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This may seem silly, but I see so many political candidates that are just tools of the nanny state that I wondered...........would you vote for a candidate for President ( US Players, of course ) that mentioned that they would work to place some type of controls regarding on-line gaming?
No need to add other political ideas here, please keep the topic on MMORPG's.....
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Depends on the controls.
You would basically have to vote third party to do that. I'm planning to vote for Ron Paul, and when he doesn't get the nomination I don't plan on voting in the general election.
Heh, not quite, anti gaming is a part of Hillary Clinton's platform.
As to the question, if a hypothetical candidate were to appear that I believed would be the best option for this country on the whole, but had anti MMORPG restrictions in mind, yes I would still vote for him or her. No game or games were or ever would be worth screwing with the leadership of our country. Particularly since such restrictions would be rather easy to overturn, even if they somehow actually survived the ratification process.
However, no such candidate exists.
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Someone who indicated that they would legislate this sort of thing, sounds like the sort of person who believes that nearly everything, even those things that are personal, needs to have some sort of legislation or law associated with it. So no, I wouldn't. The majority of things in this world really don't need government interference, especially federal government.
I'm only voting for Ron Paul as well (internet=win for Ron). He despises the federal government, meaning he would absolutely refuse to make the government even deal with the issue. But, if Ron Paul wasn't running, I would of course alter my decision if somebody was anti-MMORPG. While MMORPGs aren't my entire life in any way, they are my main hobby, and then the government would be infringing on my life, and it would of course piss me off. So no, I would not vote for an anti-MMO candidate.
That wasn't the question. What if said hypothetical candidate quite clearly did not fit these concerns, and was otherwise the perfect option to fit your personal political opinions, excepting the one point about gaming?
Edit: ok, come on guys, this is not a debate concerning our current lousy pile of political crap effigys we get to pick from next year. Just forget about the political candidates you know and answer the question.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
That hypothetical really wasn't the OPs question at all.
As to your question, any candidate that would regulate MMOs would need to have a reason for wanting to do so. And that reason would be steeped in nanny state idealogy. So I don't think there is a single candidate that would be perfect in every way but wanting to regulate MMOs, because anyone who wants to regulate MMOs will also want to regulate other aspects of our lives and think the state is the answer.
tenthring gets it!!
The OP never said a perfect candidate on other issues. He just said any candidate that was against online gaming.
The question goes further then just pro or anti gaming. It speaks to the ideology of the candidate. MMOs display violence and some mature content. Not nearly as bad as non-online games but they are getting there (Conan).
I personally think most if not all politicians are against any mature content in games to a certain degree so the OP question is moot. The real question is would a candidate actually DO anything once they are in office. I really don't think any of the current candidates would and unless there is a significant shift in America no future candidate would either.
There is just not enough political vitriol to be noticed by our government. In a few cases by allstar games, it did it come to the front of political issues and was quickly swallowed back up. The internet is still a new frontier and national laws just don't work. Do you really think that if any legislation were ratified that impeded a game Americans would not just get it from outside the country and play anyways? They can put on tougher restrictions for children, but they currently cannot completely control the game market and it definitely would not stand up in court.
Any candidate that sounds on these issues is just doing it to play to their constituents.
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The OP never said a perfect candidate on other issues. He just said any candidate that was against online gaming.
The question goes further then just pro or anti gaming. It speaks to the ideology of the candidate. MMOs display violence and some mature content. Not nearly as bad as non-online games but they are getting there (Conan).
I personally think most if not all politicians are against any mature content in games to a certain degree so the OP question is moot. The real question is would a candidate actually DO anything once they are in office. I really don't think any of the current candidates would and unless there is a significant shift in America no future candidate would either.
There is just not enough political vitriol to be noticed by our government. In a few cases by allstar games, it did it come to the front of political issues and was quickly swallowed back up. The internet is still a new frontier and national laws just don't work. Do you really think that if any legislation were ratified that impeded a game Americans would not just get it from outside the country and play anyways? They can put on tougher restrictions for children, but they currently cannot completely control the game market and it definitely would not stand up in court.
Any candidate that sounds on these issues is just doing it to play to their constituents.
