I cant picture females raiding alongside of us guys , but thats just one geeks point of veiw.
OK first of all.. how many games have you played?
SWG I was in aguild "we used Vent" there was mostly females...over half.. and it was a 300+ member guild...
EQ 2 our guild was small.. 10 members 6 girls.. 3 of which we all live in teh same city and have lunch together now and then even to this day.
RF Online .. INTENSE grind full time PVP hardcore Guys game..... Id guess about 15% are females IRL..
Now Im in WoW and I can think of at least off hand.. there is oh.. 13 girls in this guild of 315+ members...
Now What exactly Makes Raids a "boys" only thing? we will totally ignore the fact that TBC made raids uneeded. But Im curious to know! Why a girl is not capable of playing a game, and OMG...no not possible.. BUT enjoy it?
No way... really?
I hate to break it to everyone.. But gender does not dictate what a person finds fun. If you really believe that then you are allowing mental programming control you from pre 1950. I supose tomarrows discussion is wiether or not girls actually vote or if that just a rumor as well. Or wiether or not women are allowed to work outside the home. Didn't society get over the whole females are lesser thing when WW 2 all women operated Factories and Mines powered the US military ?
FFS what centry is this!!! I cant believe this a debate in 2007.... its pathetic
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I hate to break it to everyone.. But gender does not dictate what a person finds fun. If you really believe that then you are allowing mental programming control you from pre 1950. I supose tomarrows discussion is wiether or not girls actually vote or if that just a rumor as well. Or wiether or not women are allowed to work outside the home. Didn't society get over the whole females are lesser thing when WW 2 all women operated Factories and Mines powered the US military ? FFS what centry is this!!! I cant believe this a debate in 2007.... its pathetic
Hahah, yeah, Women worked in the Factories why? Because they weren't suited as proper Soldiers, and Men had to fight, so they were the only ones left to work in there
I just have to look around me in my City, ask a Girl "Do/did you play a MMO?" and I bet at least 8/10 will say: "What is a MMO?"
If I ask Guys instead, I bet at least all of them know what a MMO is. Yes, THE girls who DO play know what they're doing generally (though they seem to have this... unexplainable...behaviour they tend to have IRL in the Game as well from time to time *shudders when thinking about some raids, which were insta-wiped because of a giggling girl wanting to make a nice screenshot in front of this or that...*) and have fun, but I find that gaming is still absolutely male-dominated. (At least was the case in every game I played so far)
Not just girls play WoW, real "ladies" play it. My wife and I played regularly with 3 other married couples that were in our guild. We were all on Ventrillo, so it was easy to tell when the ladies (mature adult women) were online.
By the way, our group of friends were between 27 to 40 years old and not one of the women in our group was a giggling air head. All of them were college graduates, my wife has an advanced degree, and was a very capable team player on a raid as well as a extremely deadly and effective PvP'er.
"Don't corpse-camp that idea. Its never gonna rez" Bladezz (The Guild)
Not just girls play WoW, real "ladies" play it. My wife and I played regularly with 3 other married couples that were in our guild. We were all on Ventrillo, so it was easy to tell when the ladies (mature adult women) were online. By the way, our group of friends were between 27 to 40 years old and not one of the women in our group was a giggling air head. All of them were college graduates, my wife has an advanced degree, and was a very capable team player on a raid as well as a extremely deadly and effective PvP'er.
Well, as mentioned earlier, I played with a Mom/Daughter Combo, the Mother was...well I dunno, I think over 36 at least, since the Daughter was 18 ^_^
And both were equally devastating at times ^_^ Generally it was in "contained situations", nothing really bad happened, but some times were *ugh*...
But females playing has one nice effect: As in Navigation Systems, Female Voices are prettier to hear than male ones, and nothing beats the giggle of a cute 18-year old girl
My husband (then bf) got me into WoW over two years ago. I know five other girls in real life who like playing WoW and have talked to maybe a dozen on vent/team speak. I have made big money being the vent voice of a lonely guy friend pretending to be a girl a couple of times and letting him use pictures of me as his to email around, and it was SO funny b/c like 40 guys were in love with him/her and he like weighed 400 lbs in real life! No WoW guys are ever in love with me. Course I'm married, don't flirt and only play causally.
Btw, two of my mains are Night Elf and Tauren dudes 'cause I enjoy looking at their asses/backs, too.
From my own personal experience quite a few girls play wow but not many, its is mainly older ones that play with their husbands or boyfriends. I think there was more girls playing SWG than WoW if you compare the girl to guy ratio not based on population numbers.
