www.youtube.com/watch www.youtube.com/watch Watch both for different angles of Akon throwing a kid off the stage. He must feel tough beating up a small white teenager.
In the first video it doesn't look as bad, like the crowd caught him....no in the second video it shows him crashing into the ground.
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RISING DRAGOON ~AION US ONLINE LEGION for Elyos
Sorry Rik, but all i see is a barely talented, over-hyped idiot throwing some kid around. Even if the 'throwee' was paid, im sure the person(s) he could have injured when he landed on them weren't.
And I've thought exactly the same thing when I've seen rock singers etc hitting kids with guitars and microphones. It's posturing, glorification of violence to massage his ego and enhance his 'street' persona, at the expense of another. Security are there to deal with kids throwing stuff, not the artist.
I remember seeing a bottle bounce off Dave Lee Roths head at a gig, he didnt attack him, he let security handle it and then assure the idiot that after the gig he would 'F**k his girlfriend'.
That's how a real rock/music star deals with it
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RISING DRAGOON ~AION US ONLINE LEGION for Elyos
You may not have noticed in the second video the can or bottle that almost hit Akon in the head. He asked who threw it and the kid that did was brought to the stage, and then thrown off it.
Considering that a lot of kids will rush a stage just to have things like that happen, or to jump off the stage themselves. I would have to say that he was very fortunate that Akon didn't have him removed from the show.
You may not appreaciate the music, but ask yourself how you would feel if you were on stage and some punk threw a bottle at you?
I give the man credit for keeping his cool.
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I'm not comparing him to me, I'm comparing him to acts and individuals with real talent and ability. Performers who know its their job to entertain rather than do the security guys job. If it wasnt posturing, why did he feel the need to take of his vest to throw the kid? He was too busy trying to impress the little girls at the front with a six-pack and feigned macho bull to think about what he was doing. I'd be willing to bet his management weren't too impressed either, and I wager whatever law firm represents his label went pale.
I remember being at an Insane Clown Posse concert (please don't judge me, a friend asked me to go) We were on the balcony when one of the guys from the group asked to have the area me and my friends were at cleared. The bouncer came by and just started pushing and spititing in our faces. We weren't some place we had no right to be.
DO NOT spit in a red heads face after he's been drinking for the past 2 hours. I was drug out of the building shortly after the bouncer ran away from me.
I've seen security litterally beat the shit out of kids that got up on stage, even after the performer encouraged them to. I've also been to rock concerts were the artist spit on some of the crowd, or had kids come up on stage and then tackle them.
Please don't use the posted video to make a judgement between rock and hip hop. One of the best concerts I was at was a Busta Rymes concert. The only time I've ever gotten out of a seat to use the restroom and had my seat returned to me when I got back without having to ask, or remove the person personally.
Things like this have no grounding in the style of music, rock or rap, or to put it in a more generalized sence, white or black.
Personally, security wouldn't have been fast enough to keep me from laying an ass wooping on David Lee Roth if he told the crowd he was going to F my girl. From were I stand, being thrown of the stage, no dif. then diving off, is not nearly as ignorant as having the artist proclaim he's going to do my girl.
Wish Darkfall would release.
I like both Rock and Rap/Hip-hop, its not about the music. I was equally if not even less impressed when one of motley crue beat a kid over the head with a guitar, and when axl rose hit a kid with a mike stand. Im judging the man by his actions, not the music, but I will admit I cant stand the crap he puts out.
Verbally admonishing a fan and threatening the chastity of his girlfriend is a long standing comeback to missile throwing and heckling. Whatever his talent, whatever style of music he plays, he overstepped the mark.
Sure you would , verbally embarrassing a kid like that is infinetly more reasonable than having a security guy pass him up to throw him off onto unsuspecting front row fans
Watch a video with kids stage diving, hell i did it myself as a teen (first generation ), and watch the kid hesitate for a few seconds to spot a few people who can catch him, people who are prepared to do so because they know thats what he is going to do.
Jumping from a stage of your own volition, if you get hurt its your own stupid fault. Being physically hurled by the guy on stage into an unsuspecting crowd is very different.
Keep in mind. Security took the kid to the stage.
What I find funny is that every single person in the audience is booing the kid, and he didn't even stugle when being picked up.
I'm willing to bet a dollar a donut that the kid didn't think being thrown of stage by Akon was so bad. I'm also willing to bet that the kid told everyone he knew that wasn't there about it, and not in a bad way.
It's amazing some of the things fans will endure.
