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bukshotbukshot Member Posts: 277
in WWII Online: Battleground Europe
I can't believe people pay $14.99 a month to play this game. From the screenshots it looks like I could have played this back in 1985, graphics are retarded. Why does everyone charge $14.99 to play their crappy games. ugh!

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  • KeoghKeogh Member Posts: 1,099
    Originally posted by bukshot

    I can't believe people pay $14.99 a month to play this game. From the screenshots it looks like I could have played this back in 1985, graphics are retarded. Why does everyone charge $14.99 to play their crappy games. ugh!

    Don't want to start a fight with you, just giving a short answer to your question.

    Battleground Europe Features

    Environment

    Weapons

    Strategy

    Communications

    RPG

    Communities

    More

    ENVIRONMENT

    - First Person Point of View in all units

    - Advanced Combat Simulation with Combined arms action (Air, Sea, Ground)

    - Over 600 Cities and Towns to fight for, in block by block combat through over 29,000 Buildings

    - Huge zoneless map of Europe covering over 350,000 kilometers with over 4,000,000 3D trees

    - Over 200 Bridges that can be destroyed and repaired

    - Line of Sight over 6km

    - Thousands of players fighting 24/7

    WEAPONS

    - Over 80 different vehicles and weapons available (including land air and sea types)

    - Multicrew feature allows more than one player to play in the same vehicle

    - Realistic Ballistics for all weapons

    STRATEGY

    - Factory production sets spawnable units in the field

    - Airfields host deployed fighter or bomber units

    - Deep Water Ports host deployed naval flotillas

    - Supply management

    - Production Management

    - Technologies Research Management

    - Brigade Deployment

    - Attack Objectives

    - Defense Objectives

    - Re-supply

    - Cut enemy supply

    - Blow and Repair Bridges

    - Strategic Map

    - Early Warning Air Attack System

    COMMUNICATIONS

    - Area Chat (Whisper, Normal, Shout)

    - Enemy communications delivered as garbled translations

    - Community Chat (French/Spanish/German etc...)

    - High Command Chat

    - Brigade Chat

    - Private Messaging

    - Squad Chat (Talk with your buddies)

    RPG

    - Multiple careers in 3 Different Armies(Air/Sea/Ground)

    - Personal combat stats and records(Kills/Ratio/Death/Best Units and personal diary)

    - Rank promotion with gameplay success

    - Promotion to Command positions possible with tactical success

    - Gazette Online newspaper(English Only)

    - Campaign Stats

    - Global Stats

    - Join a virtual unit with your personal

    - Get Missions and Orders by the High Command

    - Lead your men and become an officer

    COMMUNITIES

    - Weekly newsletter

    - Dev News/Log

    - Development Screenshots

    - Replies to Players questions

    - Polls

    - Community sites "HQ" (French, German, Italian, Spanish etc...)

    - Technical Support Forum(French/English)

    - Customer Support Forum (French/English)

    - HQ Managers forum

    - Dev team interaction via the HQs or Forum(French/English)



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  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977
    Sounds like Battlefield on steriods, that's pretty much what interested me to order it and try it out. I hope I'm right.

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  • CortoCorto Member Posts: 64
    Originally posted by bukshot

     From the screenshots it looks like I could have played this back in 1985,

    I seriously doubt you were even born then.
  • KeoghKeogh Member Posts: 1,099
    Originally posted by Corto

    Originally posted by bukshot

     From the screenshots it looks like I could have played this back in 1985,

    I seriously doubt you were even born then.

    No, according to his bio, he would have been 4 or 5 years old in 85.

    I graduated from college in 80. I'm getting old, I don't recommend it to anyone. ugh...

    "Don't corpse-camp that idea. Its never gonna rez"
    Bladezz (The Guild)

  • hardcasehardcase Member Posts: 367
    The same statement. The graphics while not stand alone quality are always improving. The reason they are not standalone quality is that Standalones have 200x200 METER map which use fog, bldgs etc to reduce the view distance so they can have vehicles players bldgs of high numbered polygons. WW2OL..has a 6K view distance and must be able to show 128 players in your view, look left..another 128 players, look right...128 and so on. Graphics must be budgeted so that people will be able to play with good FPS, view 6k..more in the air and see, show players, dead bodies, tanks, tank hulks, towns, bldgs, roads, bridges, trees, bushes. And rermember that the state of the art physics model is grinding your CPU at all times. Each round is tracked for 3k...EACH. The speed energy, angle of flight..angle of penetration, damage to the component(no hit bubble), loss of energy due to the damage, speed of exit, angle of exit, amout of spalling produced, concussion effect(if any) produced, and all this is tracked and sent to the front ends till the round is spent or 3k is reached. Graphics are good, gameplay is best..gameplay for me always. SH4 is pretty but I think the gameplay is flawed. SH4 will soon come off my machine, WW2OL has been on since the first iteration of beta in June of 2000.
  • spizzspizz Member UncommonPosts: 1,971
    Originally posted by bukshot

    I can't believe people pay $14.99 a month to play this game. From the screenshots it looks like I could have played this back in 1985, graphics are retarded. Why does everyone charge $14.99 to play their crappy games. ugh!