What's funny about this is how the girls always get special treatmetns lol, you see idiots running around kissing their asses "wow omg shes a girl irl omg omg omg" /wet pants. Trust me hanging out with a girl irl can be more exciting than in an mmo lol.
I think thats silly, I know a coupple of girls that play wow that hate how people always bug them with retarded remarks or requests , but others love it and use the fools as tools for their entertainment or to their advantage. Kind of funny.
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ok Elgareth you claim a girl is unable to fight ? Hmm funny when a female is protecting something important to her let no man try to stand in her way (kids, career, a new dress ) women weren't in the battles in wars due to the popular beliefs of men that they are not capable ..yet it was those same women that would tear a enemy soldier to pieces if he was unlucky enough to get caught by them ....but you keep your little image ,that's fine by me
Originally posted by crystalshine women weren't in the battles in wars due to the popular beliefs of men that they are not capable
Not to be sexist, but your typical woman couldn't kill a man if her life depended on it. I have no doubt in my mind that the vast majority of women, when put in a dangerous situation, would be so frightened they would just break down on the spot. Heck, I'm sure there are quite a few men who can't handle situations such as war. Where the stereotypes stop working is in forums such as this, where women gamers (who are, by nature, FAR tougher than their more delicate counterparts) gather to read and share stories of games they play.
so sure of that are you Aethios? let me see you think that because a women plays a game that means she is tougher ? lol hate to burst your bubble but a game is a load of pixels .skill in a game isnt sex based it is ability ,to be able to work your way around a comp and use the many mod cheats (made by men ) if you so desire. and yes you are being sexist..but that is easily forgiven as for the game I have seen a young girl no more then 10 who beat rings around all the males in a particular game ,she had no use of mods only her own reflexes and she still did it I have another friend who plays nothing but pvp games she is a quiet mouse of a girl ..you could say boo to her in RL and she would run ,but in the pvp she is tops . These are only a few examples but trust me there are prob thousands more that I dont even know about
Originally posted by crystalshine so sure of that are you Aethios? let me see you think that because a women plays a game that means she is tougher ? lol hate to burst your bubble but a game is a load of pixels .skill in a game isnt sex based it is ability
Did you even read my post? I am, of course, referring to mental strength in the post above, which is easily half the fight to begin with. You can be the strongest man alive, but if you're a sissy then it doesn't do much good. Likewise, a fragile woman with a fierce temper is still pretty frightening. Would you disagree that women, in general, are physically weaker than men? I'll admit that women can be equally or more headstrong than any man, but physically stronger? That's pretty rare. I don't feel that I'm being sexist. After all, I'm not saying that a woman CAN'T be stronger, just that it's difficult to find one who is.
What's not difficult to find, though, is a woman who gets all worked up when you talk about women in general, like it's not allowed to recognize that women and men are different. We're different for a reason. Just relax, and stop taking everything so personally.
women weren't in the battles in wars due to the popular beliefs of men that they are not capable
Not to be sexist, but your typical woman couldn't kill a man if her life depended on it. I have no doubt in my mind that the vast majority of women, when put in a dangerous situation, would be so frightened they would just break down on the spot. Heck, I'm sure there are quite a few men who can't handle situations such as war. Where the stereotypes stop working is in forums such as this, where women gamers (who are, by nature, FAR tougher than their more delicate counterparts) gather to read and share stories of games they play.
Eh.
To the first poster (crystalshine) women historically were not in wars because they were deemed too valuable to waste in combat. Men were pretty much expendable as one male could impregnate multiple females to repopulate.
This occurred a good bit in the middle ages especially and to some extent all throughout history.
Historically (in pre-modern cultures even though some places are still like this) the women were spared and either taken back as wives of the solders or (rarely) impregnated and left behind.
To Aethios:
Times have changed since then in three very important ways:
One: due to the good value of modern food, women and men are becoming more comparable in body mass. (NOT in upper body strength!) This puts women and men closer to the even point in raw combat ability.
Women and men differ in their approaches to combat. Men are designed to clobber each other both psychologically and biologically.
Women on the other hand have a short-circuit where children and loved ones are concerned. Screw with a ward and they will become worse than a psychopath. They will shred, dice, poke, and generally do really bad things without blinking if that line is crossed. I've seen a 90lb woman chase a 300lb biker (who was running for his life) around with a meat cleaver. He should'a had a V8 instead of that blonde I guess.
The old adage: "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" wasn't just made up. It is 100% true.
