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If Xbox can run AoC ..

ImixZinzImixZinz Member CommonPosts: 553
Then whats the equivalent PC specs to Xbox 360?



Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU
  • 3 symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
  • 2 hardware threads per core; 6 hardware threads total
  • 1 VMX-128 vector unit per core; 3 total
  • 128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
  • 1 MB L2 cache
Custom ATI Graphics Processor




  • 500 MHz
  • 10 MB embedded DRAM
  • 48-way parallel floating-point dynamically-scheduled shader pipelines
  • Unified shader architecture











............. wtf is that???
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  • CeohaiCeohai Member Posts: 305
    A 360 is around the same as todays high end gaming rig.
  • ImixZinzImixZinz Member CommonPosts: 553
    Originally posted by deaddeath

    A 360 is around the same as todays high end gaming rig.
    That sounds a little off... 360 = $300  and high end gaming rig = $3000
  • lilune666lilune666 Member Posts: 129
    Not even close.
  • JakardJakard Member Posts: 415
    I would suggest that an Xbox 360 is equal to a high-end gaming rig. Lets face it... most mid-range gaming rigs have a difficult time playing a game like Oblivion. You also have to take it the fact that while Microsoft sells 360's for 300-500... they're taking a huge loss at those prices... so the real price of a 360 is much higher.
  • CeohaiCeohai Member Posts: 305
    Originally posted by Jakard

    I would suggest that an Xbox 360 is equal to a high-end gaming rig. Lets face it... most mid-range gaming rigs have a difficult time playing a game like Oblivion. You also have to take it the fact that while Microsoft sells 360's for 300-500... they're taking a huge loss at those prices... so the real price of a 360 is much higher.
    Actually I'm pretty sure M$ isn't taking that big of a loss on 360s anymore, if they're even losing money with them anymore. But ya, a 360 is comparable to most high end gaming PCs.
  • doc_claytchdoc_claytch Member Posts: 29
    rofl to anyone who thinks the 360 is even a league BELOW the top gaming rigs of today.



    <edit>  Sorry for my lack of conciseness.  i mean, the 360 doesnt compare to the top rigs of today.
  • redelf07redelf07 Member Posts: 156
    Originally posted by doc_claytch

    rofl to anyone who thinks the 360 is even a league BELOW the top gaming rigs of today.

     

    Are you saying that the 360's are more powerful than todays top gaming rigs?





    BTW- Microsoft only lost money selling the 360's for the first couple million units or something like that. Once they passed a certain amount, the were in the green.

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  • VindicothVindicoth Member Posts: 273
    The reason the xbox 360 can run games and appear to look better than PC is because they don't run at the same resolution, nor do they have the same quailty textures etc. If you look at any game on the Xbox 360 and compare it to its PC counterpart, the PC version always looks better, take Lost Planet for example.



    PC's have way more power than xbox 360s. The reason consoles get great performance is because they are dedicated to JUST that, gaming, with some little applications here and there. They don't have to run operating systems and manage drivers and system resources for different applications. They don't multi task.



    If you run any xbox 360 game and its PC counterpart on the same resolution, you're gonna get better performance on the PC but you'll be able to see the flaws better because your monitor is likely running at a higher resolution than your T.V.
  • VindicothVindicoth Member Posts: 273
    Also the xbox 360's specs pale in comparison to the computing power of todays modern hardware, it was out of date a couple of months after it was released.



    You can have up to 4 gigs of ram now days easily, quad core processors sporting 8MB of l2 cache (thats 8x the cache of the xbox 360) running at 3+ghz. We have videocards with over 768MB's of DDR3 ram using shader model 4 and directx 10. You can have two of those if you wanted.



    Sure this all comes at a high price, but..thats not even near the top end.
  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686
    The X-box 360 compares in hardware power to the top of the bill gaming boxes from 3 years ago, when you take intoo account that their OS is much better developed for gaming then Windows, it equalls a 2 year old top of the bill gaming rig. When you take intoo account  that the code for an X-box 360 game is way more optimised then the code for a windows game (they only need to make the game work on 1 type of hardware) then the performance of a 360 game equalls the performance of a windows game run on a top of the bill gaming rig.

