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An Insect Based MMO-If it was done.

DruNk_DwArF2DruNk_DwArF2 Member UncommonPosts: 196
Well here is something that i haven't seen posted on this forum not saying it hasn't been posted i just haven't seen it so i am going to bring it up and talk about it... Now lets say if a company was daring enough to tackle such a product the possibilities are nearly endless there are about 900,000 known insect species,I look at that as possible different Races/Classes of course they would have to narrow it down and look at the more popular species that we know about and the different classifications Ants,Beetles,Termites-I would say would be the most likely to have the most possibilities as i am no Insect expert so excuse me if i forgot one,I can see the ant's have many classes as they do extensive colonization and ranks through out,i am not sure about beetles..But i do know Termites are similar to ants in colonization..There are probably a heep more bugs i left out as i said i am no insect expert but the general idea of this being attempted is pretty cool and i hope to see it done soon.

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  • ElgarethElgareth Member Posts: 588
    Errr...what are you supposed to do in such a MMO?

    You can't have equipment, you can't have any magic, you can't have almost everything...

    All you'd do would be: "Get Food! Build Hive! Feed Eggs/Larvae!"...



    I really don't see it as a MMO-RPG.

    However, some semi-MMO-RTS, thingy could work...basically, pick your Race, and build up a Hive, Colonies and so on...



    But, something that might suit you is in the works already: Spore.

    Not a classical MMO.

    What Spore does is:

    You, as Player develop your own Species, first as a One-Cell Creature, then as a Fish-like creature, then on the Land, then you control your tribe, then your city, then your civilization, then you can even go into space and colonize other planets.



    Thing is:

    As long as you have an I-Net connection, your Species is being Uploaded to a Spore Server, and Species from other Players are being downloaded, and integrated into your World as it fits. (If your world lacks Carnivores, for example, some Carnivore species is downloaded and added to your world).

    Because your Playstyle determines the Character of your Creatures later on, you sort of interact with other players. If you play very aggressively, the AI which controls your Species on other PCs will also be very aggressive.



    Spore will release somewhere ~Q1 08. Maybe you should read up some info about it, you can create your insects there ;-)
  • DruNk_DwArF2DruNk_DwArF2 Member UncommonPosts: 196
    No No No..I don't think you see what i was getting at..Of course there will be Armor,Weapons,Magic etc. that is where the fantasy/non-reality part comes in..Well not so much the magic but yes.And i've already looked into spore..Looks awesome can't wait.

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  • GresloreGreslore Member Posts: 243
    I would dig playing a praying mantis.  Wonder if it would be a healer?  Monk?  Kung fu bug? 

    "...and with that cryptic comment, I'm off to bed!"

  • LilfurbalLilfurbal Member Posts: 115

    Hahaha, omg, what the heck.

    Last night while I was at work I was thinking about this myself.  But then I also thought to myself, if someone did make this sort of MMO it'd probably be geared towards kids younger than 10.  But if someone wanted to it could be rated T...

     

    It would definately be a unique world for a MMO.

  • montinmontin Member Posts: 218
    Originally posted by Elgareth

    Errr...what are you supposed to do in such a MMO?

    You can't have equipment, you can't have any magic, you can't have almost everything...

    All you'd do would be: "Get Food! Build Hive! Feed Eggs/Larvae!"...

    So when have you seen an Orc, I mean in real life. Who is to say an Orc can have equipment? Though I see what your getting at. It is a bit hard to picture an insect wearing +4 platemail and swinging a holy sword of thingee bop. But it's possible to develop it with a slightly different concept, maybe as your insect levels up it gains new powers. Bit like CoH/CoV, where your avatar doesn't really change in look but does increase in power. It's do able and a nice idea. I'd certainly give it a go.



