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BOB won the game?
blackcat35
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was reading a post that said that BOB has won, game set match.....wondering how many people really think that BOB has won the game and is unstoppable? why?
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The game is dead not, this game is good we make it and Romania Tv give it 5 goat heads, this is good rating for game.
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No one who actively plays EVE Online believes that statement.
If I didn't know better this thread seems like an attempt to troll the forums due to the recent round of tinfoil being passed around.
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The game is dead not, this game is good we make it and Romania Tv give it 5 goat heads, this is good rating for game.
No one who actively plays EVE Online believes that statement.
If I didn't know better this thread seems like an attempt to troll the forums due to the recent round of tinfoil being passed around.
Geez, thanks for lifting the OP out of my filter
Ofcourse there is none that believe it.
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
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Here's what I think:
While it is very possible for BoB to get whupped if loads of other alliances team up and get serious, the fact of the matter is that this won't happen, at least with the alliances as they are now. BoB play this game seriously, many of their members are on irc or other chat or messenger programs almost around the clock, and log in when they're told that they're needed. BoB have a magnificent infrastucture, oodles of cash, a well-oiled PR machine, very sound strategy, well thought-out hierarchy and some very good FC's and tacticians. Add that to the level of commitment that many in BoB have, and you have a nigh unstobbable juggernaut - at least until someone comes along that does the same. Right now the only people who seem to be able to do that are the Goons and RA, both of whom I can't stand to be honest, the Goons being Something Awful jackasses for the most part and RA fight using the most annoying and unsporting tactics.
I'm not a BoB fanboi, far from it in fact since I was in CELES and have been fighting against them for as long as I can remember, just saying it like I see it. This isn't tinfoil hattery or rumours, I have RL BoB friends and have seen them in action.
Of course not, they won a war or close to it that's all.
no one can win the game, they can complete their goals but that's it.
But think about it, if this was any other game, would you care?
Has BoB won ? No , not yet
Could BoB "win" ? Yes. At least when we talk about controlling 0.0 space.
Many alliances HAVE ganged up against BoB and one group (the north) has effectively folded and moved back to empire and the other group (the south) has changed its policy :
I dont see any other group either wanting a full blown war with BoB nor being able to survive it at this time. All of 0.0 space is in range of BoB ( plus pets/allies) (super)capital fleet (because they use a cyno alt network - shared accounts, but CCP does not care).
BoB has a working concept .... conquer, but dont hold territory yourself. They rent out the conquered territory to paying customers (corporations/alliances) They are too few to be able to HOLD all of 0.0. But they are enough to conquer it. The day to day skirmishes and region defense is left to the renters. The stations and sovereignty stays in the hands of BoB (which will allow BoB SOON (TM) to further secure the conquered territories with NPC sentry guns ... coming in Reveleations patch 2 or 3 .... sometimes 2007).
Basically the EVE 0.0 alliances have blown their chance of stopping BoB when they did not support my old alliance (ASCN) when BoB started to attack us. We held for 4 months. Back then a concentration of all forces would have been able to smite BoB with sheer numbers. After that the two OTHER groups fought BoB ... and did not win (they did not fully lose yet, but its a matter of time). Now only smaller groups are left - some which are good in PvP, but none that really can survive the BoB (super)capital blob, which essentially negates skill with sheer destruction (multiple doomsday blasts kill you, no matter how good you fight).
With the 0.0 alliance warfare system utterly broken at the moment (leading to boooooring POS wars that cause people to leave EVE in disgust) and the hardware not being able to survive large scale fleet combat (resulting in node or server death) IMHO Tranquility server is going the way the EVE China server was going - most of the space being dominated by one group and because of it the server is stagnating. EVE China was worse than Tranquility because that one group was an ISK seller group. But that may well happen in Transquility too.
EVE has some nice game mechanics ( missions, exploration, trade, small scale PvP etc.) but when it comes to alliance warfare and fleet combat at this time I recommend it to only touch it with a 10 foot pole , and that only if you absolutely have to ...
When i see posts like these i allways tend to look at previous posts first.My suspicion was right ... you sir are an eve troll
.Only question i am puzzling with is not if BOB has won eve but why someone takes so much time to post bad stuff about a game and especially it's devloper over and over again.Even seen one post in wich you state ccp done worse to their game then SOE did with SWG.Ask the peops in the SWG vet forum what they think bout this one...
BoB can't win, even if they conquer all of 0.0 and everyone has to become a bob pet or live in empire. They are and it is proven that they have had an advantage and have been aparty to cheats in eve. some people say that is was just one BP others say its been going on for ages, but simply its not the extent its the fact. CCP ruined their own game by having ineffective policies in place to stop their DEV team from curropting the game. Honestly if you have the power to be a god in a game you should not be able to play with the general paying customers. There is no need for them to play in the same regions with the paying customers they have their own regions its called "jove" this is ingame on the playing seve that noone other than the devs use, but apparently they don't use it cos they are to busy running and assisting BoB. People can dismiss this as one person having a gripe I don't care.
I'm sure there are some legit ppl in BoB, it is a shame they get tared with the same brush, but you've also been assisted by them ie cheap ships, access to 6/10 complexs that drop faction ship BP's weird aye no other 6/10 except the ones in BoB space drop faction Battle ship BP's.