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  • doc_claytchdoc_claytch Member Posts: 29
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    The X-box 360 compares in hardware power to the top of the bill gaming boxes from 3 years ago, when you take intoo account that their OS is much better developed for gaming then Windows, it equalls a 2 year old top of the bill gaming rig. When you take intoo account  that the code for an X-box 360 game is way more optimised then the code for a windows game (they only need to make the game work on 1 type of hardware) then the performance of a 360 game equalls the performance of a windows game run on a top of the bill gaming rig.
    Sorry but not even close. 



    Xbox 360 is crap compared to anyting top of the line today.  End of Story.
  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857
    Originally posted by deaddeath

    Originally posted by Jakard

    I would suggest that an Xbox 360 is equal to a high-end gaming rig. Lets face it... most mid-range gaming rigs have a difficult time playing a game like Oblivion. You also have to take it the fact that while Microsoft sells 360's for 300-500... they're taking a huge loss at those prices... so the real price of a 360 is much higher.
    Actually I'm pretty sure M$ isn't taking that big of a loss on 360s anymore, if they're even losing money with them anymore. But ya, a 360 is comparable to most high end gaming PCs.

    He's talking about manufacturing loss, and they still are. Fact is though, they make it all back and much more on the games.

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  • CeohaiCeohai Member Posts: 305
    Originally posted by Aelfinn

    Originally posted by deaddeath

    Originally posted by Jakard

    I would suggest that an Xbox 360 is equal to a high-end gaming rig. Lets face it... most mid-range gaming rigs have a difficult time playing a game like Oblivion. You also have to take it the fact that while Microsoft sells 360's for 300-500... they're taking a huge loss at those prices... so the real price of a 360 is much higher.
    Actually I'm pretty sure M$ isn't taking that big of a loss on 360s anymore, if they're even losing money with them anymore. But ya, a 360 is comparable to most high end gaming PCs.

    He's talking about manufacturing loss, and they still are. Fact is though, they make it all back and much more on the games. I was talking about manufacturing costs as well, and the only moderately recent news article I've seen (late 2006) estimates the cost of a premium 360 @ 323.30$.
  • none191none191 Member Posts: 261
    Seriously, Xbox 360 is great.  I think it is awesome.  I think it is so good, no I do not like or work for Microsoft, that I see it as a real competition to PC gaming.  Seriously.





    Xbox 360 Live needs a really great MMORPG; when this is released for Xbox, I will definitely get it.  I hope there are more MMORPGs for Xbox 360.  I want to try them all.
  • ImixZinzImixZinz Member CommonPosts: 553
    Originally posted by none191

    Seriously, Xbox 360 is great.  I think it is awesome.  I think it is so good, no I do not like or work for Microsoft, that I see it as a real competition to PC gaming.  Seriously.





    Xbox 360 Live needs a really great MMORPG; when this is released for Xbox, I will definitely get it.  I hope there are more MMORPGs for Xbox 360.  I want to try them all.
    Here here... if all i had to do was own an xbox in order to play all my all my games and all future games to come , id never buy another computer...which is probably why games are still developed for PC instead of just consoles... sigh maybe the next-next gen xbox 720's will lead the way for all games being available on a console instead of having to own thousands of dollars worth of computer parts to play 1 game.
  • JupstoJupsto Member UncommonPosts: 2,075

    i bought a 360 a day ago.

    oblivion is the most beautiful thing ever on it. i could not get it to run/look like that on my big tv, on a computer. i'd have to spend thousands on a huge moniter and better hardware. the only cpu's which beat xbox are like £600 (quad core) and thats just 1 part, where a WHOLE 360 is only £280.

    in time (years) pc hardware will start to beat the xbox, especially on price, and thats when i'll be buying a pc, atm its no competition unless you have thousands of spare cash.

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  • zidozido Member Posts: 60

    As it has been mentioned, Windows (nor any other common OS for PCs) isn't created for gaming. They take a huge performance hit compared to a gaming console, the OS usually having to do a lot of other tasks besides running the game as well.

