I think this was a fair review and I have been playing the game since beta last November. I enjoy it.
The only three MMO's that kept me as a subscriber for more than the free month were EQII, DAoC, and UO. WoW never lasted 3 weeks on my hard drive so the WoW comparisons really confuse me. If anything the game bears more of a resemblance in design to EQII.
It is about time! LOTRO is not a WoW clone. I agree, if anything it is much more of an EQ2 clone. WoW is hardly the only game out there to copy.
You are right...And i don't. I fault Donna for rewarding this game with a top grade. In my opinion a game have to bring some new features to the party to score so high.
Still you whinged about elves, dwarves etc. Whinging at Lord of the Rings for that is like saying Batman copied The Midnighter. It's back asswards.
The game does have new features and an attention to story detail that most of the other games in this genre lack. If they can round it out with live events that actually go off and a few of the missing features, such as housing, that are slated for the next expansion then the game will be peerless.
The monsterplay is the biggest innovation and a great way to get around the PvP/PK asshat problem. Its not just a clone.
Ok Butch you insist on missing my point. Just think that 10 years after EQ1 a game achiving topgrades need to be more than just the sum of other games (even if Tolkien was first).
After all my years of MMORPG's LotRO is still at the moment one of the best MMO games I've played. Being a Tolkien geek might be part of it but even after the beta and playing from the early settler period I'm not even nearly fed up with anything.
Turbine has done admirable job in merging the book storyline with the game, and having a real lore behind it, not the "Gee, we have Orcs and elves and stuff, this must be fantasy" bull. Of course Turbine draws from the past - AC was there about same time as was EQ and it would be silly creating everything from scratch every game you do.
The way virtues are made would have been good in UO back in the day the Origin staff realized that Mr. Koster abandoning the all existing Ultima lore was just one of the disasters the guy did for UO... The races and classes might seem lacking, but the trait system allows quite a lot of customization and difference inside one class - All in all in the games with myriad classes and races, those are just copies of each other with very little difference between them.
Monster play may not be completely original idea in MMO's, but it is a new and fresh idea in the mainstream games. Turbine is one of the few companies who have realized that PvP isn't the philosophers stone of the genre and that PvP finally only caters maybe 5% or so of the population. Monstering actually might draw even some players not interested in PvP into it, something random ganking always has failed to do. (Now waiting the legendary one time poster claiming to have been crafter/digger in UO who enjoyed it :P )
Events and expansions seem to be forthcoming at good rate, which promises a lot for the future of the game. Funnily enough one company with virtually unlimited funds took like 3 years to create trivial expansion to their MMO...
No-one could like every game, but LotRO has earned the points it got, good job with the review!
Ok Butch you insist on missing my point. Just think that 10 years after EQ1 a game achiving topgrades need to be more than just the sum of other games (even if Tolkien was first).
And so it is. Not that consolidation of previous games seems to have done WoW any harm but I feel LOTRO goes a step beyond that 'competent rehash approach'.
As to the scoring, that's a problem in aaaaaaaaalll computer game reviews, score bloat. People don't use the full range.
This game has its qualities and problems like all others but a review is just one person's perspective on the game taking into account the full spectrum of things he was able to test and experience.
The 8.5 score should be treated as a reference and not as a fully accurate evaluation of the game because only yourself can do an evaluation that is in total agreement with your own taste and experience.
Also I feel that people shouldn't call WoW clones without thinking for a minute. Many gamers only had a full MMORPG experience starting with wow but this game also borrowed most of its concepts from other sources. WoW is a clone, a sucessfull one.
Now we all know that WoW today is not revolutionary but some games are in certain areas like LotRO is in graphics (at least compared to wow).
I feel comfortable with a 8.5 score because the game is appealing based on its various aspects and the effort that was made to make players a part of the story from the beginning was a really good call.
However personally I'm not gonna spend money on a game just to entertain myself until AoC comes out.
Movie reviewers can give accurate reviews sadly game reviewers can not.
You have a ten grade scale.
A 1 is complete crap and unplayable due to bugs and poor programming.
A 2 is complete crap.
A 3 is a very poor game.
A 4 is a poor game.
A 5 is a mediocre game. (mediocre means average)
A 6 is a good game.
A 7 is a very good game.
A 8 is a excellent game.
A 9 is the game of the year. (will only be awarded to one game for each genre in the same year)
A 10 is a masterpiece (will only be awarded to a game with a 9 rating after a competition with the other games with a 9 rating that were released over the years.
