I guess Im fortunate. So far I havent felt the feelings of boredom so many people habe in this game.
Perhaps its the way I play though. I belong to a small Commune in Straddle. We are hunters, farmers and people about all else.
On occasion we will raid the woods for materials to ply our trade and target specific enemies for our greater good but the social lives we have are the key to our happiness. Nine times out of ten I just stay in the fields playing a lute for my friends. I get a pretty silver now and then for the help hauling crops.
People just need to slow down. Live there game life and Chilllllll When and IF you ever find a real enemy though GO GONZOOOO!!
Originally posted by spankybus Perhaps that is why people are getting burned out on it in record time. I'm sure the casual gamer loves it, as they can maybe play an hour a day. For that kind of gamer, I expect this game is right on.
I never understood the powergamer mentality to begin with. Some may have called me "hardcore" in my WoW days (yes, I raided weekly) but I took my sweet time doing whatever the hell I felt like doing before I bothered to level cap and raid. To me anyway, casual and hardcore are both attitudes not how many hours per day/week I put in. I'm taking my time in LOTRO too just exploring the world and having fun. Wanna know why? It's a brand-new game so it stands to reason there's going to be little "end-game" content right now. If I already know there's not much content waiting for me at 50, why should I be in a hurry to get there?
As for linear... it is what you make of it. Some people simply aren't "brave" enough to take their avatars to new areas without being told to. Maybe if the NPC says to go there, they assume it is safe so then they venture out of their comfort zone. I go exploring and do whatever I want. If I encounter some trolls 10+ levels higher than me who put some serious stomp on me, well that's my fault isn't it? If I choose to look into my quest log and do one, that's my choice too. It's only linear if you don't open your eyes and look around.
The OP pretty much has the game pegged. There are a few quests that I had a blast on, but all in all it drives me nuts and I spend most of my time in Monster Play.
The kill X number of whatever is bad enough, but worse to me is:
Quest Giver: Run all the way across the map and kill X number of soldiers
I run across the map and kill X number of soldiers and go back to quest giver
Quest Giver: Run back to the same spot and destroy X number of...whatever...
I run back and destroy X number of whatever then run back to the quest giver
Quest Giver: Thanks, now run back to the spot I've sent you the last two times and kill X number of a different mob...
If I want to order a pizza, I don't have them deliver the crust, then tell them I want the sauce, then cheese and on and on...
It drives me crazy, as someone else said, a challenge and a time sink aren't the same thing, by the time I finish one region I'm so sick of it I wanna puke, it's just poor design and really makes no sense.
For all it's screwed up inbalance at least in monster play you level through PvP and not these inane quests.
It is a good looking well polished game, but honestly I'm just killing time til WAR or something better comes out. I would tell other people to give it a shot, get a buddy key or something, they may like it alot, but it's not for me - In fact I may have a buddy key somewhere, I'll dig around see if I do...
Perhaps that is why people are getting burned out on it in record time. I'm sure the casual gamer loves it, as they can maybe play an hour a day. For that kind of gamer, I expect this game is right on.
I never understood the powergamer mentality to begin with.
As for linear... it is what you make of it. Some people simply aren't "brave" enough to take their avatars to new areas without being told to.
who said anything about power gaming. There just isn't much to do, so do it fast or slow, your options are limited. So, yes, people who play fast are bored already. But if there was more to do in the first place...??
Sorry man, linear is linear. If you wanna walk into places full of MOBS 10+ levels higher then you, go nuts, there is nothing to stop you but common sense. What I mean is, wtf are you gonna do there? look around and think "look at this cool place......i mean....well look at it......it looks so cool.....everything here will kill me with a fart but.....hey it LOOKS so cool, and i can see it NOW.....and after I grind (yes, sorry questing to lvl is just another form of grinding)a few dozen levels i can actually do something here besides think how cool everything looks".
Don't pull the 'powergamer's suck, its their own fault' card because the games scope is extremely limited in its focus and diversity of gameplay.