I just don't see it as that big a deal. And why is no one critisizing security for NOT throwing the kid out, and instead taking him to the stage. What did they think Akon was going to do, kiss him?
Edit: I watched the second video again. I noticed that not a single person on that side of the stage even bothered to help the kid; including the guy standing there with a badge on his chest.
Wish Darkfall would release.
I just wanna clarify. I don't think it was right that Akon threw the kid off the stage like that. I just don't think that it was that big a deal, or that the kid didn't get what he deserved.
I don't really care what the enviroment is. You do not throw a bottle at someone. Especially when they're in a position as vulnerable as being on stage and unaware that the object is headed toward them.
There was a football player a couple seasons ago that got hit in the eye with a refs penalty flag. The bean bag used to weigh it down almost cost him his sight. It wasn't an intentional act, but if a bean bag that wasn't accually thrown at a person could do that kind of damage, imagine what a bottle could do when it's intentionally thrown at a persons face.
Me, I likely would have picked the bottle up and thrown it back at him. I dought I could still throw an 80mph fastball over a strike zone still, but I bet I could still nail the kid pretty good. He's also lucky another person in the audience didn't beat the crap out of him; something I've seen happen before, and for less.
Wish Darkfall would release.
I'm 37, Ive been attending gigs of all sorts since i was 15, I spent 2 years of my early 20's as a musician touring in the back of a van playing the roughest dives you have ever seen. I still have many friends in the management and tour management industry. I have more than a clue my friend.
I can assure you, if someone threw a plastic bottle (all glass items are banned at any gig BTW) near the Rock's head, the man has enough sense of perpspective to be profesional, let security handle it and avoid a public fiasco and/or lawsuit by throwing some kid around and possibly injuring some poor saps in the crowd. He wouldnt 'break your arm off' or beat your 'A$$ to a bloody pulse'. Catch the guy off duty in a quiet alley , maybe. But in front of cameras and an audience he would have more sense. I dont think i can think of a gig i havnt been too where something hasnt been thrown at the stage. Akon overstepped the line and endangered not only the kid he was throwing but others too.
Akon should have done what every other profesional artist of reasonable intelligence would do, let security handle it, bad mouth/ridicule the kid over the mic, and get on with his job.
And you do realise that trying to come across as a tough guy over the internet is pretty sad don't you?
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I'm 37, Ive been attending gigs of all sorts since i was 15, I spent 2 years of my early 20's as a musician touring in the back of a van playing the roughest dives you have ever seen. I still have many friends in the management and tour management industry. I have more than a clue my friend.
I can assure you, if someone threw a plastic bottle (all glass items are banned at any gig BTW) near the Rock's head, the man has enough sense of perpspective to be profesional, let security handle it and avoid a public fiasco and/or lawsuit by throwing some kid around and possibly injuring some poor saps in the crowd. He wouldnt 'break your arm off' or beat your 'A$$ to a bloody pulse'. Catch the guy off duty in a quiet alley , maybe. But in front of cameras and an audience he would have more sense. I dont think i can think of a gig i havnt been too where something hasnt been thrown at the stage. Akon overstepped the line and endangered not only the kid he was throwing but others too.
Akon should have done what every other profesional artist of reasonable intelligence would do, let security handle it, bad mouth/ridicule the kid over the mic, and get on with his job.
And you do realise that trying to come across as a tough guy over the internet is pretty sad don't you?
I dunno. As an artist myself, I'm of the opinion that most artists aren't the most rational people on the planet, and often times rather sencetive. I think this is one of the reason so many people in an artistic proffesion do such stupid things.
A friend of mine came back from a Gwar concert once with every stich of clothing he was wearing ruined. The band was squirting something into the audience that happend to have a red dye in it. Not quite the same as throwing someone off a stage, but still a pretty stupid thing to do if you ask me.
I've seen kids jumping from 20ft or so into a crowd of people at a concert, as you said early this of course is of thier own free will and volition, but what of the people in the crowd that those kids land on. They didn't agree to be jumped on.
Been to quite a lot of shows myself, and one thing that's been an almost constant at them, is that someone ass is going to do something incredibly stupid. Whether that ass is the artist on stage or one in the crowd.
In this case the kid was no brighter then Akon himself.
To the guy that made the statement about people defending Akon. How many posts have you seen here that critisize the kid for throwing the bottle (plastic or not that could have cause a serious injury).
Both the kid an Akon are at fault here, and I don't think that what Akon did was really any worse then the kid throwing the bottle.
Put it into another context. What kind of person do you think that kid is if he's willing to do such a thing?
Wish Darkfall would release.