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Ugggg! Could be good but big probs(and a couple questions)

DevonyDevony Member Posts: 278
Well I started off by playing the wrong version, the "world" version or whatever. I played and had fun, saw a lot of gold farming ads and such, but I had a lot of space to myself and tore it up for a couple hours. I thought it was really cool they had PVP servers, that would take care of the AFK botters in a hurry! (I was in the beta from a long time ago from this original version, thats how I downloaded the client but you don;t need any sort of key for this version either).



Then after reading the NA version forums, I realised I was playing the wrong version... so I proceeded to redownload the NA version from Fileplanet.



They give you a "beta key" but you don't need it, anyone can play right now. When you sign up it doesn't even ask you for a key



So I logged in, but HOLY CRAP sure there are a LOT more people playing this, and people are EVERYWHERE afk botting.. and theres no PVP server :(



The experience is kind of ruined for me now.. people are just violating this game right now.



I wish they hadn't opened it up like this.



Anyone know, is it really going P2P? That could take care of the masses that are ravaging this game while AFK.



Also, are characters getting deleted?

Currently waiting for - Perfect World English, Age of Conan

How to play Perfect World in english

Currently messing with - Requiem Online

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  • RoinRoin Member RarePosts: 3,444
    Originally posted by Devony

    Well I started off by playing the wrong version, the "world" version or whatever. I played and had fun, saw a lot of gold farming ads and such, but I had a lot of space to myself and tore it up for a couple hours. I thought it was really cool they had PVP servers, that would take care of the AFK botters in a hurry! (I was in the beta from a long time ago from this original version, thats how I downloaded the client but you don;t need any sort of key for this version either).



    Then after reading the NA version forums, I realised I was playing the wrong version... so I proceeded to redownload the NA version from Fileplanet.



    They give you a "beta key" but you don't need it, anyone can play right now. When you sign up it doesn't even ask you for a key



    So I logged in, but HOLY CRAP sure there are a LOT more people playing this, and people are EVERYWHERE afk botting.. and theres no PVP server :(



    The experience is kind of ruined for me now.. people are just violating this game right now.



    I wish they hadn't opened it up like this.



    Anyone know, is it really going P2P? That could take care of the masses that are ravaging this game while AFK.



    Also, are characters getting deleted?
    Delete.  Yes!

    P2P. Yes!



    PvP in GE consist of Faction Wars and Duels.  GE's environment wouldn't support open pvp or even really team pvp.   As everyone starts in the same city.  What you probably saw wasn't a botter either.  GE shares alot of RTS like mechanics.  Move+Attack, etc etc.   What you probably saw was someone AFK leveling.

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  • DevonyDevony Member Posts: 278
    Originally posted by Roin

    Originally posted by Devony

    Well I started off by playing the wrong version, the "world" version or whatever. I played and had fun, saw a lot of gold farming ads and such, but I had a lot of space to myself and tore it up for a couple hours. I thought it was really cool they had PVP servers, that would take care of the AFK botters in a hurry! (I was in the beta from a long time ago from this original version, thats how I downloaded the client but you don;t need any sort of key for this version either).



    Then after reading the NA version forums, I realised I was playing the wrong version... so I proceeded to redownload the NA version from Fileplanet.



    They give you a "beta key" but you don't need it, anyone can play right now. When you sign up it doesn't even ask you for a key



    So I logged in, but HOLY CRAP sure there are a LOT more people playing this, and people are EVERYWHERE afk botting.. and theres no PVP server :(



    The experience is kind of ruined for me now.. people are just violating this game right now.



    I wish they hadn't opened it up like this.



    Anyone know, is it really going P2P? That could take care of the masses that are ravaging this game while AFK.



    Also, are characters getting deleted?
    Delete.  Yes!

    P2P. Yes!