Frank 'Spankybus' Mignone www.spankybus.com -3d Artist & Compositor -Writer -Professional Amature
I like harrisond's idea. Too many deaths and your known as 'Bilbo the weak' or 'Frodo the pansy' or 'Galdof the humiliated' or 'Faldor the spanked' wow i could do this all day...anyway that would be funny to see people stuck with those titles for a day.
Powergamers DO suck, but that's a different topic... :P
I'll go out on a limb here and speculate that most of the readers and posters on this site's forums have been around for awhile. At least long enough to have known "hey, Turbine is making a LOTR MMO, I'll go check into it." Considering Turbine always said what the scope of LOTRO was going to be, why does everyone bash it for what it isn't? Is it perfect? No, but what is? Is it some hardcore "let's out-Vanguard Vanguard and steal its players?" Hardly. Does it have crazy monstrosities jam-packed into the terrain every 10 feet like WoW? No, they're limited by the IP somewhat (and perhaps as they continue development they'll replace mob types as they create new ones? Who knows.) and personally I find it a more satisfying experience that even in the "dangerous" zones there are plenty of more open areas; I don't constantly have mobs on my screen.
Turbine always said LOTRO would be a pretty traditional PvE fantasy MMORPG, not taking any huge risks, not pushing the genre to the next level. That's what they delivered. I'm ok with that -- if I want other aspects that LOTRO doesn't have, I'll look at games that always said they'd have it, and see if they manage to deliver.
Originally posted by nemo38 I like harrisond's idea. Too many deaths and your known as 'Bilbo the weak' or 'Frodo the pansy' or 'Galdof the humiliated' or 'Faldor the spanked' wow i could do this all day...anyway that would be funny to see people stuck with those titles for a day.
Ha! That'd be great, or even if certain NPCs poked fun of you as you ran by...
I killed some boars. Then I killed some bears. And then I killed some boars again. And then I killed some wargs. And then I needed to kill some boars again. And then I killed some orcs! And then I killed some wargs. And more wargs. And more wargs, oops wrong wargs. And then I killed some spiders! *whew* And look, more boars! And now I'm level 40.
Although there are some features in LOTRO I really like, the story epic sequences and landscapes.. the game doesn't thrill me.
I need to feel danger. I need to feel like if I die, I'm really screwed. I need to depend on my group as my life is in their hands, and their life is in mine.
I need to be in Guk again.
Easy now..
Carry on like this and you will have the fast food easy mode 8 year old casual gamer police on to you... These guys are there to make your gaming experience better, all you have to do is let them, ok? OK?
Suggesting anything even remotely like this can get you 2-3 and put on the 'Hardcore Player' register!
Dirty words indeed.
(I agree 100% btw. The state of modern dumb as a mule MMO gaming is a real sadness to me. This hobby should and could have been so much more)
I just don't see how time sinks equal danger and risk. If those are the feelings you're looking to experience, you won't find them sitting behind your keyboard no matter how many corpse runs you go on or how much gear you have to replace.
Maybe give skydiving a shot? Or kickboxing? Or paintball? I'm not saying there's anything wrong with having an attachment to last decade's game mechanics. But last time I checked, those titles are still out there for the nostalgic minority who prefer the past to what the industry offers us now, good or bad.
Hell, I can never resist dropping some quarters when I'm in a bar that still has one of those tabletop Ms. Pac Man/Galaga games. I feel your pain.
I am not advocating a game mechanic though tbh.
I am advocating what made these games such special things in the first place...
The People. Social networks. Co-operative challenge. Reputation. A shared experience.
If people don't know what I mean by this, and how a game based around easy mode ('follow the map to mob, kill mob, follow arrow to quest giver') solo play, interfers with it, then I am not gonna convince them ona forum I guess.
Do I agree with pointless time sinks? No, of course not. Do I agree with legitimate time sinks that achieve a specific result? Yep, I sure do. This may not be fashionable thinking, but fashionable thinking is often stupid thinking in my experience.
