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Lanemeyer
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Why do people think EQ2 has better graphics than WoW? When both games are released WoW graphics will be better than EQ2. This is because of the limitations broadband will have on the draw distance for EQ2's graphics. EQ2 might seem like it has better graphics at first look, but because the dev's decided to have highly detailed models, the draw distance(viewing distance) will greatly suffer. The dev's of EQ2 did what any unexperienced 12 year old would have said to do: Just make really high polygon/detail models. Unfortunately you have to take many other things into account like that will we be playing ONLINE where we have BANDWIDTH. But the WoW dev's are experienced and know what they are doing. In WoW the models have low polygons(which allows for huge draw distance) and high texture graphics making the best looking graphics possible without sacrificing draw distance. It's all about efficiency.
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Two points I need to make.
First, draw distance is often limited by the speed of your video card and not the game engine. EQ2 and like any other next gen game should be planning ahead. While modern video cards may only be powerful enough to handle short draw distances, in a year or two once folks have NV50s and R500s, the engine will be able to scale accordingly.
As for WoWs graphics, I dont consider them better, I just consider them different. Personally I prefer WoWs graphics for the sheer fantasy value that they provide (realism in mmrpgs is so yesterday). However since the WoW engine already runs perfectly even at max settings on todays hardware, in 2-3 years it will look heavily outdated whereas EQ2's engine MAY have more room to scale with the advancing technology. Time will tell...
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This is all on your graphics card.. Not even the best GFX card was running EQ2 and the clipping plane was far as the eye could see, and incredible detailed from houses possibly a kilometre away.
And to see wether this game lags or not with peoples internet connection, well we don't know yet. I guess we will find out when beta launches.
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the board is messed up. I double posted twice as well. Anyhow, I like the WoW graphics like the other poster said. It gives a fantasy feel. This "realism" in GFX today is getting old. And as we all know, GFX dont make the game *cough*Lineage 2*cough*.
Anyhow, just look at the people still playing UO, AC, EQ etc.. The GFX on those games are pretty bad. EQ2 may have room for improvement, i'll take a fully functional engine now that will run at max detail fine on my comp then one that wont for 2 years.
Lol wow graphics are way low polygon..I could set a glass of water on their foreheads and it wouldnt fall off.
Polygons arent what makes them bad though...It's the whole feel of them.
That's all opinion though, others may like them fine.
You should note that Blizzard was not going for the best of the best graphics and Sony was.
Blizzard wanted to keep WoW in almost the same graphics engine as Warcraft III. This would make the game more consistant.
Sony wanted EQ2 to be the best game all the way around. It's suppose to have the best graphics, gameplay...everything.
Comparing the graphics are like comparing oranges to apples (I just had to use that saying).
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I have to say i think all off you have made a good point, personaly i think WoW's graphics are way better then EQ2's because when i want to play a mmorpg i want to play fantasy and what would be the point of fantasy if everything looked as realistic as possible thats where EQ2's graphics fail. But again its question of taste but its seems to me WoW's graphic got the most fans. I would also like to add that WoW could work on the graphics later in expansions and updates, whats the point in puting in such uber graphic that it cant run on full on the best available card?? Wouldent it be better to upgrade it in in due time, this way WOW could be able to build the graphics up better since they would have more time.
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WoW has a more cartoony feeling towards it, I love it much more then EQ.
EQ however has a more realistic type graphic.
It depends on the person mostly, another thing is that I know that in WoW the graphics are not even tweaked yet. They are very busy trying to complete other parts of the game, the tweaking of the graphics will most likely happen near the end of the beta. It's something that is low priority on their list.
Well, thats what I think.
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Comparing screenshots, I can't really say anything else except EQ2 as far as graphics go. Looking at the dude's arm in the 2nd pic, I'd have to say that the huge polygons in WoW kinda annoy me. This is just my opinion of course.
http://www.eq2arena.com/content/images/gallery/albums/screenshots/EQ2_92.jpg
http://www.warcraftcentral.com/gallery/screenshots/040122_ss116.jpg
If they like WoW's graphics, good for them. If they like EQ2's graphics, good for them as well.
