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pirateerpirateer Member UncommonPosts: 219

Will PotBS support integrated video cards? Or will it be a snoody game that supports only Nvidia and Ati. I have had problems with my video card before because it was integrated and I was wondering what will be the case with PotBS. I seriously hope that I will be able to play PotBS without dropping $100 on a new video card. Voyage Century turned me off to it because my game kept crashing due to the incapability of the game to recognize my card. 9Dragons will not even play for me just because of my stupid video card. So, if I have to I will get a new video card just because I am so excited and hyped up about this game. Seriously, have you seen the graphics?! They are amazing. I cannot wait to play and wish the developers would stop pushing the release date back. But, I want a very smooth release too... so they can take their time, but not too much time.

 

Even if I have to buy a new video card it will allow me to play many more games. None of them, however, had such an incentive to buy one as this game does.

 

By the way, I have an SiS 760, version 6.14.0010.3800, 4/11/2007, WHQC logo'd, DDI version 9 or higher

Comments

  • WomackWomack Member Posts: 6
    I was unaware you could still play video games on integrated video cards.
  • elvenangelelvenangel Member Posts: 2,205

    You'll find very few if any games that'll properly or even at all support integrated video cards unless the integrated video card is a Nvidia or Ati brand.   Its not that their snoody its that they want their game to run at frame rates best achieved with cards that can handle shaders, plus shaders make all those nice pretty graphics possible.  Generic integrated video cards most often (or maybe none of them do) do not support shaders. 

     

    Integrated video cards = ancient / bad technology.   Atleast integrated sound cards have been getting better instead of stagnant like the integrated video cards.

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  • maveric007maveric007 Member UncommonPosts: 160
    lol@ integrated video cards ....

    They aren't meant to play games. They are for budget machines and word.
  • MarLMarL Member UncommonPosts: 606
    Potbs has a support page with system specs required "Your machine should be 1.5 ghz with 512 megs of RAM and Windows XP or Vista.  You will need a video card that has 128 megs of RAM and supports Pixel Shader 2.0."



    Now if we take your vid card and look here http://www.sis.com/products/sis760.htm  it says



    " a programmable Rendering Engine compliant to Direct3D 8.1 Pixel Shader ver1.3"



    So no it wont support it.

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  • pirateerpirateer Member UncommonPosts: 219

    Well yes, integrated cards are pretty bad technology. But, originally I bought this computer for my business, it is only supposed to run Microsoft applications and such. Since I have given up my business about a year ago, this is the only computer that I have, and I am tight on money. I could, however, save up enough for a video card but not an entirely new computer.

     

    I do have pixel shader by the way, and it is pretty good. Not as good as Nvidia or Ati but still, pretty good.

     

    Most of you here are probably little kids about 10-15 years in age who have parents tha buy anything for them. You probably have no idea what it is like to live paycheck to paycheck, and it rather sucks. Saving up might not be a bad idea and it will allow me to play many games as I said above.

  • pirateerpirateer Member UncommonPosts: 219
    Originally posted by MarL

    Potbs has a support page with system specs required "Your machine should be 1.5 ghz with 512 megs of RAM and Windows XP or Vista.  You will need a video card that has 128 megs of RAM and supports Pixel Shader 2.0."



    Now if we take your vid card and look here http://www.sis.com/products/sis760.htm  it says



    " a programmable Rendering Engine compliant to Direct3D 8.1 Pixel Shader ver1.3"



    So no it wont support it.

    Well thanks for doing that So now I know that i need to buy a new video card... *sighs* Well that sucks hard. Oh well, guess I better start saving up for about a month.

     

    Sorry for double post.

  • KeyhKeyh Member Posts: 140
    Originally posted by pirateer

    Originally posted by MarL

    Potbs has a support page with system specs required "Your machine should be 1.5 ghz with 512 megs of RAM and Windows XP or Vista.  You will need a video card that has 128 megs of RAM and supports Pixel Shader 2.0."