Do I agree with a meaningful death penality? Hell yeah... Without fearing to fail, there is no joy in succeeding. Everything becomes porridgy and grey. To love to suceed means to me that I must hate to fail... If people like games that are so easy that they just suceed again and again, with no chance of failing, or that failing just dosent matter, then thats fine. I just won't be playing them.
I killed some boars. Then I killed some bears. And then I killed some boars again. And then I killed some wargs. And then I needed to kill some boars again. And then I killed some orcs! And then I killed some wargs. And more wargs. And more wargs, oops wrong wargs. And then I killed some spiders! *whew* And look, more boars! And now I'm level 40.
Although there are some features in LOTRO I really like, the story epic sequences and landscapes.. the game doesn't thrill me.
I need to feel danger. I need to feel like if I die, I'm really screwed. I need to depend on my group as my life is in their hands, and their life is in mine.
I would be happy with a few non instanced dungeons to crawl and quest through, the risk of dying and starting over from the beginning would be enough to be wary of bad pulls and crazy adds. Instancing is great for epic quests but for kill quests there should be some non instanced that you can pick away at solo.
My learning experience here is that MMO is too broad a category for these kind of games, and I shouldn't expect the level of depth that I found in UO and EQ just because it is labelled a MMO.
Just not sure what all of the negativity against the repetitive killing is coming from, thats how I always remember it and for a lot of players there is nothing wrong with it.
In LOTRO it goes beyond just "repetitive", it gets into mind-numbing sameness. And there IS something wrong with it.
While all games have the usual whack-a-bear quests, many also have a lot of alternatives and variations so that you at least have some variety. And there will always be some of those - the problem with LOTRO is that there is nothing else but those.
I uninstalled LOTRO within 5 hours of having it. Biggest waste of time.. I was expecting more than what it gave. I did kill a couple of cat like things...
...and its called an MMO? Why? I was the only one running around. I couldnt find a single player besides me.
Turbine always said LOTRO would be a pretty traditional PvE fantasy MMORPG, not taking any huge risks, not pushing the genre to the next level. That's what they delivered. I'm ok with that -- if I want other aspects that LOTRO doesn't have, I'll look at games that always said they'd have it, and see if they manage to deliver.
Well, I have to admit they outdid themselves on being traditional and not pushing any boundaries.
This game is too restricted by lore. That's why the books don't translate well into a game.
I agree and I disagree with this comment.
I agree a it applies to how LotRO WAS made, that being a linear quest fest.
I disagree with the notion that books don't translate well into games. I might agree that devs thus far haven't done a very good job converting IP's into good games. But if you think about the LotR world, the sheer amount of detail and informaiton Tolkien gives us, this would have been an AWESOME sandbox style game. If this would have been made in the spirit of UO, where you have TONS of skills, things to craft, gather, just tons and tons of stuff to do in a world with rules that make since to play in (thinking old-school UO).
As it is now, i feel that Turbine has sold the world of middle earth very short. It's just feels to me that the games scope is very limited by comparison to the source material. Perhaps that is why people are getting burned out on it in record time. I'm sure the casual gamer loves it, as they can maybe play an hour a day. For that kind of gamer, I expect this game is right on.
I agree wholeheartedly with Spanky. Turbine went for an easily sell and chose the safest time period in the 3rd Age: the War of the Ring era. This offered them the most player/reader/movie-goer recognition, but unfortunately they also were stuck with the most linear storyline and one that many folk know by heart. Turbine has effectively boxed themselves into a corner with their choice and made a simplistic interpretation of a complex history, relying on a generic mode of gameplay that we all have played before ad nauseum.
