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SWG 6 Months From Now?
Evelknievel
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Where do you think this game will be 6 months down the road?
With the introduction to Beast Master (Chapter 6) and the upcoming (Chapter 7), do you think there is still A NEW HOPE for this
game to return close to its former glory 6 months from now? Especially new games on the horizon like Tabula Rasa, AoC and
Warhmmer Online that will also affect many older MMO's out there.
As we all know, alot of veterans like myself have returned after many years just to see whats going on. Some do stay, some still
leave with digust. I am just curious on your thoughts and where do you think SWG is heading.
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I honestly don't know. To truly bring back the game's former glory, they'll have to ditch iconic classes in favor of the old skill system, they'll need to throw away overt levels and bring back the virtual world. I hate levels with a passion, I want a rancor to hit for what a rancor hits for, regardless of who is on the other end, be it a newbie novice artisan or a TKM/MSmuggler.
They're not going to do that, I don't think.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
The game itself, might get better. I'll give the new dev team this, some of their ideas are decent. Problem is implementation. Look at Chapter 6. As a result of things like BM, many/most economies are all FUBAR. The quality of the resources necessary, as well as the limited amounts of DNA for certain pets has driven it up. Look at Storyteller as well. Great idea. On Ahazi, they've been doing some really cool factional battles. But guess what else they're doing? Making bridges over the gap in the Krayt Graveyard, cutting off the ends, and soloing Krayts. Obviously not intended.
Still, at this point, short of a rollback (Which I hope for everyday, just like I hope my lottery ticket is a winner), there isn't much they could be doing better. However, this game is 4 years old. New games are on the horizon. This game isn't going to probably keep the population its at for much longer. Lets face it. The game is dying, whether that be caused by the NGE or not (I'm of the opinion that while it was dying before hand, the NGE fired a couple bullets into it, speeding the process quite a bit).
Not much we can do about it. I'm here for a bit of the ride, not sure how much more, though.
We barely remember who or what came before this precious moment;
We are choosing to be here right now -Tool, Parabola
How exactly are the economies fubar? Because the prices seem high to you?
A roll back of the game to pre-nge (lol, a 2 year roll back at this point...) would do nothing but kill the game. It's NEVER going to happen. People have been saying the game is dying for the last 2-3 years and over the last month and a bit it's actually been growing. Yes, there are new MMO's been coming out and there have been plenty in the past that people have claimed will be "the final blow to SWG." The only one to dent SWG was WoW when it was released. Every other MMO that people have made this claim about never turned out to be any kind of threat. Lol, remember Vanguard and all the people saying that it would kill SWG?
If they keep up with the Chapters like 5 & 6, SWG will be in a pretty good place by the end of the year.
How exactly are the economies fubar? Because the prices seem high to you? Umm, no, not really. I was refering to the fact, that at least on my server, we have stuff like say, an 8-9 unrefined hydro, going on the market anywhere from a couple mil to eleventy billion. Geothermal power prices are all over the place. Lyase Enzymes are as well. And picking up on another new feature on Chapter 6, Treasure maps. I remember just after it hit live, I could sell one of those for 5 mil. The price since then has nosedived to 750k. Now eventually this stuff will stabilize, I'm just saying, as of right now, things are all fracked up.
A roll back of the game to pre-nge (lol, a 2 year roll back at this point...) would do nothing but kill the game. It's NEVER going to happen. Really? You don't say! Maybe that might of been why I used the lottery ticket analogy...... And would it be good for the game at this point? On a grand scale, I suppose not. But for me personally, I would enjoy the game more. It is just my opinion. Maybe I should've made that more clear. People have been saying the game is dying for the last 2-3 years and over the last month and a bit it's actually been growing. Yes, it picked up a few subs, me included. What I was stating, is that, no matter what, once a game starts reaching a certain age, it loses subs. Its just a fact of life. The game is never going to be back anywhere near it was, there is no sense in trying to act like it will be. The population as of right now on the active servers is at a decently medium level. Its not as bad as many vets say, but it sure as hell isn't as good as a lot of current subscribers sugarcoat it with. Yes, there are new MMO's been coming out and there have been plenty in the past that people have claimed will be "the final blow to SWG." The only one to dent SWG was WoW when it was released. Every other MMO that people have made this claim about never turned out to be any kind of threat. Lol, remember Vanguard and all the people saying that it would kill SWG? Yeah, I remember. I didn't think Vanguard would kill it. I never said ONE would kill it. I'm saying that over the passage of the next few mmo releases, you WILL see some amount of bleeding, because thats the business.
If they keep up with the Chapters like 5 & 6, SWG will be in a pretty good place by the end of the year. It'll be decent, yes. Thats why I'm subscribed. It won't be near what it used to be, but its still a pretty decent game, and the new Devs have potential, Like I already stated, if they can work a little on certain things.