In my opinion and according to my scale LotRO probably deserves a 5 or a 6.
All game reviews are always too highly rated. Movie reviewers can give accurate reviews sadly game reviewers can not. You have a ten grade scale. A 1 is complete crap and unplayable due to bugs and poor programming. A 2 is complete crap. A 3 is a very poor game. A 4 is a poor game. A 5 is a mediocre game. A 6 is a good game. A 7 is a very good game. A 8 is a excellent game. A 9 is the game of the year. (will only be awarded to one game for each genre in the same year) A 10 is a masterpiece (will only be awarded to a game with a 9 rating after a competition with the other games with a 9 rating that were released over the years. In my opinion and according to my scale LotRO probably deserves a 5 or a 6.
Even using your scale the 8.5 score stands.
My reasons being - There is plenty to do as a adventurer, lots of areas and a variety of scenery styles. You can craft. You can PvP using the MvP feature( PK'ers griefers need not apply) The game looks and runs well on a variety of machines. The art textures are good and animations are well done. The bugs are few and far in between. Turbine is providing excellent customer service. The classes are fairly well balanced and getting better with each patch. The burglar is one of the most innovative classes I have ever seen in a MMORPG, someone did a stealth class the right way at long last. The player generated music system is the first of it's kind in a MMORPG. Turbine has already shown their commitment to adding content and keeping the game fresh.
Is the game a perfect 10? - no, is it a solid 8.5? -yes
All game reviews are always too highly rated. Movie reviewers can give accurate reviews sadly game reviewers can not. You have a ten grade scale. A 1 is complete crap and unplayable due to bugs and poor programming. A 2 is complete crap. A 3 is a very poor game. A 4 is a poor game. A 5 is a mediocre game. A 6 is a good game. A 7 is a very good game. A 8 is a excellent game. A 9 is the game of the year. (will only be awarded to one game for each genre in the same year) A 10 is a masterpiece (will only be awarded to a game with a 9 rating after a competition with the other games with a 9 rating that were released over the years. In my opinion and according to my scale LotRO probably deserves a 5 or a 6.
Even using your scale the 8.5 score stands.
My reasons being - There is plenty to do as a adventurer, lots of areas and a variety of scenery styles. You can craft. You can PvP using the MvP feature( PK'ers griefers need not apply) The game looks and runs well on a variety of machines. The art textures are good and animations are well done. The bugs are few and far in between. Turbine is providing excellent customer service. The classes are fairly well balanced and getting better with each patch. The burglar is one of the most innovative classes I have ever seen in a MMORPG, someone did a stealth class the right way at long last. The player generated music system is the first of it's kind in a MMORPG. Turbine has already shown their commitment to adding content and keeping the game fresh.
Is the game a perfect 10? - no, is it a solid 8.5? -yes
It would deserve a 8 rating of excellence if they hadn't reused the old Asherons Call 2 graphics engine from 2002, this is 2007 afterall and if the actually exploreable landmass were much larger.
As it is now it deserves a 5 or a 6 according to my scale which doesn't use decimals because I unlike most game reviewers doesn't put most games between 7 and 9 even though they are just mediocre or good games.
Mediocre means average not bad or awful like some seems to think.
LOTRo is a superior version of WOW. I played WOW to level 15 before dying of boredom - few online games are as tedious and unexciting as WOW. EQII just about edges it for tedium but it does look better than WOW. Got to level 33 in LOTRo at which point I came to the same conclusion that despite superior graphics (not difficult when comparing with WOW's aweful caroonish look) the game lost its unique appeal due to the sense of grinding. I enjoyed the experience of exploring Middle-Earth while one of my elves snagged the name (not really doable because of copy writing but i got round it }:)) of Sauron's lover from the 2nd age - she helped forge the one ring oooops! I think, like a lot of gamers, I was hoping to recapture that buzz from first exploring fantasy online games but despite some good work from Turbine I have seen this all before. Great gaming for a month but am going back to Guildwars for its pvp, Dungeons and Dragons for its better combat and Project Entropia for a break from fantasy mmorpging. If LOTRo wins game of the year I won't be too unhappy but it just shows that the mmorpg industry is evolving very slowly; no doubt in part due to the stratagies of marketing I score it between 8 and 8.5 so similar to the reviewer Donna
Every player has his/her druthers. My druther is the community feeling I had in the first SWG. There was so much to do I never got bored like I have in LOTRO. The boredom comes largely, however, from having to spend so much time twiddling my thumbs while I'm looking for a pug to do the fellowship quests.