They could have chosen a far more interesting era within the license they hold and offered a far more sandbox mode of gaming. Take for instance the point in the 3rd Age when the WitchKing actually ruled Angmar and battled the Elves and the Northern Dunedain kingdoms of Arthedain, Cardolan and Rhudaur, which would have offered a much wider variation in gameplay, rather than relying so totally on the Forever-Following-Frodo effect. But as I implied, given Turbine's track record, their main interest was in developing a game that would not fail, and one that would appeal to the WoW demographic (before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, the emphasis on attracting the WoW crowd comes from the developers themselves -- Steefel and Anderson in particular -- I am not a Wow fan in the least).
Haven't you read the books? That was my favorite part, when they set off into the wilderness to kill thousands of boars, bears, wolves, dingoes, housecats, and lemmings to defeat Sauron. It's all so epically heroic, it gives me goosebumps!
Perhaps that is why people are getting burned out on it in record time. I'm sure the casual gamer loves it, as they can maybe play an hour a day. For that kind of gamer, I expect this game is right on.
I never understood the powergamer mentality to begin with.
As for linear... it is what you make of it. Some people simply aren't "brave" enough to take their avatars to new areas without being told to.
who said anything about power gaming. There just isn't much to do, so do it fast or slow, your options are limited. So, yes, people who play fast are bored already. But if there was more to do in the first place...??
Sorry man, linear is linear. If you wanna walk into places full of MOBS 10+ levels higher then you, go nuts, there is nothing to stop you but common sense. What I mean is, wtf are you gonna do there? look around and think "look at this cool place......i mean....well look at it......it looks so cool.....everything here will kill me with a fart but.....hey it LOOKS so cool, and i can see it NOW.....and after I grind (yes, sorry questing to lvl is just another form of grinding)a few dozen levels i can actually do something here besides think how cool everything looks".
Don't pull the 'powergamer's suck, its their own fault' card because the games scope is extremely limited in its focus and diversity of gameplay.
Just because something is called a "quest" does nto mean it is not a grind. When you get the same "quest" time after time to kill xx mobs, you might call it a quest, I would call it a grind.
You all need to quit playing MMOs....seriously...what did you think...they would somehow get away from grinding mobs for quests? (if so...then you make the games...cause your thinking is so far beyond anyone else)
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
Haven't you read the books? That was my favorite part, when they set off into the wilderness to kill thousands of boars, bears, wolves, dingoes, housecats, and lemmings to defeat Sauron. It's all so epically heroic, it gives me goosebumps!
What really turned me off from this game though is the unoriginality of the mobs: oh a boar ok, i'm a noob thats fine, oh look a crow low level mob, ok, oh a bear another noob mob.... WHOA a whight! (sp?) LVL 40 oh a boar, oh a crow, oh a bear....
After a while I got fed up with this game and headed to L2
Haven't you read the books? That was my favorite part, when they set off into the wilderness to kill thousands of boars, bears, wolves, dingoes, housecats, and lemmings to defeat Sauron. It's all so epically heroic, it gives me goosebumps!
I must have skipped that chapter. Oh man, don't you remember when Samwise was singing....
i killed two Boars in the morning
i killed two Boars at night
i killed two Boars in the afternoon
it makes me feel alright
i kill two Boars in time of peace and two in time of war
i killed two Boars before i killed two Boars
and then i killed two more
Frank 'Spankybus' Mignone www.spankybus.com -3d Artist & Compositor -Writer -Professional Amature
I uninstalled LOTRO within 5 hours of having it. Biggest waste of time.. I was expecting more than what it gave. I did kill a couple of cat like things...
...and its called an MMO? Why? I was the only one running around. I couldnt find a single player besides me.
D3D
That's funny I was just in the newbie zone and there were 47 people there. You must have spent those 5 hours in the introduction starter quest and couldn't figure out how to get out lol.
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UPDATE: Millions still eat McDonalds, drink Budweiser, and drive General Motors cars despite the well known lack of quality inherent in all 3. People's appetite for bland, uninspired stuff can't be underestimated.