Two: better tools. A woman can just as easily pick up a pistol and put some bullets in your bubblegoose the same as me. They just don't feel like it.
No matter how much muscle mass you think you have... 1 230 grain hollow point and 150 ft/s later and your ass has a mudhole.
Two A: males are predisposed to protect females. If <insert any incredibly gorgeous woman you like here> comes up to me and says that you've been mean to her, you have a good chance that I'll come calling. Males don't get that.
Three: Times (as you pointed out) have changed. Most people aren't acclimatized to up-close personal combat. Go visit a women's prison and have a gander at some of the bull dykes. Then come back and say they aren't scary. Chances are they can kick the ever-lasting shit out of you.
So: Yes, women are pretty much as capable as males in combat. Hand-to-hand combat between a TYPICAL male and female will probably be closer to even and the outcome will depend on circumstance (as pointed out above).
However, they are not psychologically predisposed to clobber shit. We males are. We are also expected to become worm food to protect and provide for the ladies, so don't let that go to your head. Just be thankful that we aren't still chucking spears and chasing down sabertoothed tigers with freakin rocks.
Females are generally smarter and more artistic than males as an average. Males concentrate better and are better problem-solvers. Females are lighter muscle massed and more agile (sleek). Males have more muscle mass and concentrate on strength and straight-line speed (buffed).
Females are able to accept and process multiple streams of information and males bore down on one thing, as males are designed for hunting and females for caring for multiple children while being on the lookout for predators.
Girls do play WoW indeed. I have come across girls in guilds like Ad Noctum and Praemium Callidus (Alliance, Magtheridon - EU), where theese girls in question were absolutely positively verified as girls as pr ventrilo communication and guildforum pictures, so not only do girls play WoW, they also pop up in some really good guilds. And as far as I know, there were never any questions about their performance capabilities compared to any of the guys.
On the other hand, Nihilum (Horde, Magtheridon - EU) has a no-girl policy. It is easier for a bunch of guys to focus better and more singlemindedly on the gameplay if there are no girls around. They might not want to run the risk of potential distraction seeing as they pursue new game content as hard as they do, chasing world firsts.
But each to his/her own. A mix of both sexes often makes for a good guild environment.
women weren't in the battles in wars due to the popular beliefs of men that they are not capable
Not to be sexist, but your typical woman couldn't kill a man if her life depended on it. I have no doubt in my mind that the vast majority of women, when put in a dangerous situation, would be so frightened they would just break down on the spot. Heck, I'm sure there are quite a few men who can't handle situations such as war. Where the stereotypes stop working is in forums such as this, where women gamers (who are, by nature, FAR tougher than their more delicate counterparts) gather to read and share stories of games they play.
geez you really got alot of feedback..
Actually this idea your stating is a pre-set programming in your mind and 100% false.
and actually I seen more guys "freeze" up in bad situations then any girl. that is only something you see in horror films of a girl screaming and falling down every 10 steps.
How do I say this without sounding mean... Cause I dont meen this as a insult and no sarcasum or anything. But ... do you even know any girls or women in real life?
Sorry how that sounds.. But you do know there are combat females in every brach of the USA armed services in the line of fire RIGHT now..
tell them women are weaker... I dare ya.
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WoW is a very feminine game so I wouldn't be surprised if it is female dominated . That's about the only reason why any guy would play WoW I guess so they can look pretty too with their feminine lookin gear.
When we played, my wife and I were in a guild that had at least 5 couples in it, and at least 3 women that were not afflicted with a 'gamer spouse' in the game. and yes, they all spoke on vent so i'm pretty sure they weren't Jimmy making all girly.... almost half the people we raided with were female on any given night.... course we don't play WoW anymore.... maybe things changed, but I doubt it....
FTH!
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women weren't in the battles in wars due to the popular beliefs of men that they are not capable
Not to be sexist, but your typical woman couldn't kill a man if her life depended on it. I have no doubt in my mind that the vast majority of women, when put in a dangerous situation, would be so frightened they would just break down on the spot. Heck, I'm sure there are quite a few men who can't handle situations such as war. Where the stereotypes stop working is in forums such as this, where women gamers (who are, by nature, FAR tougher than their more delicate counterparts) gather to read and share stories of games they play.
Horribly sexist and wrong. A woman can kick a man's ass.. Also, woman handle dangerous situations just as well, if not better, than any guy.
