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Leveling on PvP? Is it a Pain

SomeOldBlokeSomeOldBloke Member UncommonPosts: 2,167
I've leveled 3 toons to 60 on a PvE Server (Hunter, Warlock and Rogue) and was thinking of starting again on a PvP server. I was wondering how much of a pain is it to level in the contested zones and how much does it slow your leveling time compared with PvE Servers.



Thanks in advance for your help.

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  • PerceptionPerception Member Posts: 188
    I think you are looking at this from the wrong perspective.  On a PvP server, random encounters with enemy players while you are questing or grinding should be part of the draw of the game, not a hindrance to your leveling.  If you don't like the prospect of getting ganked, zerged, or otherwise just "pwned" while going about your business, then you may want to rethink your reasons for rolling on a PvP server.



  • ElgarethElgareth Member Posts: 588
    Yeah, where's the sense in joining a PvP Server if you don't want open PvP?



    Battlegrounds, Arenas and so on are all on PvE, too...



    Sooo uuuhh, I don't think a PvP Server is for you.
  • SomeOldBlokeSomeOldBloke Member UncommonPosts: 2,167
    Did I say anywhere that I didn't like PvP?



    I was asking for a comparison between the two server types at higher levels.
  • ElgarethElgareth Member Posts: 588
    Well, depends on the Server...

    Generally you should be able to lvl with relative ease, as most PvP Zones have some sort of "peace treaty" (You don't hinder me from lvling, I don't hinder you from lvling)...



    But you shouldn't think "How much slower will I be in lvling", you should think "How much fun could I have lvling with the thrill of being vulnerable all the time?"
  • GresloreGreslore Member Posts: 243
    Not a pain at all, its more fun - at least for me.  

    "...and with that cryptic comment, I'm off to bed!"

  • PB&JPB&J Member Posts: 255

    I have leveled a few characters on PvP servers. Rarely do you find yourself in a fair world PvP situation. You are either outnumbered or outleveled by your attacker. 90% of the time it is one of these scenarios that determine the outcome of an encounter. That, or you are the one doing the ganking. Leveling on a PvP server is simply slower and more frustrating.

    You can find all the PvP you want on a PvE server via the BG's or just by simply turning your PvP flag on. I see no point in rolling a new character on a PvP server unless you get a joy out of ganging up on newbies or attacking grey con pc's.

  • trivium_171trivium_171 Member Posts: 6

    If you dont like the aspect of getting ganked...then go to an RP server.... or just stay with a PvE server, although ganking does give me much satisfaction. Especially when they run

    I personaly feel that it incorporates more edge into the game..

    dont ever use the words rune and scape in a sentence...*shudders*

  • AntipathyAntipathy Member UncommonPosts: 1,362
    This will vary a lot by server, by faction, and by whereabouts you are questing. Some classes (e.g. rogues) are ganked more often, partly because the ganker reasons "this person rolled a rogue so he can gank other people. Lets punish him for it." Being randomly killed by a high level whilst questing really isn't that much of a problem. A quick corpse run and you're back in business. However there are a few things that may slow you down more:



    i) Corpse camping. This is comparatively rare on my server, which is RPPVP rather than pure PvP. If it ever happens I can normally find a way to escape in 2-3 tries. If not, I can log to an alt and continue playing. People with a bad reputation amongst the oppositon, e.g. due to being a member of a ganking guild, may find themselves corpse camped considerably more often.



    ii) Camping of instance entrances. This is more of a pain, and can easily lead to guilds putting each-other on their kill-on-sight list.  General the campers can stop summoning via the meeting stone, although when everyone shows up under their own steam it's normally still possible to enter the instance after a couple of corpse runs.



    iii) Interruption of escort quests. It's best to do escort quests late-at-night when not many people are logged on. Otherwise you could spend twenty minutes on the quest, be really close to completing it, and then be ganked by a rogue appearing from nowhere. Of course, you could just choose to avoid doing this type of quest.



    iv) Revenge. Big time consumer. After I've been ganked a few times, I sometimes go out on a revenge trip, randomly killing any member of the oppositon who isn't grey to me. Preferably hitting them from behind or whilst they are on low health / mana. This often works better with a partner along. Of course, they then try to get revenge on you,  so expect a few corpse runs, but hey - it's fun and that's what STV is there for.