UPDATE: Millions still eat McDonalds, drink Budweiser, and drive General Motors cars despite the well known lack of quality inherent in all 3. People's appetite for bland, uninspired stuff can't be underestimated.
I am stealing that quote to make a tagline signature
UPDATE: Millions still eat McDonalds, drink Budweiser, and drive General Motors cars despite the well known lack of quality inherent in all 3. People's appetite for bland, uninspired stuff can't be underestimated.
I am stealing that quote to make a tagline signature OK, deal. Just for that, I'll stop picking on EQ2.
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Perma death. It's the only solution.
When your character dies, you have to hit the quit button, and uninstall the game from your hard drive. No questions, no complaints. That's hard core.
You'd be deathly afraid of dying. Go ahead, give it a try. You'll have the experience of a lifetime!
Perhaps its the way I play though. I belong to a small Commune in Straddle. We are hunters, farmers and people about all else.
On occasion we will raid the woods for materials to ply our trade and target specific enemies for our greater good but the social lives we have are the key to our happiness. Nine times out of ten I just stay in the fields playing a lute for my friends. I get a pretty silver now and then for the help hauling crops.
People just need to slow down. Live there game life and Chilllllll
I never understood the powergamer mentality to begin with. Some may have called me "hardcore" in my WoW days (yes, I raided weekly) but I took my sweet time doing whatever the hell I felt like doing before I bothered to level cap and raid. To me anyway, casual and hardcore are both attitudes not how many hours per day/week I put in. I'm taking my time in LOTRO too just exploring the world and having fun. Wanna know why? It's a brand-new game so it stands to reason there's going to be little "end-game" content right now. If I already know there's not much content waiting for me at 50, why should I be in a hurry to get there?
As for linear... it is what you make of it. Some people simply aren't "brave" enough to take their avatars to new areas without being told to. Maybe if the NPC says to go there, they assume it is safe so then they venture out of their comfort zone. I go exploring and do whatever I want. If I encounter some trolls 10+ levels higher than me who put some serious stomp on me, well that's my fault isn't it? If I choose to look into my quest log and do one, that's my choice too. It's only linear if you don't open your eyes and look around.
The OP pretty much has the game pegged. There are a few quests that I had a blast on, but all in all it drives me nuts and I spend most of my time in Monster Play.
The kill X number of whatever is bad enough, but worse to me is:
Quest Giver: Run all the way across the map and kill X number of soldiers
I run across the map and kill X number of soldiers and go back to quest giver
Quest Giver: Run back to the same spot and destroy X number of...whatever...
I run back and destroy X number of whatever then run back to the quest giver
Quest Giver: Thanks, now run back to the spot I've sent you the last two times and kill X number of a different mob...
If I want to order a pizza, I don't have them deliver the crust, then tell them I want the sauce, then cheese and on and on...
It drives me crazy, as someone else said, a challenge and a time sink aren't the same thing, by the time I finish one region I'm so sick of it I wanna puke, it's just poor design and really makes no sense.
For all it's screwed up inbalance at least in monster play you level through PvP and not these inane quests.
It is a good looking well polished game, but honestly I'm just killing time til WAR or something better comes out. I would tell other people to give it a shot, get a buddy key or something, they may like it alot, but it's not for me - In fact I may have a buddy key somewhere, I'll dig around see if I do...
I never understood the powergamer mentality to begin with.
As for linear... it is what you make of it. Some people simply aren't "brave" enough to take their avatars to new areas without being told to.
who said anything about power gaming. There just isn't much to do, so do it fast or slow, your options are limited. So, yes, people who play fast are bored already. But if there was more to do in the first place...??Sorry man, linear is linear. If you wanna walk into places full of MOBS 10+ levels higher then you, go nuts, there is nothing to stop you but common sense. What I mean is, wtf are you gonna do there? look around and think "look at this cool place......i mean....well look at it......it looks so cool.....everything here will kill me with a fart but.....hey it LOOKS so cool, and i can see it NOW.....and after I grind (yes, sorry questing to lvl is just another form of grinding)a few dozen levels i can actually do something here besides think how cool everything looks".