If you ever wanted to know why I barely posted in this thread, just look at the previous posts....... It's amazing that even though there are LAWS against sexism you still get assholes who think either "Women are better than men" or "Men are better than women" ..... Give it a rest for crying out loud.... Yeesh...
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Hmm maybe because us girls were not about to let you geeks know that you were actually raiding with us already
SWG I was in aguild "we used Vent" there was mostly females...over half.. and it was a 300+ member guild...
EQ 2 our guild was small.. 10 members 6 girls.. 3 of which we all live in teh same city and have lunch together now and then even to this day.
RF Online .. INTENSE grind full time PVP hardcore Guys game..... Id guess about 15% are females IRL..
Now Im in WoW and I can think of at least off hand.. there is oh.. 13 girls in this guild of 315+ members...
Now What exactly Makes Raids a "boys" only thing? we will totally ignore the fact that TBC made raids uneeded. But Im curious to know! Why a girl is not capable of playing a game, and OMG...no not possible.. BUT enjoy it?
No way... really?
I hate to break it to everyone.. But gender does not dictate what a person finds fun. If you really believe that then you are allowing mental programming control you from pre 1950. I supose tomarrows discussion is wiether or not girls actually vote or if that just a rumor as well. Or wiether or not women are allowed to work outside the home. Didn't society get over the whole females are lesser thing when WW 2 all women operated Factories and Mines powered the US military ?
FFS what centry is this!!! I cant believe this a debate in 2007.... its pathetic
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Hahah, yeah, Women worked in the Factories why? Because they weren't suited as proper Soldiers, and Men had to fight, so they were the only ones left to work in there
I just have to look around me in my City, ask a Girl "Do/did you play a MMO?" and I bet at least 8/10 will say: "What is a MMO?"
If I ask Guys instead, I bet at least all of them know what a MMO is. Yes, THE girls who DO play know what they're doing generally (though they seem to have this... unexplainable...behaviour they tend to have IRL in the Game as well from time to time *shudders when thinking about some raids, which were insta-wiped because of a giggling girl wanting to make a nice screenshot in front of this or that...*) and have fun, but I find that gaming is still absolutely male-dominated. (At least was the case in every game I played so far)
Not just girls play WoW, real "ladies" play it. My wife and I played regularly with 3 other married couples that were in our guild. We were all on Ventrillo, so it was easy to tell when the ladies (mature adult women) were online.
By the way, our group of friends were between 27 to 40 years old and not one of the women in our group was a giggling air head. All of them were college graduates, my wife has an advanced degree, and was a very capable team player on a raid as well as a extremely deadly and effective PvP'er.
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Bladezz (The Guild)
In Karazhan we usually have 3-4 females in raid.
Well, as mentioned earlier, I played with a Mom/Daughter Combo, the Mother was...well I dunno, I think over 36 at least, since the Daughter was 18 ^_^
And both were equally devastating at times ^_^ Generally it was in "contained situations", nothing really bad happened, but some times were *ugh*...
But females playing has one nice effect: As in Navigation Systems, Female Voices are prettier to hear than male ones, and nothing beats the giggle of a cute 18-year old girl
Both
My husband (then bf) got me into WoW over two years ago. I know five other girls in real life who like playing WoW and have talked to maybe a dozen on vent/team speak. I have made big money being the vent voice of a lonely guy friend pretending to be a girl a couple of times and letting him use pictures of me as his to email around, and it was SO funny b/c like 40 guys were in love with him/her and he like weighed 400 lbs in real life! No WoW guys are ever in love with me. Course I'm married, don't flirt and only play causally.
Btw, two of my mains are Night Elf and Tauren dudes 'cause I enjoy looking at their asses/backs, too.
From my own personal experience quite a few girls play wow but not many, its is mainly older ones that play with their husbands or boyfriends. I think there was more girls playing SWG than WoW if you compare the girl to guy ratio not based on population numbers.
What's funny about this is how the girls always get special treatmetns lol, you see idiots running around kissing their asses "wow omg shes a girl irl omg omg omg" /wet pants. Trust me hanging out with a girl irl can be more exciting than in an mmo lol.
I think thats silly, I know a coupple of girls that play wow that hate how people always bug them with retarded remarks or requests , but others love it and use the fools as tools for their entertainment or to their advantage. Kind of funny.
