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Oversight committee to audit CCP
Xarixer
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CCP opens up to fight accusations. Player elections for a oversight committee.
www.nytimes.com/2007/06/07/arts/07eve.html
www.nytimes.com/2007/06/07/arts/07eve.html
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Thanks.
Very interesting. A good sign.
Have fun
About time.
Now that is interesting. It's almost enough for me to come back to the game . . . but I deleted my characters, lol, just to make sure I never went back! LOL.
- Stray
Interresting, My question is why are they even going to lengths like this to beging with. Seems like they are doing this for the wrong reasons. Had a company that was not in the situation CCP is in done this. I would say "neat". A company with a game like Eve should never get involved with game politics, and should always represent a Un-Biased point of view towards the thriving community within the game.
No one is perfect and no one expects CCP to be perfect. I for one kinda think they set themselves up alittle. Thay made such strict guidelines reguarding tampering from Dev's and GM's. Had they actually set realistic punishments or punishments that they were willing to inforce no matter who broke the rules. This shit storm thats been going on for awhile now would not have ever happened. People would say oh a gm cheated and got dealt with accordingly. Sure it would be a blimish but blimishes go away as long as you take the steps to correct them.
I don't see how this is one of those steps tho. Whats a no name person from the community gonna be able to do really? I mean all they are gonna do is invite them out show them a good time. Then they are just gonna go back to the community and say everythings ok?
In a way that is in the atmosphere of the game...
It shouldn't been USR in the "I robot" movie it should have been "EVE". Not CCP that would have been to unimaginative. The computersystem in "Terminator" movies should have had subliminal connections to CCP.
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
Your right it is. I wasn't arguing that it was not in the spirit of the game. Read what I said again.
Quote from myself.
Interresting, My question is why are they even going to lengths like this to beging with. Seems like they are doing this for the wrong reasons. Had a company that was not in the situation CCP is in done this. I would say "neat".
So I don't think this will stop accusations but I like the idea that CCP opens up.
And of course it's great advertisement because this will be covered by a lot of media worldwide
You know when I was in the military we would go about our business from day to day doing our jobs and complaining about one thing or another. There were things that needed to get fixed, painted, replaced etc... a thousand things that seemed to never get addressed and we just had to live with it. That is until some General wanted to do a "Surprise" inspection of his units to see how things really were at the soldiers level of things.
For a couple of weeks before the "Surprise" inspection thats when things would get fixed, repaired, replaced etc... individuals were selected to have a chat with the General so he could get the soldiers perspective. You know the guys I'm talking about, the guys who ran around kissing booty, getting as much face time as they could so they got the early promotions or never seemed to have to pull a detail for the Sgt Major. All for the purpose of showing the General that he had a tight outfit and that there weren't any problems.
So CCP wants to put together an oversight group, thats good in principle. Personally the notion of making a popularity contest out of it is going to give them exactly what they want. A bunch of players that are biased favorably toward CCP, that they can clean things up for prior to their scheduled arrival for their "Surprise" inspection. They need to randomly pick out people who can then drop in unannouced to check things out, you know walk into the developers cubicals and take a look over their shoulders, I highly doubt that CCP employees personal accounts are going to be able to be checked out to see who they play with.
Don't get me wrong I think its a great idea but it needs to be done in a manner that allows it to have a candid look at whats going on rather than seeing whats been cleaned up prior for the "Surprise" inspection.
My thorn in the side and let me state that I does not know and never met SirMolle but what I have read about this cases is that he have named kuguts on the forums, have broken EULA several times and yet they don't ban him.
Same probably goes for DB Preacher...
I would have perfered that they set up an alliance council then a player voted group because sadly the people who shouldn't be in it will more and likely be voted in just because their names are recognized for screaming the loudest.
p.s. Don't suppose any of you guys read the recent information about the dev petition being deleted. Seems the guy didn't want to scream that he disconnected upon trying to file it and didn't try and file another one. But surely that wasn't worth mentioning in the accusations.
This all is very interesting but is flawed. The people who will win these elections will be the leaders and their reps from the largest alliances in EVE. The big alliances in EVE will have a easyer time organizing their members to vote for them. It will be easy for the larger alliances to buy votes from other smaler corps[ say access to their space or somthing]
Having these large alliance members having 1 on 1 face time with CCP employes im affraid will give us the same results we have already. Perhaps this move will satisfy the larg alliance members that dont have back channel access to dev's like BOB does but thats about it.Not sure if this is gunna keep Dev's from making personal relationships in the EVE game.
Personaly i would perfer that CCP just removes all private Dev accounts from EVE and keeps a healthy distance from the EVE playerbase. I dont think a alliance worth over 250k and a 30k a month real cash income wispering in CCP's ear is gunna make anything better for the game.
All this being said kudos to CCP for a for this political move. By giving = access to your devs by all large alliances you will silence much of the crying for reform. Although the independants like my self will still be scratching our heads, I fear. Just the fact that Sir Molle was in the Ny times article and what he said in it speaks volums to me [ many would agree Sir Molle should have been banned by CCP and hes championing this latest move ,Hm.
EVE is better then most MMO's out right now although it may be 2 Fascist for my taste.
Your right it is. I wasn't arguing that it was not in the spirit of the game. Read what I said again.
Quote from myself.
Interresting, My question is why are they even going to lengths like this to beging with. Seems like they are doing this for the wrong reasons. Had a company that was not in the situation CCP is in done this. I would say "neat".
Yeah
I was replying to the OP btw
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
An so it begins
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One of the things that Sir Molle said is that he lives in Britain. I think what they have determined is that if most of BOB votes for him, he'll be one of the 9 going to the oversight commitee, and be able to visit his GM/Dev friends in person. Of course the oversight commitee won't see anything much going on in game, because all the wheeling and dealing will be in private behind closed doors with sir molle and the corrupt DEVs.
I thought it was a good idea, but unless they are not allowing BOD or any of their pet alliances, its just going to give BOD better access to CCP. I really thought they had changed their stripes, but rethinking this one, I think they are doing a good PR job on this move, but overall I think its not really going to let the unbiased players guarantee no funny business is going on......
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