    PvP in GE consist of Faction Wars and Duels.  GE's environment wouldn't support open pvp or even really team pvp.   As everyone starts in the same city.  What you probably saw wasn't a botter either.  GE shares alot of RTS like mechanics.  Move+Attack, etc etc.   What you probably saw was someone AFK leveling.





    yea I know about the AFK leveling, thats what i meant, lol



    What a way to ruin a game :(


    Currently waiting for - Perfect World English, Age of Conan

    How to play Perfect World in english

    Currently messing with - Requiem Online

  • makiimakii Member Posts: 280
    Originally posted by Devony

    Originally posted by Roin

    Originally posted by Devony

    Well I started off by playing the wrong version, the "world" version or whatever. I played and had fun, saw a lot of gold farming ads and such, but I had a lot of space to myself and tore it up for a couple hours. I thought it was really cool they had PVP servers, that would take care of the AFK botters in a hurry! (I was in the beta from a long time ago from this original version, thats how I downloaded the client but you don;t need any sort of key for this version either).



    Then after reading the NA version forums, I realised I was playing the wrong version... so I proceeded to redownload the NA version from Fileplanet.



    They give you a "beta key" but you don't need it, anyone can play right now. When you sign up it doesn't even ask you for a key



    So I logged in, but HOLY CRAP sure there are a LOT more people playing this, and people are EVERYWHERE afk botting.. and theres no PVP server :(



    The experience is kind of ruined for me now.. people are just violating this game right now.



    I wish they hadn't opened it up like this.



    Anyone know, is it really going P2P? That could take care of the masses that are ravaging this game while AFK.



    Also, are characters getting deleted?
    Delete.  Yes!

    P2P. Yes!



    PvP in GE consist of Faction Wars and Duels.  GE's environment wouldn't support open pvp or even really team pvp.   As everyone starts in the same city.  What you probably saw wasn't a botter either.  GE shares alot of RTS like mechanics.  Move+Attack, etc etc.   What you probably saw was someone AFK leveling.





    yea I know about the AFK leveling, thats what i meant, lol



    What a way to ruin a game :(



      ruin what? not everyone likes to spend 500h to get 1 lvl more! afk botting is a good thing, better would be if u could turn off your pc and it would still bot for u.
  • DevonyDevony Member Posts: 278
    its retarded, and I doubt many people will agree with you.. yes some automation is fine, but 500 bots in a cave AFK leveling is ridiculous.

    Currently waiting for - Perfect World English, Age of Conan

    How to play Perfect World in english

    Currently messing with - Requiem Online

  • OrphesOrphes Member UncommonPosts: 3,039
    Originally posted by Devony

    its retarded, and I doubt many people will agree with you.. yes some automation is fine, but 500 bots in a cave AFK leveling is ridiculous.



    The thing is that it is not 500 bots leveling, and AFK leveling is really really slow.

    Retarded, why, just because many games don't allow it to be done in their games system. Or is it because you just don't like it to be done. And as when you go to higher levels and other spots AFK leveling is not that plausible.

    There is more inte the games mechanic then that.

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  • boommer99boommer99 Member UncommonPosts: 309
    All of k2's servers are pvp servers.  there is open pvp warfare once you are above family level 6.

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  • AlthiaAlthia Member Posts: 32
    First off there are clan v clan wars which is all over except in town.  As far as afking... the pvp will take care of that.  I am 50+ and am still afking in open beta but its over night and i may get one or 2 lvls doing that but its a toss up.



    IF you don't like botting or afking then maybe you should think about a different game but this is America and a vast majority of people don't want to spend time xping they would rather war, quest, or pvp.



    I personally think its awesome.  It will help all the people who join the game late to catch up to at least lvl 50 and maybe further if your good about the number of families and such that your hunting with.  So far guildies have been able to go over night up to 60 with out a problem but then again we hunt in groups so trains and mass spawn don't phase us much.....



    Oh side note there three channel for every server so there is bound to be a spot to xp for just about everyone ^_^
  • NanoukNanouk Member Posts: 2
    It's semi hard to AFK level in GE. Botting maybe... but AFK leveling with the basic mechanics of the game is near impossible.