All game reviews are always too highly rated. Movie reviewers can give accurate reviews sadly game reviewers can not. You have a ten grade scale. A 1 is complete crap and unplayable due to bugs and poor programming. A 2 is complete crap. A 3 is a very poor game. A 4 is a poor game. A 5 is a mediocre game. (mediocre means average) A 6 is a good game. A 7 is a very good game. A 8 is a excellent game. A 9 is the game of the year. (will only be awarded to one game for each genre in the same year) A 10 is a masterpiece (will only be awarded to a game with a 9 rating after a competition with the other games with a 9 rating that were released over the years. In my opinion and according to my scale LotRO probably deserves a 5 or a 6.
I think on your scale this game would be a 9 because it probably will be game of the year. That being said I don't think any other games were even released this year.
Me personally I would give it a score of 7.9 because it is a very good game but I don't think its excellent it is very close though. Maybe after they add in some more things like extra areas and more places for monster pvp and housing and those things. Once that happens then I will probably give it a 9.
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It would deserve a 8 rating of excellence if they hadn't reused the old Asherons Call 2 graphics engine from 2002, this is 2007 afterall and if the actually exploreable landmass were much larger. As it is now it deserves a 5 or a 6 according to my scale which doesn't use decimals because I unlike most game reviewers doesn't put most games between 7 and 9 even though they are just mediocre or good games. Mediocre means average not bad or awful like some seems to think.
I am aware of the definition of mediocre I am also aware that I really do not care when the graphics engine was developed. All I care for is that it looks great and runs even better on my computer and the game is enjoyable to play. I am a simple person either it is fun or it is not. I think nitpicking pseudo snobs are hilarious, hell you must think you are fine wine reviewers who also crack me up. It either tastes good and is worth the money or it is not, end of story.
I think on your scale this game would be a 9 because it probably will be game of the year. That being said I don't think any other games were even released this year. Me personally I would give it a score of 7.9 because it is a very good game but I don't think its excellent it is very close though. Maybe after they add in some more things like extra areas and more places for monster pvp and housing and those things. Once that happens then I will probably give it a 9.
Sorry, but even if this game DOES get Game of the Year, it is not deserved.
Using that scale I would rate it a 6 or 6.5 at best. There is almost nothing really new or interesting that makes LOTRO stand out with the sole exception of being LOTR based. The quests are boring and repetitious, the mobs are boring (23 different names for the same pig.. gimme a break), etc.
I see nothing but the LOTR name that sets this game apart from any mmo published in the past 10 years.
It would deserve a 8 rating of excellence if they hadn't reused the old Asherons Call 2 graphics engine from 2002, this is 2007 afterall and if the actually exploreable landmass were much larger. As it is now it deserves a 5 or a 6 according to my scale which doesn't use decimals because I unlike most game reviewers doesn't put most games between 7 and 9 even though they are just mediocre or good games. Mediocre means average not bad or awful like some seems to think.
I am aware of the definition of mediocre I am also aware that I really do not care when the graphics engine was developed. All I care for is that it looks great and runs even better on my computer and the game is enjoyable to play. I am a simple person either it is fun or it is not. I think nitpicking pseudo snobs are hilarious, hell you must think you are fine wine reviewers who also crack me up. It either tastes good and is worth the money or it is not, end of story.
Games should be reviewed and compared as you compare and review different bottles of wine not as it is today with the over the top hyping and the over the top high scoring of "hot" games but I guess that's just how it works.
Over hype and over rate the latest games because tomorrow they are all forgotten, they are all like dairy products or different flavoured shewing gums, they will soon lose their appeal.
All game reviews are always too highly rated. Movie reviewers can give accurate reviews sadly game reviewers can not. You have a ten grade scale. A 1 is complete crap and unplayable due to bugs and poor programming. A 2 is complete crap. A 3 is a very poor game. A 4 is a poor game. A 5 is a mediocre game. (mediocre means average) A 6 is a good game. A 7 is a very good game. A 8 is a excellent game. A 9 is the game of the year. (will only be awarded to one game for each genre in the same year) A 10 is a masterpiece (will only be awarded to a game with a 9 rating after a competition with the other games with a 9 rating that were released over the years. In my opinion and according to my scale LotRO probably deserves a 5 or a 6.
