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There is no surprises in the MMO market anymore

SariahSariah Member Posts: 161
in The Pub at MMORPG.COM
Kind of sucks... every game being made you know about it a year and a half or more in advance. Every game promises multiple STATE OF THE ART features and most of them arn't as great as advertised. All Mmo's are to similar. Hopefully ending 2007 and going into the future of mmo's the companies can surprise us again... I miss a MMO being a free world like early UO for PVP, stealing from players or playing the game with teams. I dont care anyones opinion on PVP or being able to be robbed its because they CARE BEARED all the games that they are so boring and lack life these days. BRING BACK FREE WILL AND YOU WILL HAVE A GAME WORTH PLAYING!

Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO
Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO
Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic

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  • devilbanedevilbane Member Posts: 103
    The worst problem with the online games today that makes them feel so.... "exactly the same"... seems to be a lack of story, lore, and background.



    Look at the HUGE hits of yesteryear... my god EverQuest had lore, story driven events, GODS... and you had to DEFEAT some of those Gods... you could play the "good" side or the "bad" side, and you had free will to prove yourself to either side, no matter your race! For awhile my High Elf Cleric was FRIENDLY with the Dark elves, and my hometown wanted to kill me on sight! THAT is letting me have freewill!!!



    Today the "RPG" has been totally removed from MMORPG... and most of the people at this site refuse to even call them MMORPGs anymore because there is no roleplay, no real story to drive the game, and almost nothing for backdrop and background aside from graphics...



    My GOD look at Warcraft! The RTS were RICH in character and story, and the original backstory was ENGAGING and had a breath of LIFE about it!!!! But as they developed it into an Online game, these elements were... just... gelded out of it... and as far as freedom goes... have you ever seen an Undead that swore fealty to the Alliance? But how cool would it be if you COULD take your Human Warlock, and serve the Dark Queen, and live in Tim Burton Land... I MEAN... the Undercity?



    Until the companies form the BACKBONE to create a vision, and STICK to that vision, and give us, the gamers, a real story, and a living world that we can relate to, and feel like we can impact... well... every single game is going to feel exactly the same.

    And as long as the companies allow the whiny, loudmouthed know-nothing players to dictate what "they want", and reshape the game to conform to them... well all know-nothing n00bs want the same things... so all these games will be identical.
  • defenestratedefenestrate Member CommonPosts: 578
    I bet you would be surprised when the first time you load up the game the opening screen is just a pair of huge hairy balls.
  • SariahSariah Member Posts: 161
    yeah that would be a surprise but then some overbearing mother somewhere who got the same image would use the GTA Hot Coffee lawsuit to shut that company down..... Then again if you could select the gender for the private part displayed then that might make a difference too..

    Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO
    Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO
    Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic

  • devilbanedevilbane Member Posts: 103
    Originally posted by Sariah

    yeah that would be a surprise but then some overbearing mother somewhere who got the same image would use the GTA Hot Coffee lawsuit to shut that company down..... Then again if you could select the gender for the private part displayed then that might make a difference too..
    I think the world could be ready for the game in question Sariah!

    I mean... they have that god awful RedLightDistrict nonsense...

    -WORST- MMORPG ever.
  • SariahSariah Member Posts: 161
    If there was a end of days coming that wasn't strictly global warming ... it's coming soon Nuff Said.

    Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO
    Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO
    Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic

  • freiheitfreiheit Member Posts: 264
    Originally posted by devilbane



    Until the companies form the BACKBONE to create a vision, and STICK to that vision, and give us, the gamers, a real story, and a living world that we can relate to, and feel like we can impact... well... every single game is going to feel exactly the same.

    And as long as the companies allow the whiny, loudmouthed know-nothing players to dictate what "they want", and reshape the game to conform to them... well all know-nothing n00bs want the same things... so all these games will be identical.

     

    This is ironic considering you're the guy who thinks companies should do whatever it takes to satisfy the bottom line.