    Microsoft says that you need more than 512mb memory just for Vista to run faster than XP. Even though the memory in an Xbox 360 is very fast, you'd still be unable to play a game satisfactory with it if placed in a computer, because the OS takes too much RAM to do it's non-game related tasks. No matter how fast your memory is, if it comes to thrashing your HD is the weakest link, and it'll be in constant use.

    Also, it has to be mentioned that the Xbox 360 makes so much noise you can't be in the same room if you're not constantly playing high music. Even if the technology supports viewing movies on it, the noise level doesn't.

  • FalelornfaleFalelornfale Member Posts: 53
    ok.. you can not compare a console to the PC..



    a console is locked in hardware, you dont have a true OS, its path way is different

    a PC is open hardware, you have an OS which can totally eat up resources, small things can suck up more resources.



    512mb of ram on a console is not the same as 512 ram on a PC



    and for the record of resolution.. 1080i is 1920x1080 resolution  so saying  the 360 or any high def console cant run near the resolution of a PC is total BS.



    the 360 is not that loud, if yours is there is a major issue with it. I have one and it only slightly louder then the PS3 which is quiet, I dont even hear it running when gaming or movies. I do hear my WII, I do hear my PC fan

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  • NormikeNormike Member Posts: 436
    Anyone who thinks a xbox 360 has the power of today's power gaming rig needs their head checked. Xbox 360 was barely matching top power gaming rigs on its release 2-something years ago.  Ofcourse xbox 360 is alot cheaper than buying a power gaming rig because a power gaming rig isn't just for gaming.  If you just want to play video games then you're better off getting the xbox 360.
  • EmilinEmilin Member Posts: 94
    Originally posted by Falelornfale

    ok.. you can not compare a console to the PC..



    a console is locked in hardware, you dont have a true OS, its path way is different

    a PC is open hardware, you have an OS which can totally eat up resources, small things can suck up more resources.



    512mb of ram on a console is not the same as 512 ram on a PC



    and for the record of resolution.. 1080i is 1920x1080 resolution  so saying  the 360 or any high def console cant run near the resolution of a PC is total BS.




    the 360 is not that loud, if yours is there is a major issue with it. I have one and it only slightly louder then the PS3 which is quiet, I dont even hear it running when gaming or movies. I do hear my WII, I do hear my PC fan
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  • ReklawReklaw Member UncommonPosts: 6,495

    Can't help but wonder if their will be hugh noticeble difference between the pc version the Xbox360 or if its played on the XBox360Elite? I think the Elite might come closer to its pc contrepart, where the "basic"Xbox360 is stilling missing some tech thats put in the Elite version.

    I do believe it should actualy run better on any Xbox then the pc version like many already said the tech to build a game purely for the Xbox is less complicated then making a game thats incridible complicated due to all the different soft/hardware they need to think of. But still its no insurence it will indeed run better or smooth on the Xbox360 as even their tech is still in a learning curve as just look at the first released games compared whats released lately on it.

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  • ReklawReklaw Member UncommonPosts: 6,495
    Originally posted by Fion


     
    Originally posted by Reklaw


    I do believe it should actualy run better on any Xbox then the pc version like many already said the tech to build a game purely for the Xbox is less complicated then making a game...

     

    That still doesn't change the fact that top end PC hardware is already significantly more powerful then the 360's. Indeed

    Also all 360 games are made on, you guessed it, PC's.Sorry because i'm a gamer i strongly AFCOURSE disagree, this would be so a few years back indeed but now a days some games been release early'r then the pc version, i would agree on saying the majority, but i can not agree at "all games" So really it won't matter if the xbox games are easier to build because they all use the same hardware. They are all built on the PC in the first place. Well like i said ...nope sorry 

     

  • In case it hasn't been mentioned... remember a 360 doesn't run all the behind the scenes things that a PC has to.  It's a dedicated gaming machine which allows it to do more with less compared to a computer.  And it might only run on the lowest or one of the low settings that Conan can run in, with DX9.

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