I think on your scale this game would be a 9 because it probably will be game of the year. That being said I don't think any other games were even released this year.
Me personally I would give it a score of 7.9 because it is a very good game but I don't think its excellent it is very close though. Maybe after they add in some more things like extra areas and more places for monster pvp and housing and those things. Once that happens then I will probably give it a 9.
This year is far from over and I'm sure that Age of Conan will claim the "Game of the Year" award when it comes to MMORPG:s.
It is a good game, just like wow, but basic nether the less.
Pretty much sums it up. Good game, great that it is a review this time and I whole heartedly agree with the review. Now the WoW, hell WoW stole tons of ideas from other games so shrug. Atleast LotR:O is incredibly polished with its graphics and sound allowing others to truly get into it.
Guess we'll see how it holds up to the next gen games coming next year that everyone is clamering about.
This year is far from over and I'm sure that Age of Conan will claim the "Game of the Year" award when it comes to MMORPG:s.
Why?
Because People want it to? The problem here is that every game that has come out has been so overhyped that game makers can't satisfy players anymore and players expect too much.
People said Dark and Light was going to be the next great thing. Didn't pan out. People said that Vanguard was going to be the next great thing and there were so many issues that even if you liked the game you had to admit that more had to be done.
LOTRO was hyped and really, the best that can be said is that it is a very well crafted game (I'm personally enjoying it but let's face it, it could have gone in many other directions) and now Conana and War are being hyped as the next great thing.
I wonder if War and Conan were pushed back because the game makers realized that they were going to get crucified.
We really don't know what is going to be great it seems until it actually comes out. Heck, look at Darkfall. This game seems to cater to the hardcore pvpers but I really wonder if, when it comes out, the players won't be dissapointed.
Players need to be more realistic, stop expecting the 2nd coming and take these games as they are: games.
Quite frankly, if one were to listen to the comments on this site, the only great game to ever come out was early UO or early SWG. Every other game pales in comparison. And quite frankly I wonder if they really are being accurate in their recollections.
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This year is far from over and I'm sure that Age of Conan will claim the "Game of the Year" award when it comes to MMORPG:s.
Why do you say that? How can you be sure unless you have played it? Or are you just hoping/hyping
All games look good pre release. Last year at this time I bet a lot of Vanguard fans would have bet you a tidy sum that Vanguard would be game of the year in 2007.
Quite frankly, if one were to listen to the comments on this site, the only great game to ever come out was early UO or early SWG. Every other game pales in comparison. And quite frankly I wonder if they really are being accurate in their recollections.
I can speak for SWG because I've played it since release and kept playing it through all the changes it's gone through. I can honestly say that, at launch, SWG was six months away from being finished. The only other game I ever played that was in a worse state was Red Baron 2. So the pre-CU fanboys are looking back with rose-coloured glasses. SWG was horrible pre-CU, it was horrible pre-NGE, it got worse when NGE hit and it took 6 months after NGE for the game to start getting better. But it has got better fast and now SWG is actually very playable. The devs are making good decisions for a change, but part of me has the feeling that it's too little too late. Without a server merge soon that game's days are numbered.
Anyway, I'm rambling. The point is, anyone who says pre-CU SWG was better than LotRO is either lying or they were on some sort of drug back in 2003 when SWG shipped.
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The game does have new features and an attention to story detail that most of the other games in this genre lack. If they can round it out with live events that actually go off and a few of the missing features, such as housing, that are slated for the next expansion then the game will be peerless.
The monsterplay is the biggest innovation and a great way to get around the PvP/PK asshat problem. Its not just a clone.
Ok Butch you insist on missing my point. Just think that 10 years after EQ1 a game achiving topgrades need to be more than just the sum of other games (even if Tolkien was first).
After all my years of MMORPG's LotRO is still at the moment one of the best MMO games I've played. Being a Tolkien geek might be part of it but even after the beta and playing from the early settler period I'm not even nearly fed up with anything.
Turbine has done admirable job in merging the book storyline with the game, and having a real lore behind it, not the "Gee, we have Orcs and elves and stuff, this must be fantasy" bull. Of course Turbine draws from the past - AC was there about same time as was EQ and it would be silly creating everything from scratch every game you do.