    Now if we take your vid card and look here http://www.sis.com/products/sis760.htm  it says



    " a programmable Rendering Engine compliant to Direct3D 8.1 Pixel Shader ver1.3"



    So no it wont support it.

    Well thanks for doing that So now I know that i need to buy a new video card... *sighs* Well that sucks hard. Oh well, guess I better start saving up for about a month.

     

    Sorry for double post.



    You should be able to get a video card that supports it for $50. They aren't THAT expensive, it's not going to run the game at the highest quality of course.
  • pirateerpirateer Member UncommonPosts: 219
    Well, I would still need to save up for about 2-3 weeks. I have other priorities such as my wife and my newborn son. They come before my needs no matter what.
  • bezadobezado Member UncommonPosts: 1,127
    First off what gives people the right to judge games based on their own flaws with their own systems?



    I here this to many times of people crying that they can't play a game because it keeps crashing and the graphics look terrible, and then complain the game sucks because the graphics look terrible on low settings. Duh! FFS your trying to play a advanced graphical game that is made for the current generations of hardware and gamers so that it can last and be appealing to people.



    Why would a development team spend millions to make a game so it will run only on integrated video?? This is insane to think that game makers should only make games for your current hardware. It is not their fault they want to spend the time making a beautiful game so it can last years and appeal to people.



    If your system can't take playing these games don't come whining to people that they suck or wish they would run on what appears to be year 2001 technology in terms of graphical processing power.



    Having a game like this go back and recode to play vaguely on a integrated video would be stupid. First of all it wouldn't be worth playing seeing how ugly the game would look and having super video lag of  1-5 fps while playing. I think if you want to play high end graphical games either save up to buy a good video card or a entirely new system.
  • bezadobezado Member UncommonPosts: 1,127
    Originally posted by pirateer


    Well yes, integrated cards are pretty bad technology. But, originally I bought this computer for my business, it is only supposed to run Microsoft applications and such. Since I have given up my business about a year ago, this is the only computer that I have, and I am tight on money. I could, however, save up enough for a video card but not an entirely new computer.
     
    I do have pixel shader by the way, and it is pretty good. Not as good as Nvidia or Ati but still, pretty good.
     
    Most of you here are probably little kids about 10-15 years in age who have parents tha buy anything for them. You probably have no idea what it is like to live paycheck to paycheck, and it rather sucks. Saving up might not be a bad idea and it will allow me to play many games as I said above.


    Well then why bother? This is like standing outside of a crackhouse knowing you have no money while being a crack addict. 



    It's the same thing for people who take lunch breaks to go to a high end car dealership, BMW, Lexus, Mercedez etc, they just look around knowing they can't purchase and waste their time. I think a better option would be to wait till you get a better system like I said. It will be very hard to even play UO with your system without lagging.
  • pirateerpirateer Member UncommonPosts: 219
    Originally posted by bezado

    First off what gives people the right to judge games based on their own flaws with their own systems?



    I here this to many times of people crying that they can't play a game because it keeps crashing and the graphics look terrible, and then complain the game sucks because the graphics look terrible on low settings. Duh! FFS your trying to play a advanced graphical game that is made for the current generations of hardware and gamers so that it can last and be appealing to people.



    Why would a development team spend millions to make a game so it will run only on integrated video?? This is insane to think that game makers should only make games for your current hardware. It is not their fault they want to spend the time making a beautiful game so it can last years and appeal to people.



    If your system can't take playing these games don't come whining to people that they suck or wish they would run on what appears to be year 2001 technology in terms of graphical processing power.



    Having a game like this go back and recode to play vaguely on a integrated video would be stupid. First of all it wouldn't be worth playing seeing how ugly the game would look and having super video lag of  1-5 fps while playing. I think if you want to play high end graphical games either save up to buy a good video card or a entirely new system.
    I never once judged the game based on the flaws of my system. Never. I don't complain about graphics either. Graphics are not what is important to me. What is important to me is the gameplay, how the system works. I never said that the development team should spend money to make it adaptable to integrated video cards. I only asked if it would support them. That's all, nothing more. I also said that I would buy a new video card, so there you have it. What gives YOU the right to judge me when you obviously have no idea what I was posting about. Read all the posts before you judge someone.
  • maveric007maveric007 Member UncommonPosts: 160
    Seems to me like you started the judging... You'd be surprised how many of us on here are dads and balance the money ourselves.