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ok Elgareth you claim a girl is unable to fight ? Hmm funny when a female is protecting something important to her let no man try to stand in her way (kids, career, a new dress ) women weren't in the battles in wars due to the popular beliefs of men that they are not capable ..yet it was those same women that would tear a enemy soldier to pieces if he was unlucky enough to get caught by them ....but you keep your little image ,that's fine by me
Not to be sexist, but your typical woman couldn't kill a man if her life depended on it. I have no doubt in my mind that the vast majority of women, when put in a dangerous situation, would be so frightened they would just break down on the spot. Heck, I'm sure there are quite a few men who can't handle situations such as war. Where the stereotypes stop working is in forums such as this, where women gamers (who are, by nature, FAR tougher than their more delicate counterparts) gather to read and share stories of games they play.
so sure of that are you Aethios? let me see you think that because a women plays a game that means she is tougher ?
lol hate to burst your bubble but a game is a load of pixels .skill in a game isnt sex based it is ability ,to be able to work your way around a comp and use the many mod cheats (made by men ) if you so desire. and yes you are being sexist..but that is easily forgiven 
as for the game I have seen a young girl no more then 10 who beat rings around all the males in a particular game ,she had no use of mods only her own reflexes and she still did it 
I have another friend who plays nothing but pvp games she is a quiet mouse of a girl ..you could say boo to her in RL and she would run ,but in the pvp she is tops . These are only a few examples but trust me there are prob thousands more that I dont even know about
Did you even read my post? I am, of course, referring to mental strength in the post above, which is easily half the fight to begin with. You can be the strongest man alive, but if you're a sissy then it doesn't do much good. Likewise, a fragile woman with a fierce temper is still pretty frightening. Would you disagree that women, in general, are physically weaker than men? I'll admit that women can be equally or more headstrong than any man, but physically stronger? That's pretty rare. I don't feel that I'm being sexist. After all, I'm not saying that a woman CAN'T be stronger, just that it's difficult to find one who is.
What's not difficult to find, though, is a woman who gets all worked up when you talk about women in general, like it's not allowed to recognize that women and men are different. We're different for a reason. Just relax, and stop taking everything so personally.
Not to be sexist, but your typical woman couldn't kill a man if her life depended on it. I have no doubt in my mind that the vast majority of women, when put in a dangerous situation, would be so frightened they would just break down on the spot. Heck, I'm sure there are quite a few men who can't handle situations such as war. Where the stereotypes stop working is in forums such as this, where women gamers (who are, by nature, FAR tougher than their more delicate counterparts) gather to read and share stories of games they play.
Eh.
To the first poster (crystalshine) women historically were not in wars because they were deemed too valuable to waste in combat. Men were pretty much expendable as one male could impregnate multiple females to repopulate.
This occurred a good bit in the middle ages especially and to some extent all throughout history.
Historically (in pre-modern cultures even though some places are still like this) the women were spared and either taken back as wives of the solders or (rarely) impregnated and left behind.
To Aethios:
Times have changed since then in three very important ways:
One: due to the good value of modern food, women and men are becoming more comparable in body mass. (NOT in upper body strength!) This puts women and men closer to the even point in raw combat ability.
Women and men differ in their approaches to combat. Men are designed to clobber each other both psychologically and biologically.
Women on the other hand have a short-circuit where children and loved ones are concerned. Screw with a ward and they will become worse than a psychopath. They will shred, dice, poke, and generally do really bad things without blinking if that line is crossed. I've seen a 90lb woman chase a 300lb biker (who was running for his life) around with a meat cleaver. He should'a had a V8 instead of that blonde I guess.
The old adage: "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" wasn't just made up. It is 100% true.
Two: better tools. A woman can just as easily pick up a pistol and put some bullets in your bubblegoose the same as me. They just don't feel like it.
No matter how much muscle mass you think you have... 1 230 grain hollow point and 150 ft/s later and your ass has a mudhole.
Two A: males are predisposed to protect females. If <insert any incredibly gorgeous woman you like here> comes up to me and says that you've been mean to her, you have a good chance that I'll come calling. Males don't get that.
Three: Times (as you pointed out) have changed. Most people aren't acclimatized to up-close personal combat. Go visit a women's prison and have a gander at some of the bull dykes. Then come back and say they aren't scary. Chances are they can kick the ever-lasting shit out of you.
So: Yes, women are pretty much as capable as males in combat. Hand-to-hand combat between a TYPICAL male and female will probably be closer to even and the outcome will depend on circumstance (as pointed out above).
However, they are not psychologically predisposed to clobber shit. We males are. We are also expected to become worm food to protect and provide for the ladies, so don't let that go to your head. Just be thankful that we aren't still chucking spears and chasing down sabertoothed tigers with freakin rocks.
