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World of Warcraft: Blizzard Files Lawsuit on Gold Seller

SzarkSzark News ManagerMember Posts: 4,420


Blizzard has announced on their forums that they will be taking legal action against Peons4hire, a gold selling organization well known to many World of Warcraft players for their obnoxious spamming and in-game advertising.

As many of you know, the latest content patch, along with many great new content additions, contains technical counter-measures designed to combat in-game gold spamming. Our efforts to reduce in-game abuse and create a fun, safe environment for everyone are never-ending.

With that said, we felt that it was important to share with the community just how serious we are in our efforts to combat this type of abuse. Blizzard has filed a federal lawsuit against the operators of Peons4hire, a popular gold-selling organization which many of you have no doubt seen advertised. As part of the lawsuit, the operators of Peons4hire have been asked to immediately cease all in-game spamming efforts by all entities and websites under their control.

If this organization refuses to act accordingly, further legal action will be taken. We'll be sure to keep you posted on the progress of this topic.

Read the thread on the WoW forums.

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  • PerryPantherPerryPanther Member Posts: 149
    now after they do that they need to go after all of them for selling gold ...... once blizzard wins all games like soe etc will do the same
  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    Sue the sellers, ban the lame cheaters!  Thumbs up for Blizzard.

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  • LemacsLemacs Member UncommonPosts: 121

    My Option:

    They are not going to crap to these people; they did this just to appease the masses (the people that complain). You watch these people will still sell gold and Blizzard will do nothing about it.

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  • bbranch70bbranch70 Member Posts: 19
    Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but from what I can tell there not trying to stop them from selling gold. they are just making them stop spamming their adverts for gold in-game.



    I hope this doesn't imply that it's okay to sell gold as long as you don't advertise it through in-game spam.
  • grunt187grunt187 Member CommonPosts: 956

    I  give blizzard  i know after the last patch spam is down,duno if it is because of lawsuit or no more whispering  4 trial accounts.But the game is much better with out the gold sellers.

     So maby nothing will happen to "Peons4hire" but  to blizzard for the try!!

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  • Lord_ZLord_Z Member UncommonPosts: 157

    Indeed, Peons4hire are the worst culprits for spamming whispers to players and also spamming ingame channels ie General. Ideally though if Blizzard wanted to get rid of gold buying alltogether they'd need to make getting gold more enjoyable, right now you have to grind for hours to get a decent amount of money even more so now all the places where you can make money are camped with bots etc... :/

  • MithrunMithrun Member Posts: 23
    good job Blizzard, it's about time, those spams made the game unenjoyable

    I didn't realize there were so many WoW clones...seeing WoW was the first MMO ever made..oh wait, wasn't there something before WoW, another MMO or 2 or 3 or ....

  • TheldionTheldion Member Posts: 5
    Woo!  Half the time I logged onto WoW, I'd have 1-3 mails from alphabet-soupish names advertising gold-selling services.  One time I actually had over a page (of titles) from the spammers.  Must've been at least 10.
  • RobbgobbRobbgobb Member UncommonPosts: 674
    Wonder what this will accomplish. Will be interesting to see.
  • mindmeldmindmeld Member UncommonPosts: 229
    Sounds nice and i appreciate the effort on blizzards part though i dont belive it will stop that much selling but at least it may stop the crappy gold selling ads ingame

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  • MidavegMidaveg Member Posts: 296
    Good move but it will be a neverending battle. Players ourselves should join the fight too.. :D

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  • JayBirdzJayBirdz Member Posts: 1,017

    All I can say is "Its about dam time!" ......    If they follow thru with the lawsuit and win.  It  will be a nice step in the right direction for MMO's in general, and pave the way for other companys to take a no BS policey with these sellers.  

    As far as some commments like it won't do much are you kidding?  If they can win a  "Damages lawsuit" , hmm not sure what the right legal term is . But prove the sellers  damage their game " Financial Asset".     They can put these guys outta bussiness forever and finacially hurt them for a long time. It would also  make it easier for other companys to follow their footsteps and use this action as a reference in their own cases.  If Blizzard even follow thru that is as well as win the case.

  • KalengarKalengar Member Posts: 30
    Originally posted by bbranch70

    Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but from what I can tell there not trying to stop them from selling gold. they are just making them stop spamming their adverts for gold in-game.



    I hope this doesn't imply that it's okay to sell gold as long as you don't advertise it through in-game spam.