    There is not a single game which you can compare to this one, i would be happy if any company would create a game with super great graphics, the same huge territory, the same very long view of serveral miles and of course realistic and historical correct equipment as good as possible as well penetration calculation, degree of impacts etc... The only 2nd mmopg is planetside, but its a science fiction mmopg without any realism or deeper content/territorial fights like this game offers.

    But unfortunately no game exist still which could compete with this one here and give the thrill they are looking for, thats why they pay the monthly fee. There is also another reason, the game development didnt stuck and every several months new content and patches are beeing released, heck they plan even to release a new engine this or next year and players stick with the hope even it takes long and the rats promise often too much. In 1985 you could play only pac man game types on your c64, even only 7 years ago the game did look quiete different and curren game graphics would run in minus fps digits on your system at this time. Just do a research and watch the screenshots 5 years ago and now, totally different game and graphics. But the most imporatant, people dont play it for the graphics they play it for the game content, you will forget fast about the graphics if you really into this game and instead concentrate on your fights on the battlefield. This game is a hardcore simulation mmopg and not just a shoot em up like all other games, its a niche game and not developed for the mass, its just the best world war 2 sim game you can get at the moment.

  • gluglugluglu Member Posts: 25
    This game rocks... some people even pay $1000 for a lifetime suscription.. so figure it!.



    This game has more diversity than any other MMOG"ScriptRolePlaying" out there.
  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615
    Originally posted by hardcase

    The same statement. The graphics while not stand alone quality are always improving. The reason they are not standalone quality is that Standalones have 200x200 METER map which use fog, bldgs etc to reduce the view distance so they can have vehicles players bldgs of high numbered polygons. WW2OL..has a 6K view distance and must be able to show 128 players in your view, look left..another 128 players, look right...128 and so on. Graphics must be budgeted so that people will be able to play with good FPS, view 6k..more in the air and see, show players, dead bodies, tanks, tank hulks, towns, bldgs, roads, bridges, trees, bushes. And rermember that the state of the art physics model is grinding your CPU at all times. Each round is tracked for 3k...EACH. The speed energy, angle of flight..angle of penetration, damage to the component(no hit bubble), loss of energy due to the damage, speed of exit, angle of exit, amout of spalling produced, concussion effect(if any) produced, and all this is tracked and sent to the front ends till the round is spent or 3k is reached. Graphics are good, gameplay is best..gameplay for me always. SH4 is pretty but I think the gameplay is flawed. SH4 will soon come off my machine, WW2OL has been on since the first iteration of beta in June of 2000.

    This isn't an issue in 2007.



    What really kills there ability to upgrade the graphics is all the calculations they do. That part is impressive.

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  • spizzspizz Member UncommonPosts: 1,971
    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by hardcase

    The same statement. The graphics while not stand alone quality are always improving. The reason they are not standalone quality is that Standalones have 200x200 METER map which use fog, bldgs etc to reduce the view distance so they can have vehicles players bldgs of high numbered polygons. WW2OL..has a 6K view distance and must be able to show 128 players in your view, look left..another 128 players, look right...128 and so on. Graphics must be budgeted so that people will be able to play with good FPS, view 6k..more in the air and see, show players, dead bodies, tanks, tank hulks, towns, bldgs, roads, bridges, trees, bushes. And rermember that the state of the art physics model is grinding your CPU at all times. Each round is tracked for 3k...EACH. The speed energy, angle of flight..angle of penetration, damage to the component(no hit bubble), loss of energy due to the damage, speed of exit, angle of exit, amout of spalling produced, concussion effect(if any) produced, and all this is tracked and sent to the front ends till the round is spent or 3k is reached. Graphics are good, gameplay is best..gameplay for me always. SH4 is pretty but I think the gameplay is flawed. SH4 will soon come off my machine, WW2OL has been on since the first iteration of beta in June of 2000.

    This isn't an issue in 2007.



    What really kills there ability to upgrade the graphics is all the calculations they do. That part is impressive.



    And the almost 10 year old engine...they did start to develop the engine in the late 90ies, dont forget that guys

    But they did squeeze out amazing graphics from this old engine....when you compare to the pictures in the first 2 years after release. Hope to see soon pictures with the new engine they are working on.

  • smek1975smek1975 Member UncommonPosts: 73

    This is actually one of the MMO´s i keep sticking to, love the feeling of realism and sences, cuzz this game gives it all, i recument this game for everyone but wow players, the reward is much much better...

    Look me up if you starting..

    Sincerly Smek75

    It is hard to tell if a man is telling the truth when you know you would lie if you were in his place

  • DpedersenDpedersen Member UncommonPosts: 30
    Also, We pay for MMO's because if we didnt the game companys would just release the game and forget about it(with bug fixes every once and awhile) BUT NO! THESE RATS ACTUALY UPDATE THE GAME WITH NEW EQUIPMENT AND NEW VEHICLES EVERY 2 OR 3 MONTHS! ITS WORTH THE MONEY! AND THERE ISNT A WWII ONLINE PLAYER SUBSCRIBED THAT WILL TELL YOU OTHERWISE! (also its only a 64 player visual limit not 128, sorry to burst your bubble)
  • HairogHairog Member Posts: 97
    If you have the computer for it you can set it for 128 player.  You need a real high end machine however.
  • SresSres Member Posts: 156
    Probably be because not everyone is driven by how flashy graphics are.



    You should try the game, look past the graphics and play the game for what it is, the only true pvp game with next to no AI.

    Life can be tapped

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