Don't pull the 'powergamer's suck, its their own fault' card because the games scope is extremely limited in its focus and diversity of gameplay.
Frank 'Spankybus' Mignone
www.spankybus.com
-3d Artist & Compositor
-Writer
-Professional Amature
Powergamers DO suck, but that's a different topic... :P
I'll go out on a limb here and speculate that most of the readers and posters on this site's forums have been around for awhile. At least long enough to have known "hey, Turbine is making a LOTR MMO, I'll go check into it." Considering Turbine always said what the scope of LOTRO was going to be, why does everyone bash it for what it isn't? Is it perfect? No, but what is? Is it some hardcore "let's out-Vanguard Vanguard and steal its players?" Hardly. Does it have crazy monstrosities jam-packed into the terrain every 10 feet like WoW? No, they're limited by the IP somewhat (and perhaps as they continue development they'll replace mob types as they create new ones? Who knows.) and personally I find it a more satisfying experience that even in the "dangerous" zones there are plenty of more open areas; I don't constantly have mobs on my screen.
Turbine always said LOTRO would be a pretty traditional PvE fantasy MMORPG, not taking any huge risks, not pushing the genre to the next level. That's what they delivered. I'm ok with that -- if I want other aspects that LOTRO doesn't have, I'll look at games that always said they'd have it, and see if they manage to deliver.
Ha! That'd be great, or even if certain NPCs poked fun of you as you ran by...
Easy now..
Carry on like this and you will have the fast food easy mode 8 year old casual gamer police on to you... These guys are there to make your gaming experience better, all you have to do is let them, ok? OK?
Suggesting anything even remotely like this can get you 2-3 and put on the 'Hardcore Player' register!
Dirty words indeed.
(I agree 100% btw. The state of modern dumb as a mule MMO gaming is a real sadness to me. This hobby should and could have been so much more)
I just don't see how time sinks equal danger and risk. If those are the feelings you're looking to experience, you won't find them sitting behind your keyboard no matter how many corpse runs you go on or how much gear you have to replace.
Maybe give skydiving a shot? Or kickboxing? Or paintball? I'm not saying there's anything wrong with having an attachment to last decade's game mechanics. But last time I checked, those titles are still out there for the nostalgic minority who prefer the past to what the industry offers us now, good or bad.
Hell, I can never resist dropping some quarters when I'm in a bar that still has one of those tabletop Ms. Pac Man/Galaga games. I feel your pain.
I am not advocating a game mechanic though tbh.
I am advocating what made these games such special things in the first place...
The People. Social networks. Co-operative challenge. Reputation. A shared experience.
If people don't know what I mean by this, and how a game based around easy mode ('follow the map to mob, kill mob, follow arrow to quest giver') solo play, interfers with it, then I am not gonna convince them ona forum I guess.
Do I agree with pointless time sinks? No, of course not. Do I agree with legitimate time sinks that achieve a specific result? Yep, I sure do. This may not be fashionable thinking, but fashionable thinking is often stupid thinking in my experience.
Do I agree with a meaningful death penality? Hell yeah... Without fearing to fail, there is no joy in succeeding. Everything becomes porridgy and grey. To love to suceed means to me that I must hate to fail... If people like games that are so easy that they just suceed again and again, with no chance of failing, or that failing just dosent matter, then thats fine. I just won't be playing them.
LotR is a perfect example of this imo.
I'm tired of killing boars!!!!
My learning experience here is that MMO is too broad a category for these kind of games, and I shouldn't expect the level of depth that I found in UO and EQ just because it is labelled a MMO.
Its a tease.
In LOTRO it goes beyond just "repetitive", it gets into mind-numbing sameness. And there IS something wrong with it.
While all games have the usual whack-a-bear quests, many also have a lot of alternatives and variations so that you at least have some variety. And there will always be some of those - the problem with LOTRO is that there is nothing else but those.