We barely remember who or what came before this precious moment;
We are choosing to be here right now -Tool, Parabola
Been there and had the coffee already, Star Wars will always be here, whether bad mmo or good mmo. This will never change. This game will always have enough subs to keep the game going, its frickin Star Wars bro. If this game had a different name, it would probably be hanging by threads or gone by now like Horizons.
I know your enititled to your opinion which is why I created this thread, but this thread was not meant to start another hate bash on this game. There is another section for disgruntle SWG players as you well know.
Anyways, back on the main topic, I am noticed more people coming back to the game in small doses, I believe people are starting to burnout with alot of the Wizard and Knight Fantasy MMOs and decided to change scenaries from fanatasy to Sci-Fi. With Age of Conan, Warhammer Online and Tabula Rasa (Sci-Fi) only 1 Sci-Fi and 2 more Fantasy MMOs, I think SWG will still be in good shape by the end of this year and SWG still looks promising
And I will post anywhere I please. The topic was about where SWG was going to be 6 months from now and I told you what I thought as someone who actively plays modern, well constructed MMO's put together and operated by companies that actually care what people want. If you don't like my opinion don't read it. Doesn't make it any less valid.
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Chapter 6 is nice but 7 won't be much interesting, guess the game won't get much further.. 6 months is too short, they need at least a year.
Won't get close to its former glory, that 'chance' has been blown out of the window in Nov. 2005
Which games are those ?
Vangaurd lol
LOTRO - 1-max level in 2 weeks your first time playing
Tabula Rasa ? FPS
pirates no thanks
Conan - we will see but alot of ppl are tired of Fantasy land. swords and daggers and weezards ohh my
The market is interesting right now as there are games coming out but they are really slicing up the industry in different ways, i.e. FPS MMOs etc.
There may just be a little spot for SWG to stick around
-Allegria
no offense, but in 6 months from now there will be games like age of conan or warhammer online
I think in 6 months, NGE-Star Wars Galaxies will have half of its customers left (can that even be possible, considering how less are left?) and only hardcore star wars fans will still stick with NGE-SWG.
SOE had its chance, its over now. in 2 years after the NGE they did not receive the level where we could say "okay this game has turned into what the community really wanted, even better than pre-cu"
they simply failed. they safed money instead of getting skilled programmers who were able to turn this game into something better.
and to be honest I really dont care anymore, Im just looking forward for age of conan to be released
I dont even visit the offical swg boards anymore.
and its really said that the only thing people will keep in memory, when they look back is pre-cu star wars galaxies... the real star wars galaxies
"You must be either retarded or a fanboi..."
If the game has'nt dissolved by now, it never will, there will always be people playing Star Wars, because it just Star Wars, not Horizon, its not Monkey Ballz MMO or Kangaroos of War MMO, believe me, I was as digusted as any other vet in the past, but the fact remains. The game Star Wars has a following and lore as well. It ain'nt going nowhere, it took me 3 years to figure this out.
People know the movie lines, they know the actors, there kids, kids already know what a Lightsaber is. It came out in the 70s, way before most of you were even born. Future Star War animated shows, current animated shows, books and novels for pete sake.
Now you can tell me I am wrong and in my face, if this does happen, but SWG is going to be around a bit longer than we think. Even with the New MMO's coming out. Because its FRICKIN Star Wars!
The devs could grind this game into oblivion and there will always be enough subs to keep this game going, no offense to other mmos like Ultima Online, Everquest, DAoC etc etc (the pioneers of the mmo games), but they are still around and dont seem to be going anywhere or anyplace, anytime soon. If they still can charge $14.99 a month for a game over 8 years old, well you get the picture, there will always be a Star Wars whether you hate the MMO or not.
I agree with parts of what greenhell and lateris say.
Overall in six months, not to much is going to be any different. MMO changes are very gradual. They may have added a chap or something. The SWG forum wars will continue: Vets will still clamor for the game to die, players will defend it, most people who don't play, don't care anymore at this point.
You can see parts of what lateris said happening, slowly they are rebuilding some of the old games features and some of the vets are easing back into the game. Since there really isn't anything technically wrong with the game (unlike the parade of trainwrecks of the past 2 years) and it has a very good scope of play, its going to keep attracting new players as it has.
Its never going to be a top game, its just to old and to beat up but it will chug along.
Say what you want, people are playing it and thats not going to change anytime soon.
http://www.xfire.com/cms/stats/
Yes i thought graphics where dated when i did nt have the right system for it, but you have to realize that there is a very BIG DOG on trhe block that truly has VERY DATED grphics called WOW don't see you complain about that. Oh wait cause its a fun game graphics seem nt to matter to some of you. Well SWG is far from dated, you could actualy say its about right to be played at high end systems about now.
I recall my having a high end system 1800 or 2000 AMD with a 5700 geforce card and yes that was high end at beta/release period of SWG and man did performance suck at the time but it did look okay and still was fun. Did quit during CU or maybe slighty before CU and yes was pissed as lost many things from stuff till skills.
2 weeks ago i sortof returned as its still on my stationpass as i was playing Vanguard but sci-fi overall with gaming (aswell movies, tv series) atracted me more. And now that i have a current high-end (well atleast last year it still was
) seeing the game now makes me understand that the game was visualy just not ready when it was released.
So basic fact for those who state the graphics are dated is to get your self some better gear to play it with, or alteast try and play more then 1 game so you're are able to judge indeed if a game looked dated. If you people would say graphics of AO (which is a fine game) are dated then YES we all can confirm that regardless who has great fuin with that game we know that. But to say or think SWG looks dated only tells more about the systems some want to try playing the game then them trying to be realistic.
Vanguard in a way does look much better, but performance is somewhat pre-cu SWG so basicly like almost 20 years in gaming history always will repeat itselfs and games made will most of the time be ahead of time. But its the inpatient and wierd set of gamers without any experiance with games or hardware who will always complain abnout things that make no sense, just like these strange people saying its a NICHY game as WE ALL KNOW MMO's regardless which one are all NICHY
Make + 5 Billion gamers MMORPG gamers and we wont have to call MMO's NICHY but aslong we only have the minority of gamers playig MMO it will always be NICHY, funny some thing specific mmo's are nichy and some arn;'t as the whole mmo scene is nichy compared to pc gameing and pc gaming is Nichy compared to console gamers. So wake-upo and try and be realistic to the games you play and don't act like some blinded hater who does not seem to understand either tech or mmo's.
Yes SWG seems to have some issues, market is good if you A: are already rich, B: start the game with already friends in it C if you just embrace the game for what it is.
Also take this advice, try SWG if you're a VET as a new SWG game try to forget the missery we all felt at the time, makes a much better experiance getting back in the game.
Now take my real advice get into a game you like or try and be contructive , either way get a grip at reality and understand their always be games that some will like and some don't but stop pretenting things that simple arn't their like you saying stuff about dated graphics, sorry makes you look abit silly to be honost. No get your gear ready and move on bro
Mordah - Level 70 Female Night Elf Hunter.
When they make such a game I imagine.
When I play swg, I enjoy myself... when I log out, I look forward to the next time I can log in. If that's being 'had' then I would hate to know what was happening to me when I payed 50 bucks for WoW, and then for Lotro, and didn't enjoy them at all.
If you like PvP and have an elder Jedi by all means come back. Otherwise save your money.
If you like PvP and have an elder Jedi by all means come back. Otherwise save your money.
Not having a problem soloing with my alt at all. Now how has chapter 6 destroyed PVE?
I created a new toon from CL1 and already at CL43. Unfortunately you cant kill things 20 levels higher than you anymore, but where does that make sense.
Its all about questing to get your levels faster. If you want to mob grind, go ahead, its just going to take longer. No more soloing 10 Pickets and using a AOE attack to burn them all down at once.
If your talking about Themes like DWB (Death Watch Bunker), Rebel Theme Park and Geo Caves. Well unfortanetly you gotta deal with elites now and with a group. But last time I checked, this is where you get the better loot anyway, and who said it should be easy to get.
Forget what you know about the old SWG like a old girlfriend and move onto something else or enjoy the game for what it is now.
QFE. This guy has nailed it. Chapter 6 has destroyed PVE for everyone I play with. A few elder Jedi came back for PvP. There's nothing else worth doing. We're back to a horrible hybrid between CU and NGE and it's unplayable unless you want to PvP all the time.If you like PvP and have an elder Jedi by all means come back. Otherwise save your money.
Not having a problem soloing with my alt at all. Now how has chapter 6 destroyed PVE?
I created a new toon from CL1 and already at CL43. Unfortunately you cant kill things 20 levels higher than you anymore, but where does that make sense.
Its all about questing to get your levels faster. If you want to mob grind, go ahead, its just going to take longer. No more soloing 10 Pickets and using a AOE attack to burn them all down at once.
If your talking about Themes like DWB (Death Watch Bunker), Rebel Theme Park and Geo Caves. Well unfortanetly you gotta deal with elites now and with a group. But last time I checked, this is where you get the better loot anyway, and who said it should be easy to get.
Forget what you know about the old SWG like a old girlfriend and move onto something else or enjoy the game for what it is now.
Yes, all those little things that used to be entertaining for a CL90 and/or his guild are garbage now. -RAW- did Mustafar and DWB runs as a guild daily. Go by those locations now. That sound you hear is the crickets chirping as nothing happens.
Enjoy leveling your character by all means. Then you can PvP or . . . nothing.
I'm glad some folks like Chapter 6, but the PVE changes are a huge mistake. 60 days will prove this true.
Finally, you're right I can't wait for Age of Conan or Pirates of the Burning Sea.