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(Poll) How important is it for a game to be "Ground Breaking"
Dark_Lord_13
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And what are your reasons for saying so?
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Warp
Innovation is a big help, but is not necessary in most cases, at least in terms of A particular game's success, ground breaking games are quite necessary in and of themselves. The problem with little to no innnovation occurs when you can swap between several different games and hardly notice the difference.
But as always the two most important factors in terms of one specific game are whether or not you as the player find it enjoyable, and its overall stability. Take WoW for example, it was not innovative in the slightest, copying some of the best known features in games all across the genre. It is on the other hand quite possibly the most stable MMO on the market, and many find it fun to play (even if I don't), and look where it is now.
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Hemingway
I am looking for an MMO that takes bold steps forward. I want to feel like I am experiencing something unlike anything I have ever played. The devs can accomplish this through many different ways. Unique storytelling. Completely different look. New ways of interfaace or interacting with the game. Original rulesets. And most importantly, a game that has a sense of humor and that makes you want to see what will happen next.
There are too many games copping each other. We need more games that take a risk and try new ideas. I will not pay for games that recycle old ideas.
I am tired of the cookie cutter asian/DAOC model games but mainly my thing is how does the combat differentiate between the games. AC Combat>All others
While I think it's great to see games break the mold now and then but I do believe it's certainly possible to make a really great game without making any revolutionary changes. If you actually look at many of recent years FPS's of quality, they really havn't done tons to change the market. What games like FEAR, Half Life 2, Stalker, Halo and the like did was take a really solid concept and build on it some no one was missing anything to have fun, no one would say: "This is a good game but it needs this". Well they took care of this and they put some of "that" in there while they were at it.
Every now and then, you'll get a game like The Sims or Homeworld Ultima Online that changes the way you look at a genre and sets the benchmark but we really shouldn't expect that 100% of the time. It's OK to concentrate on just a really good, solid gaming experience.
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There comes a point where people get bored of what they are doing or it becomes annoying... it doesn't make sense to start playing something that is the same as what you got bored of, or has the same annoyances in it.
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No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Now, this doesn't mean that every single aspect of the game has to be innovative, but it needs to be in some major way or other, or else I will be bored. For example, I just played (and enjoyed) Jade Empire. Now, the conversation interface and the basic conversation mechanism is not new -- it's the same one Bioware has used in other games. However, the combat system was very innovative, and it was a very refreshing break from the tired old "hotbar with rechargeable hotbuttons" system I have become bored to death with from other CRPGs and MMOs. Had this been a more "traditional" combat interface along with the old fashioned Bioware conversation interface I would probably have been much less happy with it.
On the other hand, I am not going to be captivated just because it is new... it has to be interesting or fun in its own right. But if I've seen it a lot before, it's going to be much harder to capture me, than if it is new. In other words, "new + fun" beats "old + fun" in my book. Of course, "old + fun" beats "new + not fun" -- and that can happen. But I am getting tired of feeling like I play the same game over and over again and in MMOs in particular this seems to be the case. (The other case where this happens is RTS games, which pretty much all use the same controls, interface, etc.)
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While "groundbreaking" certainly sparks emotion it's going to be some time before we see it.
At this point I'd settle for innovation, heck someone trying something diffrent would be nice. Things tend to come in cycles, now that lite MMO's have had their moment in the sun.the next evolution will be strategy & AI. Combine what made games like WOW & LOTRO popular (eliminating long travel and useless timesinks) with the requirement of old school strategy & thinking like UO & EQ1.
Minus the timesinks of course.
Dutchess Zarraa Voltayre
Reborn/Zero Sum/Ancient Legacy/Jagged Legion/Feared/Nuke & Pave.
It depends on what kind of a gamer you are. If you are a hardcore gamer, most likely you want something new and fun coz you're tired of the same ole stuff. If you're a casual gamer most likely you'll play a game that is fun for you even if the game concept or design or graphics is old. Also a hardcore gamer or a casual gamer doesn't mean time investment in a certain game. Some casual gamer can play whole day long and everyday and some hardcore gamer can only play a few dozen hours per week. It is the mentality of the gamer that is in question, hardcore gamers tend to want to get to the end-game the fastest and find the most efficient means to get there while casual gamers tend to dally around, smell the flowers, and savor the game without worrying too much about end-game. Hardcore gamers savor excitement, new game technologies, breakthrough features, next generation graphics while casual gamers savor better content, better storytelling, tradeskilling, player housing and game socialization. But of course those definitions are the extremes, each of us gamers want a mix of those qualities in our games.
or they can't come up with any selling points besides saying it's ground breaking.
so I normally ignore games that claim to be ground breaking.
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
So, by that logic you ignore almost every single game that ever came out. Since they pretty much all claim to be ground breaking somewhere in its company hype?
The point of the discussion at hand is not how much acid the advertisers for a game took before writing up their claims, but about the games themselves and how new or old its features may be.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Don't you worry little buddy. You're dealing with a man of honor. However, honor requires a higher percentage of profit