    If you AFK in Defensive mode for 4 minutes you get a warning. You are removed from the server after 5 minutes.



    I suppose you could cast a spell every 4 minutes, but that's still not exactly AFKing since you have to be there at least every 4 minutes.
  • OrphesOrphes Member UncommonPosts: 3,039
    Originally posted by Nanouk

    It's semi hard to AFK level in GE. Botting maybe... but AFK leveling with the basic mechanics of the game is near impossible.



    If you AFK in Defensive mode for 4 minutes you get a warning. You are removed from the server after 5 minutes.



    I suppose you could cast a spell every 4 minutes, but that's still not exactly AFKing since you have to be there at least every 4 minutes.

    This is in the SOTNW

    Check out lock mode in the settings.

    Disable that and you can go to defensive mode without the 5 minutes timer. But with a notification of that is some mob throws a fear at you your mode will cancel leaving your squad standing still doing nothing. Same goes for hold mode. So this will make your squad dead in the end, most certainly.

    With it enabled you could go to Hold mode first hoping that you wont be feared (or something else not only fear breaks the current mode) in near future. Afterwards the hold mode will be canceled and 'lock mode' will set your squad in defensive and also starting the 5 minute timer.

    I think it is a fresh idea, countering the tedium in getting highest level, and hope they won't redue it to much.

    EDIT: Noting that actively grinding mobs will get one to level way much faster. 

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  • pkim96pkim96 Member Posts: 168
    My one concern about attempts to reduce AFK leveling is the impact on just how long that makes the grind.  There is no way the developers of GE don't know about the rampant AFK leveling.  That makes me think that the experience tables were raised as a result.  If you remove AFK leveling, players are left with a HUGE grind.



    Unlike normal MMO's, it isn't just one toon you are leveling.  Many people don't stick with only 3 characters all the time.  With all the recruitable NPC's and the 5 stock professions, that is potentially the worst grind of any game ever.
  • RoinRoin Member RarePosts: 3,444
    Originally posted by pkim96

    My one concern about attempts to reduce AFK leveling is the impact on just how long that makes the grind.  There is no way the developers of GE don't know about the rampant AFK leveling.  That makes me think that the experience tables were raised as a result.  If you remove AFK leveling, players are left with a HUGE grind.



    Unlike normal MMO's, it isn't just one toon you are leveling.  Many people don't stick with only 3 characters all the time.  With all the recruitable NPC's and the 5 stock professions, that is potentially the worst grind of any game ever.
    People have been afk leveling in GE since the original version (The Korean version) hit Closed Beta 1.  While the developers probably don't encourage it.  They haven't done anything to stop it.  Because like someone said earlier it's much slower then normal leveling.  Not to mention if you are AFK leveling, you aren't looting anything.  (Unless you are looping)  Not to mention there are alot of things that can just go terrible wrong when you aren't there to keep eye on your family.  Even further then that who is AFK leveling really hurting?  No one except the people that use it too often.



    They are usually the people you see on the forums whining about i'm level x and this zone is also for level x characters.  But the mobs in it keep kicking my butt.  Or the people that complain about a better way to make money.  In GE/SOTNW drops are a LARGE part of your total income.  AFK Leveling = No drops for you!  Meaning no Unique weapons, no armors, no items.  Nada, ziltch, zero.



    You don't get funds like this:





    By being AFK, but if people want to go the AFK level route.  More power to them.  Hence why I have a problem with K2's version of it.  They are warping the game mechanics like they are broken.  They aren't.  If people want to waste their time AFK Leveling let them.   I'll be the family wearing the best armor and weapons for everyone in my family, and i'll be the the one kicking your arse in the duel.  Because I know how my classes and stances work down to a fine art.

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    In Peace - Vigilance.
    In Death - Sacrifice.

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