    "Most of you here are probably little kids about 10-15 years in age who have parents tha buy anything for them. You probably have no idea what it is like to live paycheck to paycheck, and it rather sucks."
  • ZAGANZAGAN Member Posts: 236
    Originally posted by bezado

    Originally posted by pirateer


    Well yes, integrated cards are pretty bad technology. But, originally I bought this computer for my business, it is only supposed to run Microsoft applications and such. Since I have given up my business about a year ago, this is the only computer that I have, and I am tight on money. I could, however, save up enough for a video card but not an entirely new computer.
     
    I do have pixel shader by the way, and it is pretty good. Not as good as Nvidia or Ati but still, pretty good.
     
    Most of you here are probably little kids about 10-15 years in age who have parents tha buy anything for them. You probably have no idea what it is like to live paycheck to paycheck, and it rather sucks. Saving up might not be a bad idea and it will allow me to play many games as I said above.


    Well then why bother? This is like standing outside of a crackhouse knowing you have no money while being a crack addict. 



    It's the same thing for people who take lunch breaks to go to a high end car dealership, BMW, Lexus, Mercedez etc, they just look around knowing they can't purchase and waste their time. I think a better option would be to wait till you get a better system like I said. It will be very hard to even play UO with your system without lagging.

    I love the Lexus myself but  just to replace one small rear right door window is 750$ Canadian, there goes one good Vid card.. (chuckles). it happins.
  • xxthecorexxxxthecorexx Member Posts: 1,078
    Originally posted by pirateer



    Most of you here are probably little kids about 10-15 years in age who have parents tha buy anything for them. You probably have no idea what it is like to live paycheck to paycheck, and it rather sucks. Saving up might not be a bad idea and it will allow me to play many games as I said above.
    that actually has to be one of the MOST ignorant posts i've seen in this flame fest of a message board.







    you roxxorz.

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  • bezadobezado Member UncommonPosts: 1,127
    Originally posted by ZAGAN

    Originally posted by bezado

    Originally posted by pirateer


    Well yes, integrated cards are pretty bad technology. But, originally I bought this computer for my business, it is only supposed to run Microsoft applications and such. Since I have given up my business about a year ago, this is the only computer that I have, and I am tight on money. I could, however, save up enough for a video card but not an entirely new computer.
     
    I do have pixel shader by the way, and it is pretty good. Not as good as Nvidia or Ati but still, pretty good.
     
    Most of you here are probably little kids about 10-15 years in age who have parents tha buy anything for them. You probably have no idea what it is like to live paycheck to paycheck, and it rather sucks. Saving up might not be a bad idea and it will allow me to play many games as I said above.


    Well then why bother? This is like standing outside of a crackhouse knowing you have no money while being a crack addict. 



    It's the same thing for people who take lunch breaks to go to a high end car dealership, BMW, Lexus, Mercedez etc, they just look around knowing they can't purchase and waste their time. I think a better option would be to wait till you get a better system like I said. It will be very hard to even play UO with your system without lagging.

    I love the Lexus myself but  just to replace one small rear right door window is 750$ Canadian, there goes one good Vid card.. (chuckles). it happins.



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  • bezadobezado Member UncommonPosts: 1,127
    Originally posted by pirateer

    Originally posted by bezado

    First off what gives people the right to judge games based on their own flaws with their own systems?



    I here this to many times of people crying that they can't play a game because it keeps crashing and the graphics look terrible, and then complain the game sucks because the graphics look terrible on low settings. Duh! FFS your trying to play a advanced graphical game that is made for the current generations of hardware and gamers so that it can last and be appealing to people.



    Why would a development team spend millions to make a game so it will run only on integrated video?? This is insane to think that game makers should only make games for your current hardware. It is not their fault they want to spend the time making a beautiful game so it can last years and appeal to people.