    Yep they're saying there's nothing they can do legally about selling gold..

    1st question the judge asks "Ok so  you don't want these guys spamming.   Explain to me what you're doing to prevent everyone from spamming in chat channels?"  "Explain to me what you're doing to prevent people from circumventing chat filters?" "Explain to me why you are targeting this person over anyone else?"

    The minute the judge determines that these guys are being targeted not for their spam but for the content of their spam versus the content of spam in chat channels the case is tossed.

    I appreciate the effort but it's just not going to happen. 

  • JayBirdzJayBirdz Member Posts: 1,017
    Originally posted by Kalengar

    Originally posted by bbranch70

    Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but from what I can tell there not trying to stop them from selling gold. they are just making them stop spamming their adverts for gold in-game.



    I hope this doesn't imply that it's okay to sell gold as long as you don't advertise it through in-game spam.

    Yep they're saying there's nothing they can do legally about selling gold..

    1st question the judge asks "Ok so  you don't want these guys spamming.   Explain to me what you're doing to prevent everyone from spamming in chat channels?"  "Explain to me what you're doing to prevent people from circumventing chat filters?" "Explain to me why you are targeting this person over anyone else?"

    The minute the judge determines that these guys are being targeted not for their spam but for the content of their spam versus the content of spam in chat channels the case is tossed.

    I appreciate the effort but it's just not going to happen. 

    Nm, if thats the case then , hmm  if they are just  going after the spamming, this is kinda pointless and nothing but a PR stunt.  I didn't read all the previous posts. Doh....   

    Tho i honestly don't see why they couldn't sue the snot out of gold sellers for selling gold.  Its Blizzards property, their servers , their game.       Theres a ton of idiotic and stupid lawsuits that go thru the court system and win all the time. If OJ can win his case, I don't see why the heck Blizzard couldn't build a dream team and win against gold sellers,  and pave the way for other smaller companys to follow suit.   

  • AlienovrlordAlienovrlord Member Posts: 1,525
    Originally posted by Robbgobb

    Wonder what this will accomplish. Will be interesting to see.
    If all it accomplishes is an end to the in-game spams from this gorup and makes the other gold farmers hesitate about spamming as well, then I say it will be worthwhile. 
  • KoolaiderKoolaider Member Posts: 450
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  • TrevorionTrevorion Member Posts: 63

    I guess Blizzard just gave peons4hire a huge free advert.  There are three possible flaws to their lawsuit:

    - probably they can never prove that the accounts spamming are people working for the said goldseller

    - it is a virtual asset issue without precedent.  Why condemn advertising in a virtual world when advertising is part of life.  Also there are a lot of MMOs and MUDs around that actually sell real life stuff.

    - The only two negative aspects of the issue is that it is a form of cheating and spamming ruins the environment.  But isn't it up to the moderators aka Blizzard themselves to act accordingly?  All they can do is enforce the virtual world laws aka their laws.  However the laws of a virtual world do not taly with real life laws.  The maximum they can do is apply filters and ban accounts.

    This is going to be either the joke of the year or an MMO revolution.  It will be interesting to follow.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,073
    Originally posted by JayBirdz


    Tho i honestly don't see why they couldn't sue the snot out of gold sellers for selling gold.  Its Blizzards property, their servers , their game.       Theres a ton of idiotic and stupid lawsuits that go thru the court system and win all the time. If OJ can win his case, I don't see why the heck Blizzard couldn't build a dream team and win against gold sellers,  and pave the way for other smaller companys to follow suit.   


    Well, if they really had a legal leg to stand on, I'm sure they would sue gold sellers for selling WOW gold and power-leveling services.



    Or...would they?  Perhaps not me thinks.



    Remember, gold sellers (well, the people who farm the gold)  pay lots of subscription fees, and each time they get banned they have to buy new licenses to start over.  (bumps up those sales figures you know).  Also, keep in mind...who do gold sellers actually sell to?  Well, cheating dirtbags of course,  but keep in mind...those cheaters all pay subscription fees.  In fact, since they are willing to invest substantial real money into their WOW hobby, there's a very good chance that they aren't going to cancel said subscription any time soon.  Heck, there's a very good chance those same cheaters actually pay for more than one subscription per month....



    So where's Blizzard's real incentive to stop the gold trade?  Sure, they have to pay lip-service towards appearing to care, so that people who detest the practice don't assume that they actually might condone it.  But in the end, they are very de-motivated to actually prevent gold trading.