The way virtues are made would have been good in UO back in the day the Origin staff realized that Mr. Koster abandoning the all existing Ultima lore was just one of the disasters the guy did for UO... The races and classes might seem lacking, but the trait system allows quite a lot of customization and difference inside one class - All in all in the games with myriad classes and races, those are just copies of each other with very little difference between them.
Monster play may not be completely original idea in MMO's, but it is a new and fresh idea in the mainstream games. Turbine is one of the few companies who have realized that PvP isn't the philosophers stone of the genre and that PvP finally only caters maybe 5% or so of the population. Monstering actually might draw even some players not interested in PvP into it, something random ganking always has failed to do. (Now waiting the legendary one time poster claiming to have been crafter/digger in UO who enjoyed it :P )
Events and expansions seem to be forthcoming at good rate, which promises a lot for the future of the game. Funnily enough one company with virtually unlimited funds took like 3 years to create trivial expansion to their MMO...
No-one could like every game, but LotRO has earned the points it got, good job with the review!
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As to the scoring, that's a problem in aaaaaaaaalll computer game reviews, score bloat. People don't use the full range.
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The 8.5 score should be treated as a reference and not as a fully accurate evaluation of the game because only yourself can do an evaluation that is in total agreement with your own taste and experience.
Also I feel that people shouldn't call WoW clones without thinking for a minute. Many gamers only had a full MMORPG experience starting with wow but this game also borrowed most of its concepts from other sources. WoW is a clone, a sucessfull one.
Now we all know that WoW today is not revolutionary but some games are in certain areas like LotRO is in graphics (at least compared to wow).
I feel comfortable with a 8.5 score because the game is appealing based on its various aspects and the effort that was made to make players a part of the story from the beginning was a really good call.
However personally I'm not gonna spend money on a game just to entertain myself until AoC comes out.
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All game reviews are always too highly rated.
Movie reviewers can give accurate reviews sadly game reviewers can not.
You have a ten grade scale.
A 1 is complete crap and unplayable due to bugs and poor programming.
A 2 is complete crap.
A 3 is a very poor game.
A 4 is a poor game.
A 5 is a mediocre game. (mediocre means average)
A 6 is a good game.
A 7 is a very good game.
A 8 is a excellent game.
A 9 is the game of the year. (will only be awarded to one game for each genre in the same year)
A 10 is a masterpiece (will only be awarded to a game with a 9 rating after a competition with the other games with a 9 rating that were released over the years.
In my opinion and according to my scale LotRO probably deserves a 5 or a 6.
What about giving some space to average games that do not entirely fall in the mediocre and good categories?
Abal
My reasons being - There is plenty to do as a adventurer, lots of areas and a variety of scenery styles. You can craft. You can PvP using the MvP feature( PK'ers griefers need not apply) The game looks and runs well on a variety of machines. The art textures are good and animations are well done. The bugs are few and far in between. Turbine is providing excellent customer service. The classes are fairly well balanced and getting better with each patch. The burglar is one of the most innovative classes I have ever seen in a MMORPG, someone did a stealth class the right way at long last. The player generated music system is the first of it's kind in a MMORPG. Turbine has already shown their commitment to adding content and keeping the game fresh.
Is the game a perfect 10? - no, is it a solid 8.5? -yes
I miss DAoC
What about giving some space to average games that do not entirely fall in the mediocre and good categories?
Abal
Mediocre is average.
My reasons being - There is plenty to do as a adventurer, lots of areas and a variety of scenery styles. You can craft. You can PvP using the MvP feature( PK'ers griefers need not apply) The game looks and runs well on a variety of machines. The art textures are good and animations are well done. The bugs are few and far in between. Turbine is providing excellent customer service. The classes are fairly well balanced and getting better with each patch. The burglar is one of the most innovative classes I have ever seen in a MMORPG, someone did a stealth class the right way at long last. The player generated music system is the first of it's kind in a MMORPG. Turbine has already shown their commitment to adding content and keeping the game fresh.
Is the game a perfect 10? - no, is it a solid 8.5? -yes
It would deserve a 8 rating of excellence if they hadn't reused the old Asherons Call 2 graphics engine from 2002, this is 2007 afterall and if the actually exploreable landmass were much larger.
As it is now it deserves a 5 or a 6 according to my scale which doesn't use decimals because I unlike most game reviewers doesn't put most games between 7 and 9 even though they are just mediocre or good games.
Mediocre means average not bad or awful like some seems to think.