...and its called an MMO? Why? I was the only one running around. I couldnt find a single player besides me.
D3D
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I agree a it applies to how LotRO WAS made, that being a linear quest fest.
I disagree with the notion that books don't translate well into games. I might agree that devs thus far haven't done a very good job converting IP's into good games. But if you think about the LotR world, the sheer amount of detail and informaiton Tolkien gives us, this would have been an AWESOME sandbox style game. If this would have been made in the spirit of UO, where you have TONS of skills, things to craft, gather, just tons and tons of stuff to do in a world with rules that make since to play in (thinking old-school UO).
As it is now, i feel that Turbine has sold the world of middle earth very short. It's just feels to me that the games scope is very limited by comparison to the source material. Perhaps that is why people are getting burned out on it in record time. I'm sure the casual gamer loves it, as they can maybe play an hour a day. For that kind of gamer, I expect this game is right on.
I agree wholeheartedly with Spanky. Turbine went for an easily sell and chose the safest time period in the 3rd Age: the War of the Ring era. This offered them the most player/reader/movie-goer recognition, but unfortunately they also were stuck with the most linear storyline and one that many folk know by heart. Turbine has effectively boxed themselves into a corner with their choice and made a simplistic interpretation of a complex history, relying on a generic mode of gameplay that we all have played before ad nauseum.
They could have chosen a far more interesting era within the license they hold and offered a far more sandbox mode of gaming. Take for instance the point in the 3rd Age when the WitchKing actually ruled Angmar and battled the Elves and the Northern Dunedain kingdoms of Arthedain, Cardolan and Rhudaur, which would have offered a much wider variation in gameplay, rather than relying so totally on the Forever-Following-Frodo effect. But as I implied, given Turbine's track record, their main interest was in developing a game that would not fail, and one that would appeal to the WoW demographic (before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, the emphasis on attracting the WoW crowd comes from the developers themselves -- Steefel and Anderson in particular -- I am not a Wow fan in the least).
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I never understood the powergamer mentality to begin with.
As for linear... it is what you make of it. Some people simply aren't "brave" enough to take their avatars to new areas without being told to.
who said anything about power gaming. There just isn't much to do, so do it fast or slow, your options are limited. So, yes, people who play fast are bored already. But if there was more to do in the first place...??Sorry man, linear is linear. If you wanna walk into places full of MOBS 10+ levels higher then you, go nuts, there is nothing to stop you but common sense. What I mean is, wtf are you gonna do there? look around and think "look at this cool place......i mean....well look at it......it looks so cool.....everything here will kill me with a fart but.....hey it LOOKS so cool, and i can see it NOW.....and after I grind (yes, sorry questing to lvl is just another form of grinding)a few dozen levels i can actually do something here besides think how cool everything looks".
Don't pull the 'powergamer's suck, its their own fault' card because the games scope is extremely limited in its focus and diversity of gameplay.
Questing is grinding? Puuh-lease.
Yes it is quite often.
Just because something is called a "quest" does nto mean it is not a grind. When you get the same "quest" time after time to kill xx mobs, you might call it a quest, I would call it a grind.
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
What really turned me off from this game though is the unoriginality of the mobs: oh a boar ok, i'm a noob thats fine, oh look a crow low level mob, ok, oh a bear another noob mob.... WHOA a whight! (sp?) LVL 40 oh a boar, oh a crow, oh a bear....
After a while I got fed up with this game and headed to L2
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i killed two Boars in the morning
i killed two Boars at night
i killed two Boars in the afternoon
it makes me feel alright
i kill two Boars in time of peace and two in time of war
i killed two Boars before i killed two Boars
and then i killed two more
Frank 'Spankybus' Mignone
www.spankybus.com
-3d Artist & Compositor
-Writer
-Professional Amature
In America I have bad teeth. If I lived in England my teeth would be perfect.
Bite me, Turbine.
Bite me, Turbine.