    If your system can't take playing these games don't come whining to people that they suck or wish they would run on what appears to be year 2001 technology in terms of graphical processing power.



    Having a game like this go back and recode to play vaguely on a integrated video would be stupid. First of all it wouldn't be worth playing seeing how ugly the game would look and having super video lag of  1-5 fps while playing. I think if you want to play high end graphical games either save up to buy a good video card or a entirely new system.
    I never once judged the game based on the flaws of my system. Never. I don't complain about graphics either. Graphics are not what is important to me. What is important to me is the gameplay, how the system works. I never said that the development team should spend money to make it adaptable to integrated video cards. I only asked if it would support them. That's all, nothing more. I also said that I would buy a new video card, so there you have it. What gives YOU the right to judge me when you obviously have no idea what I was posting about. Read all the posts before you judge someone.

    Didn't you judge us before I made my post? You did call us kids did you not.



    Anyway I was posting what I know, many of you who can't even play the current games bash them later on because you either never could play them in a higher graphical setting or complained of to much lag due to having dial up or AOL! It's all the same to me. After reading your posts I concluded what the heck are you even on a MMORPG rating site posting if you can't even play the games here listed.



    You have a onboard video thats years old, you talk about game mechanics or what the game should or shouldn't have and then post something about can it run with onboard video. To me and alot of us thats disrespectful posting, it's like doesn't this guy have any sense on what hes talking about?
  • KeyhKeyh Member Posts: 140
    Yeah, saying most people were kids was rather childish. The thing is though, as I said before, a graphics card that can run this isn't that much.



    And if you can't afford this based off of your income, perhaps it isn't the best idea to buy a game that you would have to pay $15 a month for, maybe it would be better to buy Sid Meier's Pirates!, or Pirates of the Carribean? Or even play Voyage Century Online. I don't mean to be an ass if that's what it sounds like...
  • AnnekynnAnnekynn Member Posts: 1,437


    Originally posted by maveric007
    lol@ integrated video cards ....
    They aren't meant to play games. They are for budget machines and word.


    Maveric is correct. Onboard video is meant for windows and only basic gaming. You wouldnt take a cheapo Honda Civic to a race track, so why would you run a triple A mmorpg on an onboard solution?

  • 0over00over0 Member UncommonPosts: 488

    FYI

    Just so people don't waste any money, the current minimum specs are not accurate (it is still in closed beta, after all). It requires a minimum of an nvidia 6600 (on which it apparently still doesn't look very well or play very well, but it's doable)--regardless of shader version or anything else. I know because I have a 5200fx which theoretically would play the game according to their specs. However, their technical support has informed me that it would not play at all and that a 6600 would be the minimum at this time.

    Basically, on this or any game coming out in the future, near or otherwise, don't count on playing it without a fairly recent machine. That's just how gaming and hardware is. Every 3 years you will need a new machine to play new games. And every three years basic computer design will have changed enough that you will need to change out major components in order to upgrade.

    Such is life in our technological world.

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  • MaggotscreamMaggotscream Member Posts: 284
    Originally posted by pirateer



    Most of you here are probably little kids about 10-15 years in age who have parents tha buy anything for them. You probably have no idea what it is like to live paycheck to paycheck, and it rather sucks.


    I could say the same thing about you if I were to judge it based on your posts in this thread.
  • PhosPhos Member Posts: 455

    Where are you going to get a decent video card for only $100?

    - Phos

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  • KeyhKeyh Member Posts: 140
    Originally posted by Phos


    Where are you going to get a decent video card for only $100?
    - Phos
     
    Errr....here?
  • PychiPychi Member Posts: 4
    $100 will buy you a perfectly fine mid range card. Myself i'm thinking of getting a 8600gt (ok, abit more than $100 but not that much) when pirates comes out.
  • KuriyaKuriya Member Posts: 3

    It's always a pain saving for a new card.  You should be able to get one that is perfectly capable for 60$ or less.  It would be a good idea to spend a little more if you have it but you really can get a compatible card for very little at the moment.

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