Its like comparing apples and gerbils. Apples and Gerbils both have their good points and they arent usually the same. Some people love apples, some love gerbils, and some might even like BOTH.
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I'm sorry... Post all the screen shots you want, but WoW and EQ's graphics both have their pro's and con's.
and everytime I see EQ2's graphics I'm reminded of when 3d environments and VR simulators were first introduced. They just seem so damn stale... Sadly my vocabulary falls short when thriving to aquire a word to adequately describes the lack of 'panache' that EQ2 graphics have.
Now to see Blizzard's art style with E2's graphics... that would be something else, but the way things look in EQ2... Just looks like a stale 3d Simulator environment. I think they've taken too much away from the art in graphics and are replacing it too much with graphic engine generated talent over raw art talent.
If I was choosing a game on graphics though... It'd be Tabula Rasa however... That style reminds me a lot of Phantasy Star online. I love the techno renaissance appearance.
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LOL! owww is the beast going to be awakened from with in. (darcius thows a bucket of water over Kings head) okay I am cool now. LOL!
But anyway, if you care going to compare, please put up screanshots for both games. I will if you don't mind, but it really is a matter of opinion. ow yea, sorry for keeping to the night elf them, I am just a big fan of elves.
and one more and then eq2
Can you see these okay. If not post saying can't see. But if you can see, then you can see they are diffenet syles, yet I have not seen eq2 have emotes used or any minor human detail used in all the trailers and in game vidoes. I admit they are good grafics, these models would take me 4-7 months of work to get them anywhere near that level. However just not my style, maybe it's because I see it all the time or it's just I like anime.
umm.. itseems like the edge has been taken out of the first eq2, ow well you can always go to there web-site and see it.
also n2snooser or the guy that mad the comment about there kid likeing cartoons. I asume you don't like Transformers or thundercats or any form of animated entertainment with a die hard passion so If I see any reference in future comment about how you love them, beware, If I reaqd I will remind you of the post that was slaging them down as for only for kids. I also asume you are insulting most of japan and main parts of america for that comment as well.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
Why does everybody make such a big deal about the graphics they aren't the most important thing about a game. graphics are the cream on the cake, the finishing touch. for example elite an old space combat/ exploration game with wireframe graphics but its still said to be the best space game ever because of its good gameplay even better than freelancer or X2 who have great graphics but lack the gameplay. I hope you get wat I mean
If graphics were THAT important, Lineage 2 would be the best mmrpg ever. But since the GAMEPLAY sucks and the INTERFACE was obsurdly stupid, it dont matter how beautiful the game looks or how detailed the dark elven boobs are. There are many things more important than graphics. Gameplay, Interface, Customization, Atmosphere etc. In all these areas WoW excells beautifully.
I dont recall anyone ever quiting an mmrpg saying "well there are tons of quests, lots of customization, the atmosphere is SUPERB, the interface is absolute perfection, BUT, because characters have 500 polygons instead of 2000, I must bid you all farewell, cyas!". Instead, people quit because "all those damn dupers exploiting the game!" or "every character is exactly the same, zero customization" or "i click mouse to move, i click mouse to target, i click mouse to turn around, i click mouse to pick stuff up, my hand hurts! who designed this POS interface?".
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
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EQ2 is putting so much detail into graphics because they want this game to last years and years. 2 years from now you will still say they are good graphics. But 2 years from WoW, they will look very outdated in my oppinion. 2 years ago i would have said DAoC's graphics were great. But now they look very old. EQ2 should last a good 5 years or so.
Now that they pretty much have graphics covered for a while. Their expansions will contain more content and bug fixes, rather in the old EQ where half the expansions contained graphic updates.
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