LOTRo is a superior version of WOW. I played WOW to level 15 before dying of boredom - few online games are as tedious and unexciting as WOW. EQII just about edges it for tedium but it does look better than WOW. Got to level 33 in LOTRo at which point I came to the same conclusion that despite superior graphics (not difficult when comparing with WOW's aweful caroonish look) the game lost its unique appeal due to the sense of grinding. I enjoyed the experience of exploring Middle-Earth while one of my elves snagged the name (not really doable because of copy writing but i got round it }:)) of Sauron's lover from the 2nd age - she helped forge the one ring oooops! I think, like a lot of gamers, I was hoping to recapture that buzz from first exploring fantasy online games but despite some good work from Turbine I have seen this all before. Great gaming for a month but am going back to Guildwars for its pvp, Dungeons and Dragons for its better combat and Project Entropia for a break from fantasy mmorpging. If LOTRo wins game of the year I won't be too unhappy but it just shows that the mmorpg industry is evolving very slowly; no doubt in part due to the stratagies of marketing
I score it between 8 and 8.5 so similar to the reviewer Donna
I think on your scale this game would be a 9 because it probably will be game of the year. That being said I don't think any other games were even released this year.
Me personally I would give it a score of 7.9 because it is a very good game but I don't think its excellent it is very close though. Maybe after they add in some more things like extra areas and more places for monster pvp and housing and those things. Once that happens then I will probably give it a 9.
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I miss DAoC
Sorry, but even if this game DOES get Game of the Year, it is not deserved.
Using that scale I would rate it a 6 or 6.5 at best. There is almost nothing really new or interesting that makes LOTRO stand out with the sole exception of being LOTR based. The quests are boring and repetitious, the mobs are boring (23 different names for the same pig.. gimme a break), etc.
I see nothing but the LOTR name that sets this game apart from any mmo published in the past 10 years.
Games should be reviewed and compared as you compare and review different bottles of wine not as it is today with the over the top hyping and the over the top high scoring of "hot" games but I guess that's just how it works.
Over hype and over rate the latest games because tomorrow they are all forgotten, they are all like dairy products or different flavoured shewing gums, they will soon lose their appeal.
I think on your scale this game would be a 9 because it probably will be game of the year. That being said I don't think any other games were even released this year.
Me personally I would give it a score of 7.9 because it is a very good game but I don't think its excellent it is very close though. Maybe after they add in some more things like extra areas and more places for monster pvp and housing and those things. Once that happens then I will probably give it a 9.
This year is far from over and I'm sure that Age of Conan will claim the "Game of the Year" award when it comes to MMORPG:s.Guess we'll see how it holds up to the next gen games coming next year that everyone is clamering about.
Why?
Because People want it to? The problem here is that every game that has come out has been so overhyped that game makers can't satisfy players anymore and players expect too much.
People said Dark and Light was going to be the next great thing. Didn't pan out. People said that Vanguard was going to be the next great thing and there were so many issues that even if you liked the game you had to admit that more had to be done.
LOTRO was hyped and really, the best that can be said is that it is a very well crafted game (I'm personally enjoying it but let's face it, it could have gone in many other directions) and now Conana and War are being hyped as the next great thing.
I wonder if War and Conan were pushed back because the game makers realized that they were going to get crucified.
We really don't know what is going to be great it seems until it actually comes out. Heck, look at Darkfall. This game seems to cater to the hardcore pvpers but I really wonder if, when it comes out, the players won't be dissapointed.
Players need to be more realistic, stop expecting the 2nd coming and take these games as they are: games.
Quite frankly, if one were to listen to the comments on this site, the only great game to ever come out was early UO or early SWG. Every other game pales in comparison. And quite frankly I wonder if they really are being accurate in their recollections.
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All games look good pre release. Last year at this time I bet a lot of Vanguard fans would have bet you a tidy sum that Vanguard would be game of the year in 2007.
I miss DAoC
I play for the fun of it.
I don't agree with the review.
The game is ok but nothing great. It still has that WOW cartoony look to it in my opinion.
But if your a LOTR fan, you will like it. And there is nothing wrong with the game.
But not my cup of tea, but I would recommend it however.
I would have given it a 8.0.
Games I would recommend
LOTR
EQ2
WOW
Vanguard
DAOC
City of Heroes/Villians
Anyway, I'm rambling. The point is, anyone who says pre-CU SWG was better than LotRO is either lying or they were on some sort of drug back in 2003 when SWG shipped.