    Overall I'd say the slowdown is comparatively minor. Maybe 10-20%. By the time the levels start getting difficult to acquire (50+) most players have worked out that they progress faster if they leave each-other alone, rather than do the revenge thing, and hence there is an informal mutual ceasefire.
  • RadiationStormRadiationStorm Member Posts: 120
    I've quit quite some time ago, but when I began playing early 2005 I too was planning to go pvp server. Beforehand I read tons of whining, worrying and warning about how dangerous it was and how little advancement one made on these types of servers. Well in a way this constant threat was what I wanted but tbh it really never was that bad or terrifying. The only place where I constantly ran into trouble with each char was Stranglethorn. Sometimes it's fun, sometimes it's annoying. One reason I suppose is because quite a few higher lvld chars pass through there, but the main reason is probably that it's an open pvp zone and both side's quests overlap tremendously. Stranglethorn is also the place what the person above me called 'Revenge'. I've been attacked and often ganked in BB, at the gates of BB, near the bridge north, the gorillas south, the road of course, but the most dangerous place was always near GG with that dwarf who gives one the animal quests. You'll constantly run into fights there. Sometimes one even manages to sort of make armistice with a few players only to find oneself attacked again once they've completed their quests or someone else joins them. But of course everything that goes around comes around and I've done my fair bit of making life hell in ST too. But that's basically how things are in ST, one group attacks ppl, those take revenge on some others, vice versa, repeat all the way through, untill both sides butcher themselves for 20 odd minutes outside BB/GG/dwarf camp. High levels drop by and the party is over.

    That aside though, you'll eventually level out of there and the other regions really aren't that bad. Yes, you'll get ganked, cc from time to time, even as a higher player by all these innocent greys, but overall leveling on a pvp server is manageable and fun imho. If things get to rough you can always call in help or perhaps the best idea if you really are making a new char, start on a newer server with less bored high lvls who'll try to make your life hard. But overall I wouldn't join any other server, it really was loads of fun and I miss it.
  • JoliustJoliust Member Posts: 1,329

    It can be really really frustrating sometimes but usually it isn't a big deal. If your getting ganked bad you either gotta stop playing for a while, or check out a new area, or just keep going out and risking it. However, I think the ability to PvP is worth it.

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  • KaylessKayless Member UncommonPosts: 365

    On a RPPVP server here and it's all good fun, I have some chars on a normal PvE server and it just doesn't feel right.

    As has been mentioned the thrill of being out exposed when hunting is what it's all about, panning like mad, did I see someone? I thought I saw a red tag over there... hehe

    Yes STV is the worst zone ever, but, you do get used to it after you've battled through it on a few chars. You realise it's going to happen so it gets less frustrating, and yes, there's always payback!

  • AseenusAseenus Member UncommonPosts: 1,844
    Originally posted by Perception

    I think you are looking at this from the wrong perspective.  On a PvP server, random encounters with enemy players while you are questing or grinding should be part of the draw of the game, not a hindrance to your leveling.  If you don't like the prospect of getting ganked, zerged, or otherwise just "pwned" while going about your business, then you may want to rethink your reasons for rolling on a PvP server.





    even though i agree with u and u are correct, it actually does slow down ur leveling big time

    if u simply wanna level so u could do end game content a pve server is 10 times quicker

    but ill stick to my pvp servers tyvm im no carebear :)
  • RadiationStormRadiationStorm Member Posts: 120
    Originally posted by Kayless