Apparently it was one isolated event from a single dev (rumor has it was one of the founders of CCP who owned the character), But weather its one BPO or not the flow on effect in EVE is more than that, example owning a single T2 BPO if its a rare one can make u more money than you'll need ie Cap recharger II. not saying that that was the BP that they got spawned.
CCP are trying to fix the problem, but they're also still having there DEV's play in BoB, wouldn't a more reasonable alternatve be that the DEV could not concentrate in one group. or even better stay in the noob corp right out of the way where they belong. shouldn't they be fixing the millions of bugs in EVE rather than making quick shoddy fixes cos they are to busy spawning Guristas Capital fleets in to take out player structures. I've had many fights against BoB gangs, no they are not super PvP pilots infact they are very poor when in comparison to TOXIN or E-R so its not combat skill that they have, its EVE bug/exploit knowledge that they use to its full effectiveness.
BoB can claim to win EVE or own 0.0, But even a monkey could win EVE if he had the right friends.
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in the beginning it was more seperated by ideals, you had production people in fountain, people that wanted to fleet fight in curse and stain. Production people that hated authority in Jk-fix. Pirates (small group fighters) in syndicate. Mentally retarded people in the NE. Now it's simply seperated by language and goons and everyone else. I don't see that changing.
those big vehicles you get in supreme commander were designed as things to end a match, and that's what titans and super capitals are now. The game was way more fun before exodus. In fact the tech 2 bpo lottery was the worst idea ever and it created this have and have nots type situation, and now with capital ships the haves are able to be that much more superior than the have nots. The best part about eve used to be to indicate you "had a high level" was simply to have like a bunch of battleships so you could get them blown up day after day without thinking about it. It was kind of a level cap in a way, sure you'd be much better off but the enemy wouldn't see you as unbeatable because they could have a battleship too, they might only have one, but on the battlefield it's simply battleship versus battleship. Where now the haves can be uber in the battlefield against the have nots.
well whatever, all that's left in eve is a bunch of bitches who want to cash in on someone elses acheivements. I guess i'm in the same boat as I was only in the curse alliance for like the last 4-5 months or so but I sure like to tell people I was in the curse alliance.
edit: i have an occator bpo and i still think the tech 2 lottery was crap
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if I were to kill a titan tomorrow and no CCP employees showed up to say grats I would petition it.
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if hp < 30 then CastSpell("heal") SpellTargetUnit("player") else CastSpell("smite") end
Well hmm has BoB won eve? No they have not So far they hold about 1/5 of 0.0 space and have 'rented' out a further 2/5 of 0.0 through conquoring the space then renting it out to weaker corps/alliances. Its a god idea really as they are not too spread out to be too thin to properly police there space and they surround themselves with rent paying Pets who will act as a buffer against real enermies.
As to whether they can Win eve well i admit they are very well organised and trained. But in the end 0.0 space is too big for any one alliance to controll unless of course BoB manages to expande by a large margine. As things are right now No it wont happen.
I will also add that Bob has the potential of being a long term occupent of 0.0 if they stay cohesive [and i see no evidence to the country] and dont overeach themselves [Which they havent so far] .
BTW good topic better than some ive seen here in recent months.
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Yep logistics wise those titans are a big help to BoB but with an upcomming change to how the Doomsday superwepon works they will becomme less powerfull in PvP. To start with they can no longer fire there superwepon at a targ t from severall systems away vis the jum portal the titan generates.
Also the other change is that after firing the superwepon that cant jump away for 10 minuites. So now thay cant use the old tactic of jumping into a enermy blob.....letting off the suerwepon destroying most of the enermy fleet.......Then jumping away safe in the knoledge they cant be warp ajmmed. Now tho the enermy fleet have 10 minuites to kill the titan which by the way has been done in 5 before.
BoB is Germany 60 years ago.
Let them have their fun.
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Wooh, I guess I've missed something lately then. I only knew about Shrike's and Orange Species' titans.
What's your point?
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Yep logistics wise those titans are a big help to BoB but with an upcomming change to how the Doomsday superwepon works they will becomme less powerfull in PvP. To start with they can no longer fire there superwepon at a targ t from severall systems away vis the jum portal the titan generates.
Also the other change is that after firing the superwepon that cant jump away for 10 minuites. So now thay cant use the old tactic of jumping into a enermy blob.....letting off the suerwepon destroying most of the enermy fleet.......Then jumping away safe in the knoledge they cant be warp ajmmed. Now tho the enermy fleet have 10 minuites to kill the titan which by the way has been done in 5 before.
DDD is a highly over-rated feature of the Titan. You have plenty of time to warp out before it goes off if you're flying aligned. and anything that has to orbit to fight (fast ships) can align and get into warp in plenty of time as well.
The true power of the titan is it's ability to get fleets to locations quickly. They also allow a power to bypass gates once Sov4 comes out with Rev2 or 3. The logistical powers of the titan are it's true strength. One BoB uses well I might add. D2 never did use their titans properly... neither did ASCN... thus their collapse. D2 also tried to go it alone instead of asking the rest of the north for help when they needed it. Another mistake. One that , so far, isn't being repeated by any of the other northern alliances. Ask any MC or Tits fleet how often they start an attack only to have 4 fleets show up to fight them.
I don't think the changes to the Titan are going to make them any less a balance changer on the battlefield. The DDD changes are minor... People have learned to deal with them.
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sincerely myself hope to see this
but then BoB have many luck
like Solar System in they defensive suddenly crumble 
And assault force enter in little groups in system
^^^^^ what he said
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