    Oh yes. I'd second the point about Spore. It looks good, cant wait for it to be finished and released.
  • SoraellionSoraellion Member UncommonPosts: 558

    Lay

    off

    the

    booze

     

     

    Seriously :)

  • ryan2763ryan2763 Member Posts: 16
    A Bugs Life MMO.
  • ZindaihasZindaihas Member UncommonPosts: 3,662
    The idea does sound interesting to me if you have a very good imagination.  It could be the ulitmate PvP game if you think about it.  Ant colony vs termite colony.  Bee hive vs wasp hive.  And watch out for the deadly spider, the ulimate ninja class if there ever was one.  There was a game back in the early 90s called SimAnt.  It was a decent game.  An insect MMO could go well beyond that.  But as someone said in an earlier post, you would have characters who all looked alike and had the same abilities.  That would be a problem.

  • tunabuntunabun Member UncommonPosts: 666
    Originally posted by Elgareth

    Errr...what are you supposed to do in such a MMO?

    You can't have equipment, you can't have any magic, you can't have almost everything...

    All you'd do would be: "Get Food! Build Hive! Feed Eggs/Larvae!"...



    Do you have any creative ability at all... Seriously.




    But, something that might suit you is in the works already: Spore.

    Not a classical MMO.



    You are right, it`s not a classical MMO, because it ISN`T an MMO.....





    To the OP, a very good, creative, original idea.  Props to you.  I would suggest however to not just simply go the "armour" and Magic route but to seriously contemplate what could be done differently.  No need to make an entirely different world if the same old dry mechanics are at use.  Good Luck.

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  • MrEvilDrMrEvilDr Member Posts: 84
    Originally posted by Elgareth

    Errr...what are you supposed to do in such a MMO?

    You can't have equipment, you can't have any magic, you can't have almost everything...

    All you'd do would be: "Get Food! Build Hive! Feed Eggs/Larvae!"...



    I really don't see it as a MMO-RPG.

    However, some semi-MMO-RTS, thingy could work...basically, pick your Race, and build up a Hive, Colonies and so on...



    But, something that might suit you is in the works already: Spore.

    Not a classical MMO.

    What Spore does is:

    You, as Player develop your own Species, first as a One-Cell Creature, then as a Fish-like creature, then on the Land, then you control your tribe, then your city, then your civilization, then you can even go into space and colonize other planets.



    Thing is:

    As long as you have an I-Net connection, your Species is being Uploaded to a Spore Server, and Species from other Players are being downloaded, and integrated into your World as it fits. (If your world lacks Carnivores, for example, some Carnivore species is downloaded and added to your world).

    Because your Playstyle determines the Character of your Creatures later on, you sort of interact with other players. If you play very aggressively, the AI which controls your Species on other PCs will also be very aggressive.



    Spore will release somewhere ~Q1 08. Maybe you should read up some info about it, you can create your insects there ;-)

     

    Well, let's be honest, most MMORPGs have Human characters that can hold 100s of items and they don't even have a backpack on. I'm sure it people wouldn't realise that these insects shouldn't be holding items.

    I would actually like to see a game like this. Like what you described, Elgareth, only with PvE, PvP, character building etc. I've played a Warcraft 3 mod in this genre, and I loved it. Different races for different insects would actually be pretty fun. I think it would definately be possible.

  • iffymackiffymack Member Posts: 376

    Id make it like an rts style mmo.

    player made hives/ant hills or whatever that you fill with npc workers to gather resources for your colony.The resources buff everyone in a different way,depending on what is being collected.This is your 'gear'.

    Your npcs vary from basic workers ,soldiers and scouts to breeder types and queens.These could be made in crafting,along with additional parts for your home.

    Your insect life is spent by clearing npc bugs(which randomly spawn,and vary in difficulty) from other areas so your drones can farm there too. You can attack other player colonies and steal their resources,kill their workers etc and take them over.

    you could have random dangers like flooding,fire and of course kids with magnifying glasses.

    would certainly be a different and interesting move away from the usual hack n slash elf em up,if a developer ever tried somethign like it.

    Id be a millipede i think

     

     

  • MrEvilDrMrEvilDr Member Posts: 84

    Well, I could actually imagine your average 3rd person MMO.

    I would explain exactly what I think the game would be like, but I would be writing it for hours, and no one would even take the time to read it.

