the stupid block rate I can't even get one chain off to save my life. Vamps was nerf when they where made now they are nerfing them again what’s the point of a vamp now a vamp was always useless now they made them even more useless they can't use power pots or anything with power only way they can get power is to attack someone if they can't hit anyone they can't get power to do anything well they can't fight anyone with a shield cause of the block rate that can't fight anyone really duel wield cause of the evade rate and a assassin can beat  a vamp to sleep. Any class can beat a vamp to sleep. Mythic now made this game to where if your not a Tank /w shield or Caster you are useless. Where now I really do think I'm done with this game cause now my nightshade is so useless that the only way I can survive is stealth zerg or fight other sealthers. Because fighting anything else solo is a useless fight cause you will not win unless its a caster and how many casters run around solo maybe 2%. Now I'm really not looking forward to Warhammer because Mythic going to do the same thing they did to DAOC kill the game with zerfs to toon they play against in the game. To Everyone that didn't know Mythic do play there game almost everyone at Mythic play Albs that’s why that realm haven’t seen a nerf. 



    Wooohoo, another easymode hib gone!

    If you think vamps cant beat an assassin or DW class, maybe you should learn how to play one instead of just claw spamming? And you cannot beat a shield tank? One melee class that a vamp cannot beat...how sad!

    And awww, i feel so sad that your leather wearing assassin cannon beat a chain wearing shield tank anymore....realy, i WEEP!

     

    Also, my polearmsman with ZERO shield skill works realy well, you pathetic whiner

  • SWGLoverSWGLover Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 539

    Mythic has been nerfing classes for four years now, that's definately old news.

     

    But even with the nerfs I'd still be playing it if there were more people in-game.

    An empty game is no fun.   

     

     

  • SpikeXSpikeX Member UncommonPosts: 76
    First off I'm currently playing an archer on classic server.  Secondly, this so called nerf isn't even really a nerf.  Basically it will affect archers very minimally.  Some people just like to cry.  DAOC is a great game and the classic cluster is VERY populated.  So if you want to play DAOC roll classic I'm having a blast there.
  • RavkeenRavkeen Member UncommonPosts: 310
    Originally posted by Gonodil

    Originally posted by Ravkeen


    Mythic did some very dumb nerfs and they just keep getting better and better it started with the warlock and the banshee, cont. with the duel wield classes where now many rr 8 nightshade can't even beat a rr 2 reaver cause of the stupid block rate I can't even get one chain off to save my life. Vamps was nerf when they where made now they are nerfing them again what’s the point of a vamp now a vamp was always useless now they made them even more useless they can't use power pots or anything with power only way they can get power is to attack someone if they can't hit anyone they can't get power to do anything well they can't fight anyone with a shield cause of the block rate that can't fight anyone really duel wield cause of the evade rate and a assassin can beat  a vamp to sleep. Any class can beat a vamp to sleep. Mythic now made this game to where if your not a Tank /w shield or Caster you are useless. Where now I really do think I'm done with this game cause now my nightshade is so useless that the only way I can survive is stealth zerg or fight other sealthers. Because fighting anything else solo is a useless fight cause you will not win unless its a caster and how many casters run around solo maybe 2%. Now I'm really not looking forward to Warhammer because Mythic going to do the same thing they did to DAOC kill the game with zerfs to toon they play against in the game. To Everyone that didn't know Mythic do play there game almost everyone at Mythic play Albs that’s why that realm haven’t seen a nerf. 



    Wooohoo, another easymode hib gone!

    If you think vamps cant beat an assassin or DW class, maybe you should learn how to play one instead of just claw spamming? And you cannot beat a shield tank? One melee class that a vamp cannot beat...how sad!

    And awww, i feel so sad that your leather wearing assassin cannon beat a chain wearing shield tank anymore....realy, i WEEP!

     

    Also, my polearmsman with ZERO shield skill works realy well, you pathetic whiner

     

    Ok one I'm not whining cause I just adept and change what I got to. To make my toon better and if I can't beat a shield tank boo hoo I can always just zerg his a** problem solved.  I played a vamp and I didn't just claw claw all damn day I don't roll like that but if you can't hit anything even if you have 2148 weapon skill that mean hint hint fool you will not have any power to do anything thats why my friar beat vamp because they can't hit me. But if I can't solo anymore on my nightshade because of the big nerf change I will just stealth zerg it up. But I'm glad you weep for me lol cause I'm not. peace

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  • TolwynnTolwynn Member Posts: 240

     

     

    /wave mag :)

     

     

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  • JulianDracosJulianDracos Member UncommonPosts: 1,528
    I do not like nerfs, but I am giving them the benefit of the doubt because I think they are reworking the game to be viable with a lower population and to return to the pre ToA roots of being a grouped based game.



    Here is what is known:



    1.  NF is way too big and people have many complaints about it.  This summer a NNF will be released - my guess is that things will be much smaller.



    2.  Siege has been very difficult since NF and as the population gets smaller things only get worse.



    3.  Many of the players still playing like the fast action and being in groups that you find fighting in the Lab.



    4.  ToA is being nerfed to be done by a group.



    5.  New free content is being added for solo/group.



    So I think the adjustments are not based solely on whiners, but on a new vision of the game and these changes are necessary.  I think they are laying the foundation for the new frontier. 
  • Nikoz78Nikoz78 Member UncommonPosts: 910


    Originally posted by Magnas
    Im old as dirt

    42 is old?

    I thought "40" was the new "20!"

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    I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.

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