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Sony wants to pull a NGE on Vanguard....wtf
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Well all the "told you so.." can come now, they were right.
when they ar emerging servers they are completely eliminating an entire server ruleset known as "team pvp" and just have a FFA pvp available.
/sigh
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It sounds like players get to move to the new free for all pvp server and if they don't like that, there is one free more to any other server.
I am by no means an SOE fan, but it sounds to me like they are making the best of a bad situation.
Sorry, but that's not an NGE. That's what's called a server merger.
If SOE suddenly got rid of most of the classes in Vanguard except for a few "iconic" ones, then you'd be getting closer to what happened to SWG. Until then, it's not even comparable.
My guild decided to not care about team PVP. If no team ruleset is available, we will make the jump to FFA.
Didn't really like teh FFA at all yesterday, but after thinking a lot about it today, i think it will be fun.
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Most I've spoken to last night plan on just leaving the game. I know of about 30 that said if it goes through then they are gone from my guild alone. Most in world chat were saying the same thing. Got two friends that have high 40's on FFA and got tired of the "gameplay" over there. They came to varking and leveled another toon instead.
IF they would make it so you cannot attack your guild mates and guilds your aligned with along with peeps in your friends list then FFA would be cool. But when you have two groups together or if your NOT grouped with your guild mates then both parties take dmg if anyone does any area attack.
The devs said they would fix the guild thing back in Feb but never have so I predict that most who go there will just end up quitting anyway.
The other way this team pvp merge has in common with the NGE is peeps don't want it and they will still do it anyway.
Well it might not be NGE for ffa-servers, pve and rp servers
But for the team-pvp servers its a complete overhaul of the combat mechanics, thus, NGE.
They should be given the option to refund all played months and gamepurchase and leave as if they would have never exsisted
People choose races for team-pvp while sometimes other races would have been better, but not available on that team etc etc.
they have spend lots of time on those characters
You cant just rule out a complete ruleset, its ignorant
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
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but anyways
SOE'ED ON
WORD LIFE LAWL SAUCE
he makes a good point there, reading on what they are doing, changing the combat aspect of things its more like the CU (combat upgrade) i never played vanguard so i would not know 100%, but from what im reading looks like a lesser version of the CU mixed with server merges.
P.S. but guess what hapened after the CU? NGE!!!!!!!!one!!one!oneeleventytwo
On the other hand Vanguard looked promising. Perhaps it will one day live up to its potential.
As a side note though, my previous post was just meant for humor since anything that has the letters NGE usually turns into the same argument that's been had about 324234 times (or more) before. I figure we are really missing out on the potential for angst over the letters CU and I would like to see them get equal air time.
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A part of the discussion is also about the grouping/guild part.
If you are in a guild you wont be able to kill eachother so that would turn out to be a new team. Care to touch anything from that part of the discussion?
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If there aren’t enough people for a team based PvP server then its no use keeping it up and running. I’m sure SOE looked at the population and made a hard decision about getting rid of it.
As far as people leaving their server, because it’s being merged with another or dissipating, I think it’s an acceptable loss. SOE wants more people to play Vanguard and they certainly aren’t getting the subscriptions they need with under populated servers. So they make a gamble that the population can’t get much worse and project for the future
Server merger is not a NGE
For the love of God, I think today's children are loosing their minds at a faster rate than any other generation.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
This is not only a server merge.
They are removing a game mechanic. They could have just merged the team PVP servers together, but instead there removing that and all servers, after the merge will now be FFA.
Won't say it's as extreme as the NGE, but it is a change in the fundmental design of certain servers. It's like WoW losing loads of subs, and having to merge servers. But instead of merging PvE with PvE, they make ALL servers PVP and merge.
What? A server merge is the ONE thing SOE didn't do...
/ponder...
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
In fact, forget the SWG!!!!
Haha, fundamental. PVP wasn't even part of the game till the last minute. It's hardly fundamental.
I feel for you guys, but it's just a server TYPE. If you guys had enough players there for them to keep supporting it'd still be around. How many people supported that server? How many played SWG? Seriously there is no comparison. It's a pvp mechanic at most, not a change across ALL servers including removing multiple class types.
Besides if there are enough of you guys that want it ask for it. You're not asking Brad McQuad for something here... It could happen.
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Since some folks in this thread seem determined to try and compare the Vangaurd server merges to anything that happened in SWG, here's a primer. First, this was the CU:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Galaxies#Combat_Upgrade
And second, this is the NGE:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Galaxies#New_Game_Enhancements
Nothing even remotely comparable to either of these has happened to Vanguard. What VG is going through is called a server merger. That's it. End of list. Please don't overreact to what is happening with VG by trying to compare it to something entirely different. With both the CU and the NGE, Star Wars Galaxies became an entirely different game than what it was at launch. That's NOT happening here. The only thing they're doing is consolidating their populations to make the server populations healthier.
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