Females are generally smarter and more artistic than males as an average. Males concentrate better and are better problem-solvers. Females are lighter muscle massed and more agile (sleek). Males have more muscle mass and concentrate on strength and straight-line speed (buffed).
Females are able to accept and process multiple streams of information and males bore down on one thing, as males are designed for hunting and females for caring for multiple children while being on the lookout for predators.
hehehe thank you for the history Cor4x , and there is nothing I can say further on this subjuct since you have deffinantly covered all topics
Girls do play WoW indeed. I have come across girls in guilds like Ad Noctum and Praemium Callidus (Alliance, Magtheridon - EU), where theese girls in question were absolutely positively verified as girls as pr ventrilo communication and guildforum pictures, so not only do girls play WoW, they also pop up in some really good guilds. And as far as I know, there were never any questions about their performance capabilities compared to any of the guys.
On the other hand, Nihilum (Horde, Magtheridon - EU) has a no-girl policy. It is easier for a bunch of guys to focus better and more singlemindedly on the gameplay if there are no girls around. They might not want to run the risk of potential distraction seeing as they pursue new game content as hard as they do, chasing world firsts.
But each to his/her own. A mix of both sexes often makes for a good guild environment.
Not to be sexist, but your typical woman couldn't kill a man if her life depended on it. I have no doubt in my mind that the vast majority of women, when put in a dangerous situation, would be so frightened they would just break down on the spot. Heck, I'm sure there are quite a few men who can't handle situations such as war. Where the stereotypes stop working is in forums such as this, where women gamers (who are, by nature, FAR tougher than their more delicate counterparts) gather to read and share stories of games they play.
geez you really got alot of feedback..
Actually this idea your stating is a pre-set programming in your mind and 100% false.
and actually I seen more guys "freeze" up in bad situations then any girl. that is only something you see in horror films of a girl screaming and falling down every 10 steps.
How do I say this without sounding mean... Cause I dont meen this as a insult and no sarcasum or anything. But ... do you even know any girls or women in real life?
Sorry how that sounds.. But you do know there are combat females in every brach of the USA armed services in the line of fire RIGHT now..
tell them women are weaker... I dare ya.
Miataka (+many sub variation of that)
~WoW (Kael'Thas, USA)
MiaTaka
~ RF On-line (Fire Server)
-Mia- takahashi
~SWG (Europe-chimaera)
Miataki Valeinca
~EQ 2 (everfrost)
MiaTaka Soyinka
~Second Life
there were many girls in my guild and i know it was girls since i spoke with them in teamspeak
but yes there are also alot girl pretender in the world of warcraft^^
WoW is a very feminine game so I wouldn't be surprised if it is female dominated
. That's about the only reason why any guy would play WoW I guess so they can look pretty too with their feminine lookin gear.
When we played, my wife and I were in a guild that had at least 5 couples in it, and at least 3 women that were not afflicted with a 'gamer spouse' in the game. and yes, they all spoke on vent so i'm pretty sure they weren't Jimmy making all girly.... almost half the people we raided with were female on any given night.... course we don't play WoW anymore.... maybe things changed, but I doubt it....
FTH!
back to vanguard for me.
"We aren't going to ... Period. End of statement."
ya. ok. whatever.
but what do i know, i'm only a vanbois i'm told.
I play WoW currently, and I'm a female. I also play Lord of the Rings Online. But I'm married. I can't speak for single women. My husband is the one responsible for getting me into MMORPGs back when EQ came out. Now we have two computers in the same room so that we don't fight over whose turn it is. The good thing is that if each of us are currently subscribed to two MMORPGs, then that's 4 games you have to choose from when you sit down to play.
"We don't stop playing because we grow old. We grow old because we stop playing."
Not to be sexist, but your typical woman couldn't kill a man if her life depended on it. I have no doubt in my mind that the vast majority of women, when put in a dangerous situation, would be so frightened they would just break down on the spot. Heck, I'm sure there are quite a few men who can't handle situations such as war. Where the stereotypes stop working is in forums such as this, where women gamers (who are, by nature, FAR tougher than their more delicate counterparts) gather to read and share stories of games they play.
Horribly sexist and wrong. A woman can kick a man's ass.. Also, woman handle dangerous situations just as well, if not better, than any guy.
If you ever wanted to know why I barely posted in this thread, just look at the previous posts....... It's amazing that even though there are LAWS against sexism you still get assholes who think either "Women are better than men" or "Men are better than women" ..... Give it a rest for crying out loud.... Yeesh...
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.