    On a RPPVP server here and it's all good fun, I have some chars on a normal PvE server and it just doesn't feel right.
    As has been mentioned the thrill of being out exposed when hunting is what it's all about, panning like mad, did I see someone? I thought I saw a red tag over there... hehe
    Yes STV is the worst zone ever, but, you do get used to it after you've battled through it on a few chars. You realise it's going to happen so it gets less frustrating, and yes, there's always payback!
    Definitely. Even lvld out I'd often go back to ST for retribution or helping out my faction's guys knowing how hard it is over there. I never really got sick of fighting in ST, be it with my rogue strolling or mage killing, then cubing in BB. But my most fond memory was probably when some 4-5 ppl ganked me outside BB, then went on to fight that giant and were so close to defeating him and we ended the quest prematurely. It's the best!
  • JoliustJoliust Member Posts: 1,329

    Ahhh yes, STV was my favorite place to lvl. You gotta love all the great battles.

    Sent me an email if you want me to mail you some pizza rolls.

  • b0rderline99b0rderline99 Member Posts: 1,441
    certain places can get really hostile (but thats part of the fun) like STV, the XR, etc.

    but i found leveling more fun on PVP servers because of the excitement factor
  • SpoonSpoon Member UncommonPosts: 21

    It really only gets bad from level 30 to 45, maybe 50, after that people are spread out more in differant zones..

    STV, will either make you, or break you.........

  • tenthringtenthring Member Posts: 173
    There is no world PvP on a PvP server.



    1-58 is a ghost town.  you may not even see another person, let alone have pvp.



    outlands is infested with high level guards, so if you are anywhere near a town you are safe.



    you might get ganked a few times in outlands.  not a big deal.
  • RoyspiRoyspi Member Posts: 202

    The problem with a pvp server for me was that over half the people you try and engage in pvp with (same level even!) run from you. That and world pvp has been so scarce since BGs. TBC helped a little bit but its still hard to find people willing to fight. I mean sure, you still kill the runner most of the time, but whats the fun in that?

    Once you hit 70 your pvp encounters go way down. Instead of seeing you at a lower level and going YAY FRESH MEAT! Its, o i might die if i fight him. Lets just keep going -_-

  • roadwarriorsroadwarriors Member Posts: 218
    Yeah join a pvp server one of the recomended ones and get ready to have a blast. Recomendation? Go out with ten guys and just gang quest areas all day by horde places. We did this alot aby pirate bay...
  • n00bitn00bit Member UncommonPosts: 345
    Personally i'd like to see a level based pvp server. That is, you can only attack people +/- 5-10 lvls of you. I think it make for some REAL pvp on the way leveling up. Mind you, I've always played on PvP servers cuz I friggin' love ganking (full epic 70 Hunter ftw ^^), but I would really enjoy leveling on a server that encourages equal level pvp.
  • KaylessKayless Member UncommonPosts: 365
    Originally posted by n00bit

    Personally i'd like to see a level based pvp server. That is, you can only attack people +/- 5-10 lvls of you.
    To be honest, unless I'm really having a bad day, I only actively fight characters within 5 lvls of myself if I have the choice...
  • L12aRd_K1n6L12aRd_K1n6 Member Posts: 33
    PvP in this game is carebareish and stupid. You can't even loot your victims corpses.
  • RadiationStormRadiationStorm Member Posts: 120
    Wouldn't really do you any good though, because items are mostly bound. PvP in WoW is more about griefing really.
  • ShozanShozan Member Posts: 4

    I found it easier to level my rogue on a PVP server than any other character class. The biggest advantage was being able to vanish and run when too many hordes showed up. This trick did not work as good with my druid, because you cannot vanish -- but druids are pretty good at getting away anyway. With my warrior though, the only chance you have is to either stand still and be ganked, or stand there fighting back and be ganked.

    You will find it a lot easier to level on a PVP server if you always have someone else with you. Many people who would otherwise attack you, will think twice before attacking two people. This will of course not stop the 70's from ganking you at lvl 30, but it will keep some of the gankers away.

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