A.) Precisely, any candidate. In other words, if you had an infinite spectrum of possible choices, all of whom have mentioned anti gaming clauses, would there be any humanly possible conditions within which you would vote for any single one of them? If there were any possible conditions under which you would vote for one of these hypothetical candidates, you would have to say yes. Now, perhaps the question could have been phrased better.
B.) having mentioned the issue is not sounding on it. It could include a fragment of a tape recorded 20 years before when the candidate was simply talking to freinds and stated his personal opinion, following which some media parasite got his hands on the tape.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
That wasn't the question. What if said hypothetical candidate quite clearly did not fit these concerns, and was otherwise the perfect option to fit your personal political opinions, excepting the one point about gaming?
Edit: ok, come on guys, this is not a debate concerning our current lousy pile of political crap effigys we get to pick from next year. Just forget about the political candidates you know and answer the question.
I don't know I can answer within your restrictions, then. If a candidate is saying that they want to regulate MMOs, but not music, television, etc. either they're fibbing or it's something personal. I can't believe anyone who would be pro this sort of thing would stop with MMORPGs. If it was for some strange personal reason, then that candidate would be just as unsuitable. Who knows what sort of trivial bee would get stuck in his bonnet next?
My fellow Americans, are you tired of sub-par MMOs pumping you for monthly fees and giving you only trumped up graphical chat rooms in return? Are you tired of grinding away at the leveling treadmill just to get to the "end game?" Have you had it up to here with Elves and Orcs? Well so have I.
If you elect me, I promise to form a federal committee to ensure the level of gaming quality for every MMO. I promise to enforce tougher penalties upon companies that charge money for the latest half-assed EQ clone. And I assure you that I will establish a subsidy for MMO developers that make games outside of the fantasy genre.
My name is Jimmy Scythe, and I endorse this message.
Heh, now those are some MMO restrictions I can get behind, too bad there's no way to get it passed, and it would be... difficult to enforce.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Mmorpgs are the bane of all democracy.
Well i mean....it depends. What do you mean? Such as they would ban MMORPGs? If thats the case then no i probably wouldnt vote for them. Though there is more to life than MMO's. If the president was like.....say....Ron Paul and he wanted to ban MMO's. I would still probably vote for him because he stands for so many other great things. I think I would rather not play MMO's or play them illegally than vote for say Bush again. Even though I know he cant run, just saying as example.
There are many things i can forgive cantidates for when they are compaigning as most will never happen once they are in office anyways. However, when i see a cantidate blaming violence, robberies, and killings on video games before they run off to advertise the bannishment or limitation on video games. Thats an instant-no in my eyes. Not just because i play games all the time and love them dearly, but also because that tells me they are blind to the world's problems and are only after an escape goat.
I see alot of political powers in the world who place blame on video games, germany for instance.. and then begin to ban those video games from the market, exclaiming they will fix their country's problems... a year or so down the road and the problems still exist. Without the video games. Its all placement of blame and today, the biggest trend to blame.. is video games. Before video games it was; Rock and roll, violent movies, literature, and peer pressure. What do i say the real issue is? Well its definantly not video games... not up front anyways. Its the parents, then the video games.
When the Parents ignore their kids and substitute video games for their time.. then video games become a problem. Then kids begin to get ideas of what those video games are teaching them. Children learn from their mentors, and if a responsible parent isn't there to stand in as a parental, then that child will find something else to stand in that place... and as video games are a very popular scene in today's culture.. take a guess as to what will be put in place of the parent?
Thats my reasoning, i don't want a political figure who will use an escape goat at every turn and then use that escape goat to gain my vote. Nope, not going to work with me. Maybe other people.. but not me. Unfortunately there are no politicians truthful enough for my expectations... but i can at least try to get the most truthful. =( and someone who's in on the bandwagon against video games (and MMOs) won't be on my vote list.
So..... No.
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America is the land of freedom (ok not so much but) and I dont think they will do anything, you can sit infront of your tv all day and there isnt any restriction to that I dont see why there would be one for MMOs. Mabye in China but I dont think it will happen in the US, simply the govt wouldnt give a shit they got alot more problems to worry about than MMOs like innocent people dying over seas and Paris Hilton being a celebrity.
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Short answer, hell no.
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