    You may notice, they've made it so the best gear has to be earned via intensive in game raiding by the player or lots of in game PvP sessions, again by the players themselves.  Sure, you can hire people to level you in these areas, but few have the means or desire to try to do so.  So that effectively leaves gold for buying frills, like potions/materials for raiding, low level BOE gear for alts that are leveling up (and still paying sub fees) mounts which have little real effect in the gameplay, and other non consequential items.



    No, I don't think Blizzard or most other game companies are really worried about shutting down the gold trade completely....



    Now, in game spam is a different story, its annoying a major portion of the player base, and they are forced to deal with it.  No one will ever say..boy I'm sure glad I got spammed today...but many people will continue to buy WOW gold from the sellers.






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  • VelshaVelsha Member Posts: 20

    If they can sue and win it would be a great boon for the rest of the gaming industry. But if they lose...
    Unfortunately a lot of the gold advertisers are based in other countries and they will need to depend on international laws and the willingness of the "other countries" to take action on the people/companies that are in the gold selling business. As was described to me, can you imagine China putting the clamps down on a company that is giving jobs to its people and bringing in a lot of American dollars?
    <Mod edit>.


    As I see it, the real problem is not just the advertisers but the people who buy their services. If they didn't buy the advertisers and the secondary market for in game items, coin and characters would go away. But then there are a lot of people out there for quick self gratification and while that is a problem there will be others trying to profit from it.

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  • query0102query0102 Member Posts: 57

    *Scratches head*

    *Counting the days since WoW launch*

    Ok in 2.5 years how many Gold selling companies did Blizzard sue, hmmmm... lets see : 1 ?

    Let me put it even simpler for those that didnt get the hint : they relied on them (the farmers, the gold/account sellers)  for the past 2.5 years and now that they can stand on their own 2feet, with a big player base, and dont need free advertising anymore they just file 2-3 lawsuits so that the players will think they are doing them justice, upholding righteousness and stuff, and they arent slacking. In truth they don't care much bout this issue.

     

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  • Ironman2000Ironman2000 Member UncommonPosts: 310

    They need to go after <Mod edit> too, I hate those bastards, on our server you can't go 10 minutes without one of them spamming you image. One of them actually managed to spam trade channel on the horde side on our server...go figure. I think part of the problem is when they are not located on US shores, there isn't a lot legally they can do to them, other than try to kick them out of game, but then again most of them are level 1 new trial characters....so its kinda pointless to kick them out. They need something in the systems to allow regular paying users to block trial players from private tells, because most trial players (not all mind you) have a friend who already plays, so you could put the friend on some sort of exception list, much like the ignore list. I mean new players would be able to use regular /say to ask questions, and if someone started to spam gold there just walk away from them LOL.

  • healz4uhealz4u Member Posts: 1,065
    I applaud them in this effort to deal with nefarious Gold-sellers.





    The real problem is the Gold-Buyer.





    Shame on you, Gold Buyers.  Shame on you!
  • lisaroblisarob Member UncommonPosts: 93

    This is funny blizzard made a game where you have to use gold to become better than normal.

    now they dont like goldsellers ?

  • Kaynos1972Kaynos1972 Member Posts: 2,316
    Blizzard dont hate gold sellers.  They hate gold spammers.  I'm sure someone who wants to buy gold know pretty well where to go.  What's Blizzard's fighting are spammers.
  • Raven99Raven99 Member Posts: 111
    Originally posted by Szark

    Blizzard has announced on their forums that they will be taking legal action against Peons4hire, a gold selling organization well known to many World of Warcraft players for their obnoxious spamming and in-game advertising.

    As many of you know, the latest content patch, along with many great new content additions, contains technical counter-measures designed to combat in-game gold spamming. Our efforts to reduce in-game abuse and create a fun, safe environment for everyone are never-ending.

    With that said, we felt that it was important to share with the community just how serious we are in our efforts to combat this type of abuse. Blizzard has filed a federal lawsuit against the operators of Peons4hire, a popular gold-selling organization which many of you have no doubt seen advertised. As part of the lawsuit, the operators of Peons4hire have been asked to immediately cease all in-game spamming efforts by all entities and websites under their control.

    If this organization refuses to act accordingly, further legal action will be taken. We'll be sure to keep you posted on the progress of this topic.

    Read the thread on the WoW forums.

    Who cares there are bigger and better games out there where you don't have to put up with this sort of activity.



    Raven
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