  • defenestratedefenestrate Member CommonPosts: 578
    Im not even going to read the OP, all I have to say is please god no!
  • devils_hymndevils_hymn Member Posts: 322

    i personally love this idea i want somthing diffrent man why dont you go learn to make mmos id p2p for a mmo like this

  • DruNk_DwArF2DruNk_DwArF2 Member UncommonPosts: 196
    Originally posted by devils_hymn


    i personally love this idea i want somthing diffrent man why dont you go learn to make mmos id p2p for a mmo like this
    Haha wish i could,hopefully this does get made one day though,would be refreshing.

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  • MrEvilDrMrEvilDr Member Posts: 84

    haha. Let's get a team together.

     

    I'm full to the brim of ideas for this.

  • vajurasvajuras Member Posts: 2,860
    this idea is kinda mind blowing and ahead of its time. I'd like to hear the ideas on how u envision everything to work. sketches would help cause its just so diff hard to imagine?
  • DruNk_DwArF2DruNk_DwArF2 Member UncommonPosts: 196
    Well if you read my post,i'm not actually going to make this or anything..Was just an idea that i would like to see be done in the future.

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  • pyrofreakpyrofreak Member UncommonPosts: 1,481
    Insects come pre-armored and armed. An ant has mandibles and an exoskeleton, so equipment wouldn't really be needed. In order to add a progressive sense into the game, I would use a skill system that increases through use.



    Your ant-avatar gets beat up by an attacking colony, but survives? He gains more health and armor value.



    He successfully kills his enemies? He gains an increase in critical hit abilities through discovering the anatomy of enemies.



    The possibilities are truly endless.

    Now with 57.3% more flames!

  • vajurasvajuras Member Posts: 2,860
    yeah but the details u listed doesnt tell me much at all. what am i supposed to do for fun? go gather food for the queen? I liked some of the ideas the others have put out though they're fleshing this concept out pretty well
  • conscript27conscript27 Member Posts: 19
    Originally posted by vajuras

    yeah but the details u listed doesnt tell me much at all. what am i supposed to do for fun? go gather food for the queen? I liked some of the ideas the others have put out though they're fleshing this concept out pretty well

    This is where you use your imagination friend. It's not like it is currently in development.

    1. You could make it an RTS

    2. give bugs a mind of there own, armor tribal stuff like there doing with that mushroom game(gamecock is publishing cant remember name).

    3. magic/tinkering with human stuff to use against your enemys. It has a great pvp concept behind it.

    Eversince i saw that bug RTS in a computer gameing monthly mag, i have had the op's idea. I think its a half-life source mod.

  • PerceptionPerception Member Posts: 188
    As with any idea, its far easier to imagine the potential of it, than it is to deliver a fun and engaging MMORPG based on it.



    Honestly, you could have an MMORPG based on amoeba if you implemented it correctly.  IMHO, game mechanics, combat dynamics, and a fully realized world determine whether or not an MMORPG is successful.



    Now, that being said, I always found insects to be real high in the "cool" factor.  I used to love my insect transformers (Insecticons!).  If a game company brought a fully fleshed out, insect based MMORPG to market, I would definitely be interested.  Some of the basic RPG classes can all easily be represented by insects. 

    Mage could be a bombardier beetle en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_beetle

    Warrior could be a rhinoceros beetle  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros_beetle

    Rogue could be an assassin bug en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin_bug

    Not really sure how to work out a healer type bug, hehe.
  • conscript27conscript27 Member Posts: 19
    Heh, i woulden't doubt that there is some kind of bug that can heal with some sort of secretion. That said, i think i'd rather have it split up into races for the pvp factor. For more of a pve game you could integrate a kinda combine of races. As seen in Bugs life and Antz.
  • nomadiannomadian Member Posts: 3,490

    there was a WC3 mod called Bugs, it was pretty good. You had to collect food, kill other bugs and also lay eggs. Sounds a bit lame but it was rather good.

  • ForcanForcan Member UncommonPosts: 700
    Interesting idea...



    It would be interesting and something that's unique in the MMO genre to design such game with the system...

    Current MMO: FFXIV:ARR

    Past MMO: Way too many (P2P and F2P)

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