  • freiheitfreiheit Member Posts: 264
    Originally posted by devilbane

    Originally posted by freiheit

    Originally posted by devilbane



    Until the companies form the BACKBONE to create a vision, and STICK to that vision, and give us, the gamers, a real story, and a living world that we can relate to, and feel like we can impact... well... every single game is going to feel exactly the same.

    And as long as the companies allow the whiny, loudmouthed know-nothing players to dictate what "they want", and reshape the game to conform to them... well all know-nothing n00bs want the same things... so all these games will be identical.

     

    This is ironic considering you're the guy who thinks companies should do whatever it takes to satisfy the bottom line.

    Wait a minute, you think that because I support free enterprise of THIS WEBSITE you get to shove words in my mouth?

    Seriously... STFU.

    I mean, I never EVER said any such nonsense.

    Keep your pathetic, SLANDEROUS flaming in the proper forum at least.



    Are you 8 years old and THAT angry that I smacked you into your place in another thread?



    Wow more constructive posts, well done. Reported.

     

    With that said, you probably won't see much new innovation in MMO's until companies get past the WoW clone stage. More failed Vanguard type games should send the message.

  • SamuraiswordSamuraisword Member Posts: 2,111

    What's surprising is that people complain of a lack of quality MMOGs and yet seem to be subscribed to one or more of the craptastic games out there, because they can't seem to occupy their time with single box substitutes for the time being.

    I haven't subscribed to a MMOG for 2 years since leaving WoW. As long as people keep paying for sucky MMOGs, the developers will keep making them.

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  • SariahSariah Member Posts: 161
    online... internet.... tattle tails..... wtf.... somebody needs to get some

    Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO
    Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO
    Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic

  • freiheitfreiheit Member Posts: 264
    Originally posted by devilbane

    Um... you flame me because you were mad from ANOTHER thread...

    and then you report me???



    k...



    I sent you an email to take YOUR issue with me off the forum and out of other people's threads.

    Whenever you decide to stop being childish you can do the same.

    I didn't "flame" you one bit, which is painfully obvious. I pointed out that your philosophy seems to be contradictory. What you claim to believe here isn't consistent with everything else you've said...thought that was clear.  Try to be consistent or honest, because you're not doing either. Also I'm not angry at all, you're the one typing in cool caps and using insults.

    Stop using insults and flying off the handle, maybe cut down ont he posting and think before you type.

  • SariahSariah Member Posts: 161
    I agree completly samurai sword... I bought and played COV last year, VG (Big Mistake) and LOTRO this year. COV and LOTRO are decent games but couldnt keep me interested past lvl 26... ironicly I quit playing at that level on both... I guess it took that long to know the substance and gameplay I was searching for will not be available. But NOW for the first time supposedly games are coming out that are SKILL based and this makes me incredibly happy... if there was just a game as fun to play as STAR CRAFT was... I mean my god actually having to use strategy or die was so fun back in the day. I spent complete nights up playing ....

    Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO
    Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO
    Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic

  • SariahSariah Member Posts: 161
    Originally posted by freiheit

    Originally posted by devilbane

    Um... you flame me because you were mad from ANOTHER thread...

    and then you report me???



    k...



    I sent you an email to take YOUR issue with me off the forum and out of other people's threads.

    Whenever you decide to stop being childish you can do the same.

    I didn't "flame" you one bit, which is painfully obvious. I pointed out that your philosophy seems to be contradictory. What you claim to believe here isn't consistent with everything else you've said...thought that was clear.  Try to be consistent or honest, because you're not doing either. Also I'm not angry at all, you're the one typing in cool caps and using insults.

    Stop using insults and flying off the handle, maybe cut down ont he posting and think before you type.


    Hey man save your heart felt messages for private conversations ... stop flaming my post with this tear jerking garbage. sorry for the double